Happy NFL Kickoff Day! Cowboys at Bucs 8:20pm NBC

[BillsShredder83]

3 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

I wanna say hi to my wife and kids that are at home sleeping….

 

Yeah they’ll watch the game tomorrow and see your shot out. FU Tom!!! Lol

 

 

 

 

I hope 4 Jamaiccan men are exiting Bradys bedroom 60mins before he gets home

[Reader]

9 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said:

Stupid for Cowboys not go for it on 4th down.   
 

Man, I hate Brady.

 

on the bright side, at least the Cowboys lost.

 

Agreed. Last year Zimmer went for 4th and short to ice a game and failed. Belichick had his, go for it on his own side of the field, against P Manning and failed.

 

I find those decisions some much more forgivable than what McCarthy decided to do here.

[Norcalbillsfan]

8 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

just really sick of Brady getting all the calls. The non call of offensive pass interference was awful, combined with ticky tack holding calls on Dallas.  

I tell my friends its the Brady factor. Cheifs dbs were dragging bills wrs to the ground, 2 weeks later Brady gets 3 penalties In the first 2 drives. Extension of the arm to get separation is a no brainer call. Just glad other teams can now feel the frustration that us bills fans have felt.

[The Red King]

Great game marred by a bad no-call.  Let's be honest though, with Brady under center they still might have won even with the call.

 

Dallas gave that game away.  Two missed chip shots that amounted to four lost points.  Squandered opportunities on offense.  Tampa showed me they're good, but not invincible.  If Buffalo brings their 'A' game, they can beat them.

[BuffaloBills1998]

27 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I won't change your mind but in general refs tend to bite their whistles late in games especially when it comes to pass interference calls.

But for 20+ years most of those calls happen when Brady is playing the game. You can’t tell me that the NFL isn’t fixed for him to some degree. It’s absolutely disgusting

[Punching Bag]

28 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

The OPI is debatable but I’m not sure if it was the screen play or the almost pick but there was a clear hold in the middle of the line early in that drive where one of Tampa’s oline threw a Cowboys defender down with a wrestling takedown idk how that was missed

 

Just add uniforms

[mannc]

28 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Guarantee if the Jets were in the position to beat the Tampa Bay Brady’s and Zach Wilson throws a ball to Corey Davis and Davis Forearm shivers a Tampa CB like that it’s getting called OPI. 100%

100 times out of 100

[Doc Brown]

5 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

But for 20+ years most of those calls happen when Brady is playing the game. You can’t tell me that the NFL isn’t fixed for him to some degree. It’s absolutely disgusting

So I didn't change your mind?

[Coach Tuesday]

Best thing that can happen is having this crap cost Jerry wins, because his carping actually makes Goodell fidget in his seat.  It amazes me how stupidly-run the NFL continues to be while betting is now legal and an activist Congress is looming.  

Edited September 10, 2021 by Coach Tuesday

[Punching Bag]

22 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

I tell my friends its the Brady factor. Cheifs dbs were dragging bills wrs to the ground, 2 weeks later Brady gets 3 penalties In the first 2 drives. Extension of the arm to get separation is a no brainer call. Just glad other teams can now feel the frustration that us bills fans have felt.

 

Teams need to be hitting Br*dy as much as possible so when he is knocked out teams will not get calls.

Yes some players will get penalties but as long as it is not flagrant they will not be thrown out of game.

[Kelly the Dog]

Brady and his team get every necessary call. But it’s not much different than the NBA and Jordan (and later Shaq) getting every call.
 

Sports changed IMO with Jordan. Superstars used to get the benefit of the doubt on calls, in pretty much every sport. When Jordan became a superstar, halfway into his career, he no longer got the benefit of the doubt, he pretty much got every call. 
 

That’s what happened with Brady. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

49 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Hopefully the nfc east makes a comeback because dallas' offense is practically unstoppable. Dak was doing this last year before he got hurt too

 

Dak played a good game and I don't want to take anything away from that, but "unstoppable"?

 

Punt-TD-Punt-Missed FG-TD on a Fumble just outside the redzone - Field Goal off an INT -  Missed FG - FG - Interception - TD - FG -Punt

 

Is that what you call "unstoppable"?  

 

Looks to me like they settled for FG attempts 5x

Also got 9 points instead of 14 off 2 turnovers

 

Again, saw some good stuff from Dak this game, but the Dallas offense reminds me of the Bills offense in 2019 where we did good things

Just not enough of them, and settled for 3 points instead of 7 too often.

