Watching the game again this game is all on Daboll

[Dablitzkrieg]

They literally benched our toughest , most physical and best pass blocking RB and it played right into Pitts hands.  They need to PA every passing play from now on.  It always works

Edited September 13, 2021 by Dablitzkrieg

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, Process said:

Truth is, Daboll is probably the most overrated coach in the entire league. People forget how bad he was before last season. And he's failed miserably in the playoffs (McDermott no better in the playoffs games, and is plenty overrated as well).

 

The talking heads like to give the coaches all the credit for our offense last season, when in reality it was ALL Josh Allen. And it looks like we will need Josh to be superman again this year if we want to make a run. 

 

I want to disagree, but we definitely look like an offense that has one punch.  It's a knockout punch, but if you can avoid it, there's not much else we can do to hurt you. 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by SCBills

[foreboding]

Josh said it in his presser. They got too greedy, too early. There were short passes there and they did not take them.
If he starts dinking underneath for an entire drive, other stuff would open up. I think they were over-amped and wanted to be up 21-0 as soon as possible. The whole thing started swirling down the toilet after a few failed drives with the myriad of holding calls.

I suspect you will see a very different approach next week, I am not really worried. This is a classic case of believing your own press and failing to realize this is a NEW season, you do not pick up where you left off.

Edited September 13, 2021 by foreboding

[dorquemada]

53 minutes ago, davefan66 said:

...

 

Daboll must have seen something in Steelers tendencies to put that play in the game plan.  Still gotta feel the pulse of the team before you call that garbage.

 

Daboll is in love with his own cleverness.  I expect there's a reason he didnt even sniff a HC job yet.  Offensive production shouldn't depend on extraordinary play

[billsherd]

When we tried to run it first 7 times we weren't getting anywhere. 

[TH3]

1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

  If you rewatch the game(if you can stomach  it) the Steelers only rushed 4 and did very little “Blitzburgh” stuff.  
  They where begging the Bills to take the ball out of Josh’s hands and run it the Bills didn’t….that’s 4 games in row now teams are telling you we are not letting Allen beat us.
  Daboll literally seems to have no confidence in our ability to run the ball or he truely is a one trick pony pass every down and pray we make the end zone coordinator.
  The truth is this is very fixable it was one game but it is a larger problem that the league has figured out Daboll and now he must adjust we shall see if he does.  

 

all the wailing about Daboll.....well - he took the "O" to 501 points last year and an AFCCG

 

 

[buffalo2218]

31 minutes ago, Thunderstruck said:

I disagree- this was not ALL on Daboll. It was a (losing) team effort.

 

- Many questionable play calls, at both the OC and HC level

- Josh simply ignored (or never saw) many wide open receivers on the underneath routes in favor of throwing deep into double or triple coverage several times. No excuse for this.

- Levi Wallace. No explanation needed here.

- Special teams- that blocked punt is the difference in the game. No excuse for that guy coming right up the gut like that.

- I will mention the refs here. I'm not a big fan of blaming officiating but the call against Tre was very questionable in my mind and overturned a pivotal INT. The PI call on the deep ball was awful and should never have been called by the official who was nowhere near the play (it was not called by the guy right next to it)

- D-LIne... we invested a lot into these guys. They did a very good job against the run, but they did not get the pressure that we needed against Roehlisberger. He had way too much time to throw on a lot of plays. You can tell that he HATES getting hit, and I think a few good hits on him would have really changed the complexion of the game. If they can't get pressure against 2 rookies and a 2nd year player on the Steelers O-Line, what gives us reason to think they will be more successful in future games? I hope they are, but I am a little worried after this performance.

- O-Line: way too much pressure on Josh

 

I'm sure I am overlooking some other things as well, but let's not pretend this was ALL about Daboll.

How does the league allow for officials who are nowhere near the play to make calls they clearly can't see? We had this problem against the 49ers last year as well when PI was called by an official on the other side of the field a good 2 seconds after the play was over

[Meatloaf63]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Really?  Did we not make a Run into the AFCCG last year, after a non playoff year before that?  Sorry you are not making any sense here.

