Joe B's 53 man roster prediction

[Kwai San]

Pretty solid work by Joe here.  It is behind the paywall......sorry - it IS worth it.  I copied the players has has making and the PS guys.  Really think his 53 is much better than any 53 we as fan boys can come up with as he sees them day in and day out.

 

https://theathletic.com/2790305/2021/08/26/bills-53-man-roster-projection-with-one-week-before-cuts-which-spots-are-still-up-in-the-air/

 

The Initial 53-Man Roster Projection

Quarterback (2): Josh Allen, Mitchell Trubisky

Running Back (3): Zack Moss, Devin Singletary, Matt Breida

Wide Receiver (8): Stefon Diggs, Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah McKenzie, Jake Kumerow, Marquez Stevenson, Isaiah Hodgins

Tight End/Fullback (2): Dawson Knox, Reggie Gilliam

Offensive Tackles (4): Dion Dawkins, Daryl Williams, Spencer Brown, Tommy Doyle

Interior Offensive Line (5): Mitch Morse, Jon Feliciano, Cody Ford, Ike Boettger, Ryan Bates

Defensive Ends (7): Jerry Hughes, Greg Rousseau, Mario Addison, A.J. Epenesa, Boogie Basham, Efe Obada, Darryl Johnson

Defensive Tackles (5): Ed Oliver, Star Lotulelei, Justin Zimmer, Harrison Phillips, Vernon Butler

Linebackers (5): Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano, A.J. Klein, Andre Smith, Tyler Matakevich

Cornerbacks (5): Tre’Davious White, Levi Wallace, Taron Johnson, Dane Jackson, Siran Neal

Safeties (4): Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Jaquan Johnson, Damar Hamlin

Specialists (3): K Tyler Bass, P Matt Haack, LS Reid Ferguson

 

Practice Squad (if unclaimed):

QB Davis Webb
RB Antonio Williams
RB Christian Wade
WR Tanner Gentry
WR Brandon Powell
WR Steven Sims
TE Quintin Morris
OT Bobby Hart
G/C Jamil Douglas
G Jack Anderson
DT Brandin Bryant
LB Tyrell Adams
LB Tyrel Dodson
CB Rachad Wildgoose
CB Nick McCloud
CB Olaijah Griffin
S Josh Thomas

[Patrick Duffy]

So he thinks ST  T Jones doesn't make it. Interesting

[Brennan Huff]

8 wide receivers is a lot

[Lagoon Blues]

I just dont see Dawson Knox, Reggie Gilliam being the only TE's on the roster.

[uninja]

Two TE's on the active roster? No Jacob Hollister? 8 WRs?

 

This list is sus.

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

So he thinks ST  T Jones doesn't make it. Interesting

 

And just one TE, Knox? I know Gilliam is a FB/TE hybrid but I don't see it.

[hemma]

Spencer Brown will be our 3rd TE?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, uninja said:

Two TE's on the active roster? No Jacob Hollister? 8 WRs?

 

This list is sus.

 

I think this is "initial" - then you IR a couple of guys and bring back hollister and jones as they don't need to clear waivers (or so I'm told).

[SCBills]

Did he just forget about Hollister?.. not even on the PS if clears waivers?  
 

 

[Coach Tuesday]

From the article:

 

Re-sign RB Taiwan Jones and TE Jake Hollister

Now to the roster madness. This is a move Beane loves using at final cuts. He identifies vested veterans — players with over four accrued years of NFLservice or more — near the middle to bottom of the roster, on the final year of their contracts and without a ton of guaranteed money owed. Vested veterans do not need to pass through waivers and may immediately sign wherever they choose. Beane releases them initially, gives them some money for their trouble and re-signs them to give his team flexibility. In this case, it’s with the injuries to McKenzie and Phillips. That small move with Jones and Hollister would keep McKenzie and Phillips available to return off IR this year while keeping on two other younger players they otherwise would have had to cut. Jones has $700,000 guaranteed this year, and Hollister only has $137,500 guaranteed, according to OverTheCap.com. Upon their re-signing, it’s fair to expect their new contracts would be close to fully guaranteed for the season with a nice little signing bonus.

[That's No Moon]

6 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

8 wide receivers is a lot

Not when you can lose 2 or 3 at a time over personal beliefs

[FilthyBeast]

Just some random thoughts on this:

 

- no way this team is keeping 8 WR's and don't understand the Hodgins love, nobody is going to claim him and he can be put on the PS if we like him that much.