 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

Forget the OPI on Godwin not called.

 

Go back to a play on that last drive where the Bucs were near mid field.  I think there was 55 seconds left.

 

One of the Dallas DT got absolutely mauled exactly like Via was - and considering the refs were all over that, this should have been blatantly obvious.  No call.  

 

And probably no call because I don't know the DTs name, he's going against Brady, and the refs are literally watching the comeback happen.....full on in the tank mode.  It's probably mostly subconscious not so much deliberate - but it's still a problem.  Going on 20 years now.  

 

 

The Bucs will be the 1 seed and coast to the Super Bowl because their schedule is straight trash and you can't cover all those weapons.  And you absolutely cannot run on them.  Should win 15 games.  

 

It will be a pleasure kicking their a** in the SB

Edited September 10, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Dak throws for plus 400 and the Cowboys lose.  Brady game winning drive with a blown ref call.  Same as it ever was.

 

 

And the Bucs turned it over 4 times.  

 

You need perfectly timed holding calls against Dallas or DPIs to change the game.  

 

And your kicker be terrible.  And to leave a minute and a half after choosing FG was not smart.  I didn't like kicking it at all there.  48 yards when he's having a bad night was perfect time to go for it.  

 

They played it safe and great job you caught your L.  Of course a holding on that drive didn't help.  Obviously.  

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

Forget the OPI on Godwin not called.

 

Go back to a play on that last drive where the Bucs were near mid field.  I think there was 55 seconds left.

 

One of the Dallas DT got absolutely mauled exactly like Via was - and considering the refs were all over that, this should have been blatantly obvious.  No call.  

 

And probably no call because I don't know the DTs name, he's going against Brady, and the refs are literally watching the comeback happen.....full on in the tank mode.  It's probably mostly subconscious not so much deliberate - but it's still a problem.  Going on 20 years now.  

 

 

The Bucs will be the 1 seed and coast to the Super Bowl because their schedule is straight trash and you can't cover all those weapons.  And you absolutely cannot run on them.  Should win 15 games.  

 

It will be a pleasure kicking their a** in the SB

I think the Bills will beat them in the regular season. They can be more efficient than Dallas was on offense.

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

If they were allowed to challenge it would've it been overturned?

Absolutely. The ref in the booth called it OPI.

[GunnerBill]

My first morning after reflections of the season:

 

- what a great opening night game, right? I mean I think we all knew how that was going to end but great entertainment, great atmosphere. 

 

- forget Brady (well, not totally forget but you take the point) Tampa's strength is their D line. They were all over Dallas all night and they wreck games. 

 

- Gronk, Fournette and Antonio Brown never really felt integrated parts of the offense in Tampa last year. They felt like bolt ons. With a full offseason though they all look like important players for them. 

 

- Zeke is absolutely gone. Done. Finished. There is just no pop in his legs at all. That pitch by the goalline it only needed a 2 step burst and he scored and it looked like he was wading in treacle. 

 

- remember when people thought the Cowboys shouldn't pay Dak and that you could get similar production out of Andy Dalton? Yea, good times. Dak is the best player on that team. If anything they are too reliant on him. 

 

- think both of those teams will be playoff teams when all is said and done.

[MJS]

21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

My first morning after reflections of the season:

 

- what a great opening night game, right? I mean I think we all knew how that was going to end but great entertainment, great atmosphere. 

 

- forget Brady (well, not totally forget but you take the point) Tampa's strength is their D line. They were all over Dallas all night and they wreck games. 

 

- Gronk, Fournette and Antonio Brown never really felt integrated parts of the offense in Tampa last year. They felt like bolt ons. With a full offseason though they all look like important players for them. 

 

- Zeke is absolutely gone. Done. Finished. There is just no pop in his legs at all. That pitch by the goalline it only needed a 2 step burst and he scored and it looked like he was wading in treacle. 

 

- remember when people thought the Cowboys shouldn't pay Dak and that you could get similar production out of Andy Dalton? Yea, good times. Dak is the best player on that team. If anything they are too reliant on him. 

 

- think both of those teams will be playoff teams when all is said and done.

The Cowboys with Dak have always been able to put up yards and points. Their problem is defense and closing out games.

 

I think they are the same team that has been underperforming for years. But, they probably will make the playoffs because the NFC is weak.