If you don’t think we need better offensive lineman after the last 4 games against quality defenses, this discussion isn’t going anywhere. 16 pts total after multiple drive starts inside the opponent’s 40 ridiculous. Unable to protect your qb in AFCCG unacceptable. This isn’t a one game occurrence.

And we lost to Houston the year before. Making it to a AFCCG does not mean you will make it the next year.

This team needs an improved O-line and an impact player on defense.

Edited September 13, 2021 by Meatloaf63

[fan_in_tx]

2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

To me it looked like they went into the game expecting Man coverage, and got alot of Zone.

 

the Adjustment should have been Hand the Ball off and throw short.  They got the throw short part adjusted, just never got the hand the ball off part.

 

I ALSO WANT ALL designed runs from Allen GONE and out of this offense.  If he isnt doing it organically on a pass, the ONLY time I want these Designed runs are 3rd and 4th and Short and in the endzone with a pass option to the rollout.  or like a QB Draw.  

You mention a key point here and it may be mentioned somewhere else but I didn't see a single roll out option all day.  This is where Josh was deadly historically, get away from the pass rush and allow receivers to uncover.  Everything was from the pocket

[PolishDave]

58 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Daboll did not have a good day. But the loss is primarily on the oline. Not a lot of plays that work when three rushers are free pretty much off the ball. 

 

Interesting looking at discussion forums of other teams today how many fans think their OC sucks. Panthers fans want Joe Brady fired, Packers want Hackett out, Giants want rid of Garrett, Colts fans already moaning about their new guy. 

 

I agree that the o-line was playing worse than Daboll was coaching poorly.     However, if the o-line is grossly underperforming, whose job is it to correct that?  Are you just supposed to "hope" they magically start playing better?

 

Or is it the coaches' (Daboll/McDermott) jobs to get personally involved in the situation and implement some kind of adjustment to rectify the situation.   I felt like the coaches just waited for Allen to pull some magic out of his ass.   

 

Seems like the second half showed you clearly who the better coaching staff was this Sunday.    Steelers (with rusty hobble-on-one-leg Roethlisberger) got better in an away game that they were already losing by 10 at half time.   Bills got worse even with home field advantage in a game they were already winning in a minor shutout at that point. 

 

Half time adjustments in close games are when you see who the better coaching staff is.   And it is also where coaches have a great opportunity to be a difference maker for their team.  

 

McDermott and Daboll should take ownership of that misfire on their part.   And I expect them to.

[jwhit34]

TSW goes from "Thank goodness Daboll stayed" to "Daboll's the problem" in 60 minutes of regular season football

Surprising? No. The two easiest things to blame for a loss when the offense had a bad day are (1) play calling and (2) the lack of adjustments. 

 

Now almost 24 after the game ended, let's look at both of these by looking at each drive:

 

1st drive, 3 passes, 0 runs. First down is a completion for 7 at PIT 17, then -2 to Diggs and tipped pass incomplete. FG

My take: A spectacular KO return, let's strike fast. First play is good, 2nd one didn't work out have to pass on 3rd. Play calling okay.

 

Drive 2: 10 plays, first play run, total of 3 runs, 7 passes plus 2 passes called on the penalties. Punt.

My take: This is the drive where Allen misses the deep ball to Sanders, right play, he's open, poor execution, no issue with play calls. Overcame 2 holding penalties too. 

 

Drive 3: 3 and out. Pass, Allen run, pass on flea flicker. Punt

My take: Only issue here is on 3rd and 1 at own 46 if you're going to run a trick play be willing to go for it on 4th and 1, but that's on McDermott, not Daboll.

 

Drive 4: Run on first, made 2 first downs, passes on other 2 first downs, total 2 runs and 5 passes, punt. 

My take: They got two first downs, then gained 7 on first and 10, got it to PIT 43, 2 incompletes and decide not to go for it on 4th. Could have run it but short passing game was clicking on the drive (completed first 3 passes on the drive). I would have liked to have them go for it on 4th but again that's a McDermott call. 

 

Drive 5: Lost fumble, nothing to say here.

 

Drive 6: Scored TD, all good. 