- agree with RB. I know Jones is a great ST player but you have to make sacrifices sometimes and he probably will be out there on the street if we really need him back later this season.

- No way we are cutting Hollister and it has nothing to do with being JA's former college teamate, IMO right now he's a better TE than Knox based on his previous resume.

- I know we are deep on dline but again, how can we justifying keeping 12 total players between DE/DT when only so many can dress each week. I still think a surprise move is coming in form of trade/cut involving Addison or Hughes.

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

From the article:

 

Re-sign RB Taiwan Jones and TE Jake Hollister

Now to the roster madness. This is a move Beane loves using at final cuts. He identifies vested veterans — players with over four accrued years of NFLservice or more — near the middle to bottom of the roster, on the final year of their contracts and without a ton of guaranteed money owed. Vested veterans do not need to pass through waivers and may immediately sign wherever they choose. Beane releases them initially, gives them some money for their trouble and re-signs them to give his team flexibility. In this case, it’s with the injuries to McKenzie and Phillips. That small move with Jones and Hollister would keep McKenzie and Phillips available to return off IR this year while keeping on two other younger players they otherwise would have had to cut. Jones has $700,000 guaranteed this year, and Hollister only has $137,500 guaranteed, according to OverTheCap.com. Upon their re-signing, it’s fair to expect their new contracts would be close to fully guaranteed for the season with a nice little signing bonus.

That context changes alot.  

 

Agree on Harry, not sure about McKenzie to IR based on his comments today.

 

If Joe had to pick 1 player to resign, who would it be?  

 

I'd clearly go with Hollister, but we will see.

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

8 wide receivers is a lot

The current situation may change things a bit and I think we will keep 7, but I don’t think we keep 8.  Hodgins to PS if unclaimed.

[jav]

Tommy Sweeney cut--don't see it. PS to IR is more likely/logical

[Royale with Cheese]

I'm sure Hollister makes it and wouldn't be surprised if he takes over as the #1 tight end at some point in the season.

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

I'm sure Hollister makes it and wouldn't be surprised if he takes over as the #1 tight end at some point in the season.

Agree. I likes me some Hollister.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

5 minutes ago, jav said:

Tommy Sweeney cut--don't see it. PS to IR is more likely/logical

Cut Roscoe Sweeney?!?

NEVER!

[17islongenough]

And no one read the whole thing

[First Round Bust]

15 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

From the article:

 

Re-sign RB Taiwan Jones and TE Jake Hollister

Now to the roster madness. This is a move Beane loves using at final cuts. He identifies vested veterans — players with over four accrued years of NFLservice or more — near the middle to bottom of the roster, on the final year of their contracts and without a ton of guaranteed money owed. Vested veterans do not need to pass through waivers and may immediately sign wherever they choose. Beane releases them initially, gives them some money for their trouble and re-signs them to give his team flexibility. In this case, it’s with the injuries to McKenzie and Phillips. That small move with Jones and Hollister would keep McKenzie and Phillips available to return off IR this year while keeping on two other younger players they otherwise would have had to cut. Jones has $700,000 guaranteed this year, and Hollister only has $137,500 guaranteed, according to OverTheCap.com. Upon their re-signing, it’s fair to expect their new contracts would be close to fully guaranteed for the season with a nice little signing bonus.

I was told there would be no math...sigh

 

[Bangarang]

No idea why he has Hodgins making the team. 
 

No idea why he’s only keeping 2 TEs, 1 of which is Gilliam.

 

T Jones is close to a lock to make the team. Breida is closer to being cut than Jones IMO 

Not so sure Tommy Doyle makes the team either.

 

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, Bangarang said:

No idea why he has Hodgins making the team. 
 

No idea why he’s only keeping 2 TEs, 1 of which is Gilliam.

 

T Jones is close to a lock to make the team. Breida is closer to being cut than Jones IMO 

Not so sure Tommy Doyle makes the team either.

 

Yeah not really feeling his 53 prediction. Definitely some head scratchers in there.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

5 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Not so sure Tommy Doyle makes the team either.

He has to!

NFL rules:  Every team shall have a player whose name sounds like he's direct from the auld sod.  It's right after the policies regarding conditional draft picks.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Pretty close to what I have. I'm only keeping 3 OT's though with Bates as the emergency 4th.

 

I'm also letting Taiwan Jones walk. 

Edited August 26, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede

[billybrew1]

With Phillips injured, I question our ability to stop the run. Should Beane be looking for a stout DT to shore up our interior?

