YoloinOhio Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) What did I miss? Lots at stake… TC starts 2 weeks from today!! 🤩 Edited July 13, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I voted CB2 as it is such a critical position on the D. The team’s fortunes will mostly rest on Josh Allen’s play along with that of the rest of the offense. At the same time, Tampa showed last year that you can’t forget about D if you happen to win the Super Bowl. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I actually selected "other". I am very interested in the battle at DE among the newcomers (Obada in particular) along with the rookies and returning DE's (Addison, Epenesa, Johnson and Love). 8 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) I picked WR6/7, but PR/KR was my second choice and the two are intertwined, I believe. The WR situation interests me…the Bills have, I think, some real tough decisions to make. Will Beasley shut his mouth and, more importantly, make sure he doesn’t bring Covid into the locker room? His insistence on “living his normal life” amid the spawning variants could totally scuttle the Bills’ season. I think both McKenzie and Sanders can play the slot so if Beasley goes I’m not worried. Presuming Beasley behaves himself Diggs, Beasley, Sanders, Davis, McKenzie are locks. I’m rooting for Hodgins because he brings a different skill set to the mix. I’m also rooting for Stevenson because he looks like he could be dynamic. Kumerow seems to hang around. It will be a good camp battle to watch. Edit: I also think the battle for who makes the roster at DE/DL will be very interesting. Edited July 13, 2021 by eball 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I voted CB2 but I think the battle for the last couple DL spots will be interesting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I had to go RB based on having so much room for improvement over last year. Moss flashed before getting hurt, Singletary showed promise his first year, and by media reports has been working hard this off season, does one of them break out or does Breida prove to be our best option in an otherwise underachieving position. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, richNjoisy said: I actually selected "other". I am very interested in the battle at DE among the newcomers (Obada in particular) along with the rookies and returning DE's (Addison, Epenesa, Johnson and Love). I agree. I am interested to see who emerges as a legit pass rushing threat. Beane has put a ton of money and draft picks into the DL with little to show for it. Time for these guys to step up. Hated most of the signings last year. Too old and slow. Really like that they asked Epenesa to lose weight. Of course it won't happen but I still want to see Edmunds as an OLB in the 4-3. He's fine at MLB in nickel which they play the majority of time. But even in nickel I'd like to see him rush the passer and have Milano play deep middle from time to time. The final five on the OL will be interesting to see. I'm still going with Feliciano as my surprise training camp cut as they go with youth at guard and Bates as a swing tackle back-up center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I voted LG, Lamp Ford and Boettger battling it out. I hope one steps up bigly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) I had cb2 and rb1 (more of the position group as a whole) just about even but voted RB1... Replace option 2 (QB3) with DE battle and that would make me think all 3. Edited July 13, 2021 by The Tomcat spelling is hard and so is reading 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 The DL spots. We have 12 and I think we get it down to 9. I think Johnson, Zimmer and Butler get the axe. Hughes AJ Oliver Obada Addison Butler Rousseau Boogie Zimmer Harry Star Johnson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 As OBD likes flexibility I wonder if they try Lamp at C in camp and, if so, can he give Morse a run for the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The DL spots. We have 12 and I think we get it down to 9. I think Johnson, Zimmer and Butler get the axe. Hughes AJ Oliver Obada Addison Butler Rousseau Boogie Zimmer Harry Star Johnson I can see Johnson and Zimmer but, according to Spotrac, Butler has a $6,000,000 dead cap that is almost $700,000 more than his cap hit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Tough choice between RB and D-line in general. I’m really excited/ hopeful that Breida offers a much needed home run potential out of the backfield both running and receiving. I know he hasn’t earned that accolade anywhere but a man can dream. I think it is paramount to get a run game/ short passing game going this year! D- line: Do either of the rookies have an appreciable impact? Are they able to show out in a short preseason and earn a decent snap count or is it Epenesa 2.0 time? Does Star comeback rejuvenated and have a cascading positive effect on the middle of the line. Does Oliver show out or show more of the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I feel that cb2 is the most important camp battle as our roster is currently