 

2nd half possessions:

 

Drive 1: 12 plays, 8 passes, 4 runs, passed on 1st down 4 times. got to PIT 35, turn over on downs.

My take: 53 yard FG on 4th & 8 is probably right on line for Bass into the wind so no problem going for it. Got 3 first downs on drive so no issue with play calls there, they got first downs. Did they adjust? Last set of downs was pass, run, pass, pass. In the moment, was anyone disturbed by the 4 plays called? Maybe going deep to Davis on 4th but I don't know if he was the primary target.

 

Drive 2: 8 plays, 5 pass, 3 run, passes on first down all 3 times, got to PIT 41, turn over on downs

My take: So the "adjustments" up until the 4th and 1 and back pass to Breida seem to work. They pick up 2 first downs and it looks like Breida is going to get the first on 3rd & 3 and Minkah makes a good play. We all hate the 4th down play.

 

Drive 3: Now behind by 3, 3 and out. Not a good series, then the blocked punt. Not much to say here. Allen got sacked, so that's poor execution.

 

Drive 4: Down 10, in pass mode but mix in the long Singletary runs. 3 passes, 5 runs, FG.

My take: PIT is playing 100% for pass so runs are available, disappointing that they get to 10 and don't get 7. They gained 67 yards on drive. 

 

Drive 5: All 9 plays passes down 10. Kick FG. Decided to kick FG on 1st down, they moved ball in garbage time. No issue with play calling.

 

So they ran 69 plays, 51 passes, 3 sacks, 25 runs. Looking at the above there may be 5 plays you can question the play calling, and I would say in the grand scheme of things probably less than that. No one calls a perfect game. Did they "adjust"? After 3 of first 5 series going 3 and out, only had one 3 and out in 2nd half. They also had 4 of 5 drives in the 2nd half where they got into PIT territory. Throw in the last drive of 1st half where they scored a TD and it's 5 of 6 and they scored on 3 of them. 

 

If you objectively look at every possession I don't think there's a lot there in terms of play calling. Execution is more of the issue. And even if there was, it's only 1 game.

 

 

 

 

 

[Malazan]

2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

  If you rewatch the game(if you can stomach  it) the Steelers only rushed 4 and did very little “Blitzburgh” stuff.  
  They where begging the Bills to take the ball out of Josh’s hands and run it the Bills didn’t….that’s 4 games in row now teams are telling you we are not letting Allen beat us.
  Daboll literally seems to have no confidence in our ability to run the ball or he truely is a one trick pony pass every down and pray we make the end zone coordinator.
  The truth is this is very fixable it was one game but it is a larger problem that the league has figured out Daboll and now he must adjust we shall see if he does.  

 

I agree that Daboll had a bad game, but it was because they WERE NOT running the offense from last season. He changed it up and it felt like he was trying to prove what a genius he is..

 

or based on statements from the offseason that he outsmarted himself. He talked a lot about how you have to change or other teams will pick up on it and stop it. That's true, but he made some critical errors in his scheme. Teams learned the Bills won't try to run and if they do, it will be largely ineffective. Like mind boggingly ineffective. So they just sit 7 guys back in coverage. 

 

The Steelers line is one of the best in the league, but Daboll should have put a lot more focus on the run game as it's the easiest way to make a team pay for sitting so many guys back in coverage. Instead, he outsmarted himself with his brilliant 5 wide formation. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

  If you rewatch the game(if you can stomach  it) the Steelers only rushed 4 and did very little “Blitzburgh” stuff.  
  They where begging the Bills to take the ball out of Josh’s hands and run it the Bills didn’t….that’s 4 games in row now teams are telling you we are not letting Allen beat us.
  Daboll literally seems to have no confidence in our ability to run the ball or he truely is a one trick pony pass every down and pray we make the end zone coordinator.
  The truth is this is very fixable it was one game but it is a larger problem that the league has figured out Daboll and now he must adjust we shall see if he does.  

This is correct, but you're not allowed to say this. 

 

Any running = bad, all passing = good. 

 

100% agree on Daboll. Two game is a row the other team has shown you that passing every play and expecting Allen to be your leading rusher too is not a template for win in every situation, every game. 