Ed, Star, Vernon and Justin. Not the greatest collection of run stoppers you ever saw.

It looks worrisome to me....

 

Could Beane surprise us and claim a DT?

I would it exciting if we kept 8 WRs. I think we are going to need them. 

[Craig Oi]

39 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

That context changes alot.  

 

Agree on Harry, not sure about McKenzie to IR based on his comments today.

 

If Joe had to pick 1 player to resign, who would it be?  

 

I'd clearly go with Hollister, but we will see.

 Isaiah Hodgins, would be my guess.

 

[PromoTheRobot]

31 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Cut Roscoe Sweeney?!?

NEVER!

Buzz Sawyer, blast from the past.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, billybrew1 said:

With Phillips injured, I question our ability to stop the run. Should Beane be looking for a stout DT to shore up our interior?

Ed, Star, Vernon and Justin. Not the greatest collection of run stoppers you ever saw.

It looks worrisome to me....

 

Could Beane surprise us and claim a DT?

I would it exciting if we kept 8 WRs. I think we are going to need them. 

Phillips will be back or they would. 

[ganesh]

51 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

8 wide receivers is a lot

Agreed... Hard to see Hodgins be valued more than Hollister.    Hollister has been on three  3 NFL teams

[Big Turk]

52 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said:

I just dont see Dawson Knox, Reggie Gilliam being the only TE's on the roster.

 

I don't either...I think one of the WRs ends up on IR to "stash" him

[Kwai San]

1 hour ago, uninja said:

Two TE's on the active roster? No Jacob Hollister? 8 WRs?

 

This list is sus.

Hollister is going to be signed when some players go to IR per Joe....

57 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Did he just forget about Hollister?.. not even on the PS if clears waivers?  
 

 

 See right above your comment.....precisely what happens....

Edited August 26, 2021 by Kwai San

[GunnerBill]

Joe's roster reads more like who he'd like to see make it rather than who he thinks the Bills will. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Joe's roster reads more like who he'd like to see make it rather than who he thinks the Bills will. 

Were you able to read the whole article?

[Kwai San]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Joe's roster reads more like who he'd like to see make it rather than who he thinks the Bills will. 

 

If all you did were to read the roster and not the story I can easily see your point.  If you read the story and his reasoning it is sound and makes a lot of sense.  That coupled with the fact he gets the eye test almost each and every day AND gets to talk to the players and coaches he has a much better feel for who should be in and show might be out than the average TBD'er.  Just saying......

[ngbills]

No way they only keep Knox and Gilliam at TE. 

Dont see Jake Kumerow, Marquez Stevenson, Isaiah Hodgins all making the roster. One or tow of them max.

LB Dodson is making the team

 

Side note - He doesnt even have Fromm on practice squad. Some out there think he has trade value...

Edited August 26, 2021 by ngbills

[Patrick Duffy]

22 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Were you able to read the whole article?

I didn't myself. I mean thread was about his 53 man prediction that was listed without having to click link. Was it a 2nd prediction on the linked article or something? 

Edited August 26, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

2 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

I didn't myself. I mean thread was about his 53 man prediction that was listed without having to click link. Was it a 2nd prediction on the linked article or something? 

Yeah he actually has some creative moves that Beane may use to save some talent.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Yeah he actually has some creative moves that Beane may use to save some talent.

Ok that's cool . I was just looking at what his final 53 was and didn't have to click link for that.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

31 minutes ago, Kwai San said:

 

If all you did were to read the roster and not the story I can easily see your point.  If you read the story and his reasoning it is sound and makes a lot of sense.  That coupled with the fact he gets the eye test almost each and every day AND gets to talk to the players and coaches he has a much better feel for who should be in and show might be out than the average TBD'er.  Just saying......

 

That's the problem with posting articles that need a sub. A lot of people don't have a sub, so when the story is behind the paywall, all they see is the roster and there are def some questions marks that need explaining.

 

His reasoning with some of the omissions is that they can Andre Roberts them, ie handshake deal after another player hits IR.

[Back2Buff]

Dodson needs to be on the roster with the way Milano always gets injured.  We need 6 LBs.  At one point last year, I think we had 7 or 8.

 

Hodgins doesn't need to be on this team.  I don't get the obsession with him.

 

Doyle doesn't deserve to be on team.

 

Those are not super bowl caliber CBs.  Scary thin.

 

How did he write this roster with 1 TE on it.