[LeGOATski]

23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

My first morning after reflections of the season:

 

- what a great opening night game, right? I mean I think we all knew how that was going to end but great entertainment, great atmosphere. 

 

- forget Brady (well, not totally forget but you take the point) Tampa's strength is their D line. They were all over Dallas all night and they wreck games. 

 

- Gronk, Fournette and Antonio Brown never really felt integrated parts of the offense in Tampa last year. They felt like bolt ons. With a full offseason though they all look like important players for them. 

 

- Zeke is absolutely gone. Done. Finished. There is just no pop in his legs at all. That pitch by the goalline it only needed a 2 step burst and he scored and it looked like he was wading in treacle. 

 

- remember when people thought the Cowboys shouldn't pay Dak and that you could get similar production out of Andy Dalton? Yea, good times. Dak is the best player on that team. If anything they are too reliant on him. 

 

- think both of those teams will be playoff teams when all is said and done.

Regarding Zeke, yeah it does seem like he's lost some "pop". I can't help but feel they abandoned the run too early, though. They came back to it in the 3rd quarter and Zeke ripped off a 13 yarder and I was like "keep doing that; keep Brady off the field." I gotta watch the replay tomorrow, though.

 

I think Wash or Eagles (?!?!) win the division.

[GunnerBill]

11 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Regarding Zeke, yeah it does seem like he's lost some "pop". I can't help but feel they abandoned the run too early, though. They came back to it in the 3rd quarter and Zeke ripped off a 13 yarder and I was like "keep doing that; keep Brady off the field." I gotta watch the replay tomorrow, though.

 

I think Wash or Eagles (?!?!) win the division.

 

I think Eagles will be the worst team in football. Washington or Dallas. 

 

Even that 13 yarder... it was just a contain loss by the defense. Zeke turned the corner like a grandma going out to buy milk. 

22 minutes ago, MJS said:

The Cowboys with Dak have always been able to put up yards and points.

 

Indeed. And they could barely move the ball last season without him.

[GETTOTHE50]

i guess that OPI should have been technically been called, but football is much better when the refs are not involved. majority of penalties should be called pre-snap, after the play is over (for any unsportsman like crap), or if something is obviously, i mean obviously blatant, like the missed Robey PI against the saints.

 

let the players play, and im ok with letting the players play there as well as most of the times.

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

i guess that OPI should have been technically been called, but football is much better when the refs are not involved. majority of penalties should be called pre-snap, after the play is over (for any unsportsman like crap), or if something is obviously, i mean obviously blatant, like the missed Robey PI against the saints.

 

let the players play, and im ok with letting the players play there as well as most of the times.

 

If that happens mid 3rd Quarter it is OPI but there is a kind of unwritten understanding that the officials try to avoid deciding games late with contentious calls. I was fine with the no call there. I thought it was OPI but it was not egregious.  

[nucci]

29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If that happens mid 3rd Quarter it is OPI but there is a kind of unwritten understanding that the officials try to avoid deciding games late with contentious calls. I was fine with the no call there. I thought it was OPI but it was not egregious.  

but you affect the game by not calling penalties as well...if it was OPI you have to call it

[RobbRiddick]

Great game, same frustrating outcome. I've decided Brady is never retiring, not ever. Even if I live to 100, the day of my funeral will be the same day he's playing in his 40th super bowl and the priest will probably be wearing a Brady jersey

[eball]

Brady saved my bacon. Had Tampa in 3 of my 6 survivor picks…

[JerseyBills]

Hammered Dallas and the Over. 

Frustrated with the outcome.  

Entertaining game for sure

[mannc]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

 

Even that 13 yarder... it was just a contain loss by the defense. Zeke turned the corner like a grandma going out to buy milk. 

 

How to build a losing football team: Step 1) Use your top-5 pick on a Running Back; Step 2) Hand that RB a massive second contract.

 

Fortunately for Dallas, they stole Dak in Round 4, but they still aren’t very good.  
 

 

Edited September 10, 2021 by mannc

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

but you affect the game by not calling penalties as well...if it was OPI you have to call it

 

I think in those situations they should try and let them play. I thought it was an OPI but I didn't think it was a clear and obvious mistake. 