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, PolishDave said:

 

I agree that the o-line was playing worse than Daboll was coaching poorly.     However, if the o-line is grossly underperforming, whose job is it to correct that?  Are you just supposed to "hope" they magically start playing better?

 

Or is it the coaches' (Daboll/McDermott) jobs to get personally involved in the situation and implement some kind of adjustment to rectify the situation.   I felt like the coaches just waited for Allen to pull some magic out of his ass.   

 

Seems like the second half showed you clearly who the better coaching staff was this Sunday.    Steelers (with rusty hobble-on-one-leg Roethlisberger) got better in an away game that they were already losing by 10 at half time.   Bills got worse even with home field advantage in a game they were already winning in a minor shutout at that point. 

 

Half time adjustments in close games are when you see who the better coaching staff is.   And it is also where coaches have a great opportunity to be a difference maker for their team.  

 

McDermott and Daboll should take ownership of that misfire on their part.   And I expect them to.

 

Don't disagree the coaches did not do a good job yesterday on offense especially. But I am not sure there is an adjustment known to man that works when your OL are being rag dolled right off the snap. It was from the very first offensive play we had in the game. They just got bullied. There are not many adjustments for that. The Bills tried shuffling personnel and it made no difference. 

 

EDIT: If the Oline is a sh*t show all year like that then the people who ultimately must take the rap are Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane. Their decision to roll with what they had. 

Edited September 13, 2021 by GunnerBill

[RoyBatty is alive]

Such is the vagary of being a fan.

 

Bills offensively looked totally out of sync from the start, that is largely on Dabol.

 

Correct, we all hate that 4th down play, so many mistakes made, The design was all on Dabol, historically bad call.

[dave mcbride]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Don't disagree the coaches did not do a good job yesterday on offense especially. But I am not sure there is an adjustment known to man that works when your OL are being rag dolled right off the snap. It was from the very first offensive play we had in the game. They just got bullied. There are not many adjustments for that. The Bills tried shuffling personnel and it made no difference. 

I suppose the one thing they could have done is gotten in Allen's face and told him to exploit the short stuff play after play. His game yesterday consisted of playing to the Steelers' defensive strengths -- looking downfield constantly into 6-7 man coverage units while his o-line whiffed in front of him. There are answers if you have guys who can get open quickly, which the Bills have.

[LabattBlue]

7 minutes ago, jwhit34 said:

Surprising? No. The two easiest things to blame for a loss when the offense had a bad day are (1) play calling and (2) the lack of adjustments. 

 

Don't forget when the Bills lose...#3, "the refs screwed us". 

[mannc]

9 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

I agree that Daboll had a bad game, but it was because they WERE NOT running the offense from last season. He changed it up and it felt like he was trying to prove what a genius he is..

 

or based on statements from the offseason that he outsmarted himself. He talked a lot about how you have to change or other teams will pick up on it and stop it. That's true, but he made some critical errors in his scheme. Teams learned the Bills won't try to run and if they do, it will be largely ineffective. Like mind boggingly ineffective. So they just sit 7 guys back in coverage. 

 

The Steelers line is one of the best in the league, but Daboll should have put a lot more focus on the run game as it's the easiest way to make a team pay for sitting so many guys back in coverage. Instead, he outsmarted himself with his brilliant 5 wide formation. 

If I never see Josh in another empty backfield, it will be too soon...

[RoyBatty is alive]

2 minutes ago, BTB said:

Don't forget when the Bills lose...#3, "the refs screwed us". 

LOL but this time They only screwed us on the White int, that was a TERRIBLE call and had White got that I think we win.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

I agree that Daboll had a bad game, but it was because they WERE NOT running the offense from last season. He changed it up and it felt like he was trying to prove what a genius he is..

 

or based on statements from the offseason that he outsmarted himself. He talked a lot about how you have to change or other teams will pick up on it and stop it. That's true, but he made some critical errors in his scheme. Teams learned the Bills won't try to run and if they do, it will be largely ineffective. Like mind boggingly ineffective. So they just sit 7 guys back in coverage. 

