Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: I'm not understanding the hate on Allen, we can't expect him to cover the deficiencies on defense. Allen did his job and then some, I have no issue with him. Biggest issue I have was Poyer being wrapped up on Henry's long TD run Eh, that's one play. But this is now two games where the D did not manage a single stop in the 2nd half of a game. It concerns me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Anytime we play a physical team we struggle. Pittsburgh, Tennessee. We would probably lose to Tampa, but we match up better against Arizona and Green Bay. Tampa, Pittsburgh, Tennessee are all very balanced and physical teams. I think they are all beatable, but we have to play clean football and tonight wasn’t clean enough. There are only 4 teams I worry about. Tampa KC Tennessee Pittsburgh Cleveland if fully healthy would concern me, mostly because they are fairly balanced as well. Edited October 19, 2021 by IronMaidenBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, klos63 said: So we who wanted to kick were wrong? I think both sides could make a good case...it really comes down to what wouldve happened with the coin flip in OT which is a risk I'm sure coaches try to avoid when they can. I think OT wouldve favored the titans as we weren't great in the red zone and they were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 How is anyone placing blame on Josh Allen right now? I mean really… guy is leaping over defenders and running for his life and we’re complaining because he didn’t see a guy break open for a split second on a play where 2 guys are in his face, he’s looking the opposite direction and he has to get the ball out or take a sack. Give me a ***** break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Eh, that's one play. But this is now two games where the D did not manage a single stop in the 2nd half of a game. It concerns me. Yeah but you gotta figure, that one play could have very well ended up in a stall or 3 points. Given the final score, that was a huge miss on the officials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Um, No. There were a couple of times when a defender got a hand on it causing it to wobble. I’ll have to rewatch but I remember seeing more than a few passes that just seemed like a duck tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 OT just needs to be a 10 min quarter. No first to score, just play the next quarter. I'm bummed about this lose. Now let's go rip off 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 we played bad enough for them to win. McD mentioned shedding blocks…. Edmunds!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: Allen didn't miss a "bunch" of wide open WR's tonight. Maybe 2 or 3 at most. EVERY QB misses a couple of wide open receivers almost every game. No QB who completes 74.4% of his passes for 353 yds missed "a bunch" of wide open WR 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: Allen didn't miss a "bunch" of wide open WR's tonight. Maybe 2 or 3 at most. EVERY QB misses a couple of wide open receivers almost every game. And our offense was stalled because we have an average O line and mediocre RB's. Allen & the WR's hide a lot of deficiencies in the offense. He missed Sanders, Beasley, and I think Knox for TD's. Those are HUGE misses that he does not normally make. I agree the O line is average (that might be charitable). The playcalling on offense was abysimal. We looked like KC last week. Throwing long or running. We could have abused their backup CB's by making them cover Diggs, Sanders and Beas all night, instead, we got some random play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: It’s felt like Allen was struggling tonite, his passes tonite were very wobbly. I don’t know if it was Monday nite football pressure or just a bad game but the ball did not spin out of his hand tonight like it usually does. I thought Allen played a great game. He was the reason we had a chance to win. He carried the offense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 alot of other QBs would have been sacked multiple times tonight this o line fortunate they have JA for their QB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: No QB who completes 74.4% of his passes for 353 yds missed "a bunch" of wide open WR missed, in, didn't see, didn't throw the ball, or threw to a guy who was covered when a guy was open elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said: How is anyone placing blame on Josh Allen right now? I mean really… guy is leaping over defenders and running for his life and we’re complaining because he didn’t see a guy break open for a split second on a play where 2 guys are in his face, he’s looking the opposite direction and he has to get the ball out or take a sack. Give me a ***** break. Allen was tremendous tonight. People are getting spoiled. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's the argument I can acknowledge in favor of "going for it". But Dawkins had a false start penalty and we'd gotten stuffed on an early "and 1" play. Loved the idea to go for it. Hated the hesitation and lack of preparation in doing it that gave Tennessee enough time to prepare for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Grow up. That was exciting back and forth football! The Bills left some points out there on offense, and the defense fell victim to the Henry effect as the game remained close. But it was good, entertaining football. Don't be blinded by fandom. But this is a fan forum. This isn’t an impartial, passionless dissection of a random MNF game. When you grow up, you might understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, klos63 said: I thought Allen played a great game. He was the reason we had a chance to win. He carried the offense. that's kind of the problem here. We have no OL, and no RB that other teams fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Has anyone posted the Herm Edwards gif yet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, RyanC883 said: missed, in, didn't see, didn't throw the ball, or threw to a guy who was covered when a guy was open elsewhere. Dude give up. Blaming Allen for this is a losing cause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Not in the first half Tennessee doesn’t scare me at all they won because Josh slipped that’s all There's more to it than that. If we play them in Tennessee with how physical they are, I don't see it. We have to get them in Orchard Park with a home crowd. That's the onky way I see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, klos63 said: Allen was tremendous tonight. People are getting spoiled. ok, tremendous is a bit over the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: It’s felt like Allen was struggling tonite, his passes tonite were very wobbly. I don’t know if it was Monday nite football pressure or just