[mannc]

41 minutes ago, eball said:

Refs saved my bacon. Had Tampa in 3 of my 6 survivor picks…

Fixed it…

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

Who won? I was cheering for the Tropical Depression.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

14 minutes ago, mannc said:

How to build a losing football team: Step 1) Use your top-5 pick on a Running Back; Step 2) Hand that RB to a massive second contract.

 

Fortunately for Dallas, they stole Dak in Round 4, but they still aren’t very good.  

 

Agreed. Go back to my Day 1 Debrief from the 2016 draft and I described taking Zeke at #4 when the Cowboys had a huge need at corner and Jalen Ramsey just sitting there as buying a shiny new front door for your house when the roof is leaking. And then the extension was ill-judged. Imagine where the Cowboys would be had they not stolen Dak in round 4 and they didn't have a Quarterback either.

 

EDIT: and 5 years later they still have that huge need a corner.... 

Edited September 10, 2021 by GunnerBill

[Coach Tuesday]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agreed. Go back to my Day 1 Debrief from the 2016 draft and I described taking Zeke at #4 when the Cowboys had a huge need at corner and Jalen Ramsey just sitting there as buying a shiny new front door for your house when the roof is leaking. And then the extension was ill-judged. Imagine where the Cowboys would be had they not stolen Dak in round 4 and they didn't have a Quarterback either. 

I thought Zeke looked shot too but remember some guys are still playing their way into shape in September so it may be too early to declare his career over with.

[mannc]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agreed. Go back to my Day 1 Debrief from the 2016 draft and I described taking Zeke at #4 when the Cowboys had a huge need at corner and Jalen Ramsey just sitting there as buying a shiny new front door for your house when the roof is leaking. And then the extension was ill-judged. Imagine where the Cowboys would be had they not stolen Dak in round 4 and they didn't have a Quarterback either. 

I’m looking forward to the Giants making the same mistake with Saquon Barkley very soon. Teams never learn. And as I recall, there was a decent QB still on the board when they drafted Barkley…

Edited September 10, 2021 by mannc

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I thought Zeke looked shot too but remember some guys are still playing their way into shape in September so it may be too early to declare his career over with.

 

That's fair, but I thought there were signs last year and all the talk was about keeping him much fresher this year and how fresh his legs were going to be..... it would at least be a cause for concern if I were in the Cowboys top brass that he came out looking like that. 

[mannc]

17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That's fair, but I thought there were signs last year and all the talk was about keeping him much fresher this year and how fresh his legs were going to be..... it would at least be a cause for concern if I were in the Cowboys top brass that he came out looking like that. 

He looks smaller…

[Tenhigh]

43 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think in those situations they should try and let them play. I thought it was an OPI but I didn't think it was a clear and obvious mistake. 

Do you think he catches that pass without the pushoff?

[Rochesterfan]

44 minutes ago, mannc said:

How to build a losing football team: Step 1) Use your top-5 pick on a Running Back; Step 2) Hand that RB to a massive second contract.

 

Fortunately for Dallas, they stole Dak in Round 4, but they still aren’t very good.  
 

 

 

This ⬆️.  

 

I think you could even push top-5 pick to top-20 pick.

 

There are just so very few that make a second contract worth it and even the 5th year option is to much money for that position.  
 

There are some great RBs that are elite, but so few actually are difference makers and he best in Henry was a 2nd round pick.

 

 

[Solomon Grundy]

50 minutes ago, mannc said:

How to build a losing football team: Step 1) Use your top-5 pick on a Running Back; Step 2) Hand that RB to a massive second contract.

 

Fortunately for Dallas, they stole Dak in Round 4, but they still aren’t very good.  
 

 

Jerry thought he had another Emmitt Smith, but I could've run behind that 90s line

[mannc]

Just now, Rochesterfan said:

 

This ⬆️.  

 

I think you could even push top-5 pick to top-20 pick.

 

There are just so very few that make a second contract worth it and even the 5th year option is to much money for that position.  
 

There are some great RBs that are elite, but so few actually are difference makers and he best in Henry was a 2nd round pick.

 

 

Carolina is going to regret giving McCaffrey that second contract, too, if they aren’t already.

1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Jerry thought he had another Emmitt Smith, but I could've run behind that 90s line

Football has changed a little bit since then…

[Simon]

This just in:
Mike McCarthy is still a nutless wonder

[GunnerBill]

29 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

Do you think he catches that pass without the pushoff?

 

I think the push off was relatively minimal. There was enough to call it but it wasn't a must call and they give you more rope inside those last 2 minutes.