 

The Steelers line is one of the best in the league, but Daboll should have put a lot more focus on the run game as it's the easiest way to make a team pay for sitting so many guys back in coverage. Instead, he outsmarted himself with his brilliant 5 wide formation. 

Singletary was given 5 carries for 18 yards in the first half. 

 

What are people expecting him to do with that little workload?

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said:

If you are using McVay as a prime example of excellent coaching...go back and watch the Rams SB against NE from 2018 and study McVay's face for that game.  Completely outcoached.  It happens.  It was ONE FREAKING GAME MAN.  Step back from the ledge.  

 

And to your point.....after that 13-3 season the Rams went 9-7 and everyone was saying "McVay has been solved, he's a one-trick pony, he can't or won't adjust"

A 18-32 loss to Green Bay last year in the Division round only furthered that narrative.

 

Now McVay thumps a Dalton-QB'd Bears team and he's a super-genius again.

 

5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

The dink and dunk ***** is a recipe for a mistake…. I don’t want to see the 15+ play drives for 6-7 yard dump offs. 

 

Yeah, it's so much better if we throw 3 straight deep incomplete passes and punt.

 

The idea is if you take what the defense gives you and start shredding them underneath, they adjust to stop that and loosen up on the longer stuff.

 

Allen did this on his drives vs. GB in preseason.  Yesterday, Nope.

 

The deep passes would be OK if Allen hits them, but that's been a struggle for him since his rookie year.

[dave mcbride]

3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

The dink and dunk ***** is a recipe for a mistake…. I don’t want to see the 15+ play drives for 6-7 yard dump offs. 

Normally, yes, but against a team that can bring massive pressure with just four, it's the answer. The Pats have done this for years and have had no problem scoring. Yesterday, it would have been an answer to the problem the Steelers posed.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

The dink and dunk ***** is a recipe for a mistake…. I don’t want to see the 15+ play drives for 6-7 yard dump offs. 

Fans and media are making this too simple of an argument. 

 

The Allen throw 50 times template doesn't work in every game, every situation. 

 

We tried to shoehorn it in yesterday and it failed. 

 

It's not that we start running 50/50. But our Coaches don't seem to put any stock in balancing out the offense, or adjusting to what is really happening on the field in a specific game. 

 

We need our Coaches to recognize what is happening quicker and adjust. We didn't do that. Second play of the game we're throwing -2 yard passes sideways. In the 3rd quarter we're still having Isaiah McKenzie run the ball for -3 yards, then going deep the next play. 

 

The result was a chaotic offensive game with zero rhythm. 

[Milanos Milano]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

And to your point.....after that 13-3 season the Rams went 9-7 and everyone was saying "McVay has been solved, he's a one-trick pony, he can't or won't adjust"

A 18-32 loss to Green Bay last year in the Division round only furthered that narrative.

 

Now McVay thumps a Dalton-QB'd Bears team and he's a super-genius again.

He’s 38-0 when leading at the half. He now has a competent QB. They are going to be a fun team to watch. 

[Mr. WEO]

maybe the bandwagoneers.  others have been on Zelig Daboll since he put down Saban's latte foamer.

[SCBills]

Daboll takes the lionshare of the blame, sure... but not all on Daboll.

 

-Daboll designed a TD for Sanders.  Allen missed him.

 

-Daboll designed a first down conversion to get us in scoring position with a quick screen to Beasley.  Allen threw it into the dirt.

 

-Daboll designed a seam route big gainer to Sanders.  Sanders allowed himself to get separated from the ball.  

 

Players also have to make plays... even when their OC is off in la-la land most of the game.  

 

Claypool, Juju and Diontae all made big time plays down the stretch.  I can't name one big play a WR made for Josh that wasn't a routine catch.  

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by SCBills

[Milanos Milano]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Daboll takes the lionshare of the blame, sure... but not all on Daboll.

 

-Daboll designed a TD for Sanders.  Allen missed him.

 

-Daboll designed a first down conversion to get us in scoring position with a quick screen to Beasley.  Allen threw it into the dirt.