a bad game but the ball did not spin out of his hand tonight like it usually does. Disagree. For the most part Allen was very good. He was under pressure way too much. He was the clear leader of the team. He made big plays and only had one int. I'll take this version of Allen every week. This loss was mostly on the D and O line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, klos63 said: I thought Allen played a great game. He was the reason we had a chance to win. He carried the offense. He played a good game but it just felt like something was off in his release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, RyanC883 said: missed, in, didn't see, didn't throw the ball, or threw to a guy who was covered when a guy was open elsewhere. You can’t just magically look and see an open guy on the opposite side of the field when you’re looking one way and have pressure in your face and have to get the ball out. Come on, man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: The running game was not there, at all. Even Josh couldn't run, except on that sack, he had the middle of the field WIDE OPEN. That whole series was just horrid. All we had to do was get a couple of first downs Agreed, I think we should have completely abandoned the run in the 4th. They had no fear of moss and motor, they played bend but don't break defense, our slow rbs wont break you. Josh just had a few bad balls deep, but the short passing where we have recievers that can break you after the catch was there all night. And diggs was smoking everyone on the deep balls. Trying to keep the play action honest was a waste of time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Even if Allen got the one yard.....we still needed 2 (or 3) to win the game with what 20 seconds left and one time out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Titans looked up for the game. Bills secondary played really well but the DLine looked useless tonight. Statistically the Bills outplayed the Titans but ultimately the score is the only number that matters. I had a feeling when the ball bounced off Poyers helmet and was caught by Julio with a toe tap that things just weren't going to be easy tonight. Edited October 19, 2021 by Seoulofstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: Dude give up. Blaming Allen for this is a losing cause. where did I blame Allen for this loss? I'll wait. Because I didn't. I simply stated that he missed (as in did not notice) wide open WR's for TD's. That's a fact. I mean, freaking Levy was getting a fetish at one point about showing replays of it for some odd reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 He played a good game, but that sack he took on 2nd and 10 with Sweeney wide open in the 3rd qtr was a huge momentum play for Tennessee. Getting 0 points when our defense couldn't stop a nose bleed really hurt. Still, he was definitely not the reason we lost. The defense has to be better. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: that's kind of the problem here. We have no OL, and no RB that other teams fear. We have a good offensive line, not a great one. How many RB's around the league do you fear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: I knew going for it was a mistake. McDs decision making on that last drive were terrible and concerning. 1. calling TO when you have the defense reeling with 45 seconds left was stupid. 2. Ofc I’m going to say not kicking the FG was dumb. I knew it was from the get-go. Not kicking the FG shows McD truly had no answer and/or did not want to adjust the defense. He sounds weak in his press conference tonight too. Very nonchalant and its very strange Was he wrong to have no confidence in the defense? Lol I think you can definitely make a case for either decision but going for it with your offense is not the 'weak' decision imo I think in his press conference he was absolutely f***** livid that joshs scramble the play before the 4th down got ruled a first down by the refs then 'changed' without an official review and didn't want to lose his mind Edited October 19, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: At least this games showed us that the Bills are not peaking yet. I want the team to peak a month before the playoff starts. It really doesn’t matter though. We have no answers for a team like Tampa. Tampa is a better version of Tennessee, minus Henry, but they are competent enough in the running game. KC is a good RB away from being to good to beat as well. The only way we win a super bowl is to get better on the line and get a RB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: Disagree. For the most part Allen was very good. He was under pressure way too much. He was the clear leader of the team. He made big plays and only had one int. I'll take this version of Allen every week. This loss was mostly on the D and O line. And his only int was because the right tackle got blown up and his arm got hit. It wasn’t a bad decision or inaccurate throw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: It’s felt like Allen was struggling tonite, his passes tonite were very wobbly. I don’t know if it was Monday nite football pressure or just a bad game but the ball did not spin out of his hand tonight like it usually does. I just don't get where this is coming from. Are you seriously claiming that the Monday Night Pressure got to Allen? He was great tonight and if you showed me his stat line and told me before the game that we would score 31 points I would have said there was a 100% chance we win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Like the 4th and 1 wasn't the game. Even if Allen picks it up we still need the end zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Allen had ONE bad drive, late in the game, where he stopped taking what the D gave him and got greedy (the bad 3-and-out). He could've climbed the pocket and run or found Sweeney to the right flat wide open when instead he drifted right into pressure and got sacked. That was old school, inexcusable Josh play. And put us behind the sticks. Otherwise he was mostly a stud. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Dude give up. Blaming Allen for this is a losing cause. It's also dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I like Levi, but he’s just not physical enough. Need a physical CB opposite Tre. Allowing AJ free releases off of line is easy pickens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: People seem to have a hard time accepting that it was the correct spot. I just replayed it on the DVR. If anything, the refs gave us a few inches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I swear if we don’t have All-Pros at every position by the end of the regular season, we might as well just forfeit once the playoffs start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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