 

-Daboll designed a seam route big gainer to Sanders.  Sanders allowed himself to get separated from the ball.  

 

Players also have to make plays... even when their OC is off in la-la land most of the game.  

 

Claypool, Juju and Diontae all made big time plays down the stretch.  I can't name one big play a WR made for Josh that wasn't a routine catch.  

 

Claypool is an animal. We don’t have that kind of WR who will just fly over the middle and use his body in the line of duty. We need a 6’ 6” beast WR who will just go rhino mode when you need it. 

[Thurman#1]

2 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

McVay is 38-0 with a lead at the half. How is it that other coaches can be so competent with less talent than us? Is Geoff and Stafford better than Allen? I don’t think so, so it tells me coaching/play calling is the issue. 

 

 

McVay didn't need to rebuild. Every part of your record will look better if only you step into a team that is already on the way up.

[Jobot]

What is "Monday morning quarterback on steroids"

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

McVay didn't need to rebuild. Every part of your record will look better if only you step into a team that is already on the way up.

Well I will give a McDermott the benefit of the doubt and will start his stat counter this year seeming how we are no longer a rebuilding team. McDermott is currently 0-1 when leading at the half. 

[appoo]

Do think Daboll had too many formation tendencies - at least it was obvious when we were going to run or pass - and the Steelers knew what was going to happen. You can tell by how the Linebackers took their first steps. 

 

He wasn't helped by Allen getting frustrated and throwing into double and sometimes triple coverage. 

 

Allen clearly stopped trusting his protection, and when that happens, you have an entirely different offense. He's not going through his progressions. Instead he stops at the first half opening and sends it. The best Josh is the Josh that hangs, moves the pocket, and then delivers. Yesterday, he hung, scrambled, and rarely extended the pocket. 

 

When 3 of your lineman are struggling that badly with protection, you need to change your protection. Start going 11 & 12 packages, and block with 7, and run routes with 3. Some arrogance involved in thinking that Allen would just be able to deal with that kind of pressure all on his own. Especially when you consider he's having to deal with 6-8 guys in coverage. 

 

Dunno, think if the Bills had just used more bodies to protect, that could have settled Allen mentally, and he could back to his thing of finding those 2nd and 3rd windows deeper into the zone. 

[PolishDave]

17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Don't disagree the coaches did not do a good job yesterday on offense especially. But I am not sure there is an adjustment known to man that works when your OL are being rag dolled right off the snap. It was from the very first offensive play we had in the game. They just got bullied. There are not many adjustments for that. The Bills tried shuffling personnel and it made no difference. 

 

 

Seems the logical thing to do is to bring in more personnel to block.    Keep a back in the backfield instead of out wide.   Put a tight end in who chips the defensive end before running his passing route.   Shovel passes just beyond the penetrating defenders.   Half back draw plays.   Good coaches have been defeating superior pass rushes for years.

 

I recall a few years back when the Bills had a top defense, that top defense was soundly defeated by Philip Rivers and Tom Brady getting the ball out so fast it essentially negated any type of pass rush the superior BIlls defense could muster.     Yesterday our QB was holding the football for how many seconds waiting for plays to develop?  All game just about?  

 

I still like the coaches we have - especially McDermott.   I think there is still a lot of room for improvement from them that would greatly improve this team.   I think they were under-prepared for the difficulties the Steelers presented in this game.  The coaches didn't have the answers they needed and it showed in the second half.   And if they were as prepared as they could be for this game, then it shows that the Steelers' coach(es) who prepared for Buffalo were/are better at their job - at least for this game they were.   

[Hapless Bills Fan]

20 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

He’s 38-0 when leading at the half. He now has a competent QB. They are going to be a fun team to watch. 

 

What's Your Pont?  He's 44-21 overall, meaning he must be a fairly miserable 6-21 when not leading at the half.

Are you arguing McVay is usually unable to make adjustments and bring a team back from behind?

[Milanos Milano]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

What's Your Pont?  He's 44-21 overall, meaning he must be a fairly miserable 6-21 when not leading at the half.

Are you arguing McVay is usually unable to make adjustments and bring a team back from behind?

Part of that 6-21 is not having a competent QB. Stafford will help that statistic. 
Allen on the Rams is an instant Super Bowl favorite. 

Edited September 13, 2021 by IronMaidenBills

[bobobonators]

I like Daboll. That being said, i feel ive asked myself over the last couple of years, way too many times, “wtf kind of play was that?!” 
 

 

 

[First Round Bust]

plus I was surprised that Moss was inactive  - so I expected a little not a lot of gameplan involving Breida and his "speed" and we got nothing, actually I will call it a negative from that move

Plus Sweeney was active and played 4 downs - none on ST - so the only value to activate him is in case Knox goes down (as if Gilliam cant sub ?)

 

Also if you watched the SNF game- the Rams also played the "light box" like to Pitts, dropping the LBs deeper and daring the Bears to run...is this the new D strategy to deal with the pass-happy offenses ???  esp when you have confidence in your front four ?

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by First Round Bust

[BillMafia716ix]

Bills played right into the Steelers strength. Bills led most of the game, dominated time of possession and Josh Allen still threw it 51 times. 
 

Melvin Ingram, TJ Watt, Cam Heyward we’re T’ing off on Allen and made him uncomfortable. We had no threat of a run game. Daboll STILL has no interest in trying to establish one. It will once again be our Achilles heel if he doesn’t figure that out.

 

 

 

[ngbills]

Maybe they should have played the starting O a bit more in preseason? 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

17 minutes ago, PolishDave said:

Seems the logical thing to do is to bring in more personnel to block.    Keep a back in the backfield instead of out wide.   Put a tight end in who chips the defensive end before running his passing route.   Shovel passes just beyond the penetrating defenders.   Half back draw plays.   Good coaches have been defeating superior pass rushes for years.

 

This is where small individual decisions can snowball.  The decision was made off-season to move on from Lee Smith, the prototypical Extra Blocker who can catch if the D loses track of him.  OK, fine.  But Knox still isn't fit to carry Smith's jockstrap as a blocker.  Knox can block OK if he's sure who to block, but needing to diagnose a defense and decide who his assignment is after the snap eluded him last season and while he's thinking, the guy he's supposed to block is tackling the RB for a loss or chasing the QB around like a chicken.  They kept Tommy Sweeney as the more prototypical blocking-type TE, but he hardly played.

 

Then the decision was made to scratch Zach Moss, the better blocking RB by far, in favor of Breida.  I'm not sure Breida can block.  Singletary was kept in to block at times.  I saw him looking about frantically for someone to block at least once while Ingram was sailing by to his L.  If "we need help blocking inline or in the backfield" is the question, I'm not sure Singletary is the answer.

 

Basically, if the need is for extra blockers or for a bit of extra help, the extra hands solution is a good one.  But our OL was just getting their asses sliced off and handed to them, and the extra hands we needed were either inactive or not seeing the field.

 

17 minutes ago, PolishDave said:

I recall a few years back when the Bills had a top defense, that top defense was soundly defeated by Philip Rivers and Tom Brady getting the ball out so fast it essentially negated any type of pass rush the superior BIlls defense could muster.     Yesterday our QB was holding the football for how many seconds waiting for plays to develop?  All game just about?  

 

This is what has to happen, along with running.  If the DL is going to tee off and get after us because they're not worried about quick passes or runs - then give them quick passes and runs!

 

17 minutes ago, PolishDave said:

I still like the coaches we have - especially McDermott.   I think there is still a lot of room for improvement from them that would greatly improve this team.   I think they were under-prepared for the difficulties the Steelers presented in this game.  The coaches didn't have the answers they needed and it showed in the second half.   And if they were as prepared as they could be for this game, then it shows that the Steelers' coach(es) who prepared for Buffalo were/are better at their job - at least for this game they were.   

 

Yep.  McDermott has a reputation for not staying down - for responding to a loss by digging deep and figuring it out.  We will see if he shows that here.

[RobbRiddick]

I blame the government for my lack of money, my parents for my looks, my teachers for my crap job and my wife for my kids.

 

My wife blames me for asking her to marry me 

Edited September 13, 2021 by RobbRiddick