constructed. I’d prefer to add Nelson and put him in that cb2 spot, but as is, I feel that Dane winning the cb2 gives our D more versatility. We need a cb2 that is more competent playing man than Levi is. As many have said, I’m eager to see which pass rusher can stand out and make an impact early. Between Obada, Epenesa, Rousseau and Basham, we really need (at leasth one of them to establish themselves and provide consistent pressure. Between the 4……I have no idea who the favorite is. I’d probably say Epenesa at this point. The return battle should be a good one. I just hope it’s not a scary one. I hope someone takes Taiwan Jones’ spot so we can use that roster spot on someone that can do more than just play gunner. Jones is good at what he does. Too bad that’s all that he does. the battle at LG- I don’t care who wins it as long as the guy who wins it stays healthy and doesn’t suck. rb1- I felt as if it was moss’s job to lose, but with his injury recovery might put him behind motor for awhile. I just hope that we see enough of breida that he can have an affect on the game. If he doesn’t suit up on a weekly basis, I’m not going to be happy. We needed to add speed to the backfield this offseason……not speed to the inactive list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, richardb1952 said: I can see Johnson and Zimmer but, according to Spotrac, Butler has a $6,000,000 dead cap that is almost $700,000 more than his cap hit. Do you think we keep 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkelly Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 As much as I watch this board, I seem to be a minority on this, even by the poll. I'm very interested how the two guard positions shake out. I find it hard to believe that all our backs suck at running the middle. This has got to be a line issue, especially guard positions. Speed means nothing if you don't have a lane to run through. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 TE for me. I wanna see Fort Knox make the BIG step, I have ridden him like a $2 pony before but thats tough love - I wanna see him do it. I wanna see what Sweeny brings to the table and of course JA's college target!!!! Gonna be fun to see who shakes outa the tree for this position. DE's is another interesting battle for reasons already stated! As much as I don't want to wish away time.....I sure am looking forward to the real games in September!!!! GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I think there are quite a few positions where "starter" is more or less a technicality. Singletary, or Breida could be named the starting RB, but Moss will likely get more snaps. Jackson, and Wallace will both get plenty of playing time. Knox, and Hollister should be complimentary. The D-line, especially, will likely have a rotation that will make opposing DC's heads spin. P/KR will be a pretty good competition to watch, and may ultimately affect who makes depth at WR. I voted "other" for the D-line competitions, DT, and DE. There's so much potential there, but a lot of question marks, as well. Can't wait to see some of these guys in action. But is Christian Wade comes out and starts competing for P/KR, or looks like he has a real shot at RB, I'll change my vote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 TE1. The position was a major weakness last year and I believe Hollister can push Knox for a starting job. Hopefully one of the two steps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I put corner on the poll But I am also very curious to see if one of our youngster DLs comes in and plays well enough out the gate to unseat somebody in the veteran room especially boogie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I'm interested in the interior oline battles. Will Forest Lamp push for a starting spot? A rookie? What will Cody Ford look like? Can Ike Boettger develop further and lock down a spot? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) I went with CB2. Levi is going to face some real heat from Dane Jackson (whom I expect to win the job) and possibly even Wildgoose. The RB1 battle is a close 2nd to me. Singletary seems to be working his tail off this offseason, not sure about Moss, Antonio Williams did as well as he possibly could in limited opportunities, and you know Breida is looking for a little redemption after his flameout in Miami. I think the DL comes in 3rd, but all 3 of these are going to be focused on and you could interchange any of the three. Edit: It's crazy to sit here and think about how strong some of these position groups really are and how there will be good players that don't make this roster. In years past we were hoping that other teams' castoffs would turn into good players for us. Edited July 13, 2021 by H2o 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 This seems like as good a place as any to ask - has there been any rumblings if fans might be able to attend TC at the stadium - or when an annoucement might be forthcoming? Planning to go up to Buffalo 1st week in Aug w/ my son w/ hopes to go to TC w/ my Dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 TE1 It'll be quite a battle once Ertz shows up. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Beane's biggest mistake this offseason was not resigning Roberts so I went with KR/PR as field position is huge. You really couldn't match what's basically a one year 2.6 million dollar deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I honestly think it is returner. Dre Roberts contributed a lot of hidden yards for this team that are now gone. He didn't break loads of big ones but he consistently got 10 yards of field position per punt return and gained an extra 5 yards (beyond the ball coming to the 25) per kick return. When you think he averaged roughly 2 PR and 2 KR per game that equates to about 30 yards a game you lose. Can McKenzie win that job and give them extra flexibility in the back end receiver spots? Can Stevenson force it off him? Can Powell surprise everyone? It is a critical piece nobody is talking much about. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I honestly think it is returner. Dre Roberts contributed a lot of hidden yards for this team that are now gone. He didn't break loads of big ones but he consistently got 10 yards of field position per punt return and gained an extra 5 yards (beyond the ball coming to the 25) per kick return. When you think he averaged roughly 2 PR and 2 KR per game that equates to about 30 yards a game you lose. Can McKenzie win that job and give them extra flexibility in the back end receiver spots? Can Stevenson force it off him? Can Powell surprise everyone? It is a critical piece nobody is talking much about. Don't forget everyone's favorite "dark horse" candidate! Do I even need to state his name??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Long Snapper wasn't a choice so I took CB2. Key position and I'm not sold on what we currently have on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 12 hours ago, richNjoisy said: I actually selected "other". I am very interested in the battle at DE among the newcomers (Obada in particular) along with the rookies and returning DE's (Addison, Epenesa, Johnson and Love). That is neck and neck with CB2 imo, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I believe Fromm beats Trubustsky out for QB2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Don't forget everyone's favorite "dark horse" candidate! Do I even need to state his name??? Oh yes you do… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: The DL spots. We have 12 and I think we get it down to 9. I think Johnson, Zimmer and Butler get the axe. Hughes AJ Oliver Obada Addison Butler Rousseau Boogie Zimmer Harry Star Johnson can Zimmer get back to PS for Bills ? no trade for Butler ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Frankly all these position competitions are important in their own right, Beane you freakin genius, you have created a lot of battles, it’s a win win situation for the team and the fans. Go Bills!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: I believe Fromm beats Trubustsky out for QB2 he better not Mitch is our best trade bait in years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I honestly think it is returner. Dre Roberts contributed a lot of hidden yards for this team that are now gone. He didn't break loads of big ones but he consistently got 10 yards of field position per punt return and gained an extra 5 yards (beyond the ball coming to the 25) per kick return. When you think he averaged roughly 2 PR and 2 KR per game that equates to about 30 yards a game you lose. Can McKenzie win that job and give them extra flexibility in the back end receiver spots? Can Stevenson force it off him? Can Powell surprise everyone? It is a critical piece nobody is talking much about. I would feel comfortable with Hyde retuning punts. He won’t break one but won’t muff it and understands fair catches….when to use or not use them. Kickoffs, I will predict Stevenson. 7 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: can Zimmer get back to PS for Bills ? no trade for Butler ? Not sure. Would someone trade for Butler? Not sure how much value he has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: The DL spots. We have 12 and I think we get it down to 9. I think Johnson, Zimmer and Butler get the axe. Hughes AJ Oliver Obada Addison Butler Rousseau Boogie Zimmer Harry Star Johnson Seems about right. Alot will depend on how Star looks in camp. Also remember Phillips was a healthy scratch for a bunch of games last year so he is on the bubble too. The last spot will be between Phillips and Zimmer. The group you chose is a little light at 3 technique DT. But if Boogie can play some snaps inside on passing downs they should be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: Don't forget everyone's favorite "dark horse" candidate! Do I even need to state his name??? I think he just got married Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 39 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: I believe Fromm beats Trubustsky out for QB2 Seriously? Fromm won't even make the team. Trubisky is a low end starter for some teams. Fromm has no value and hurts the team by taking up a roster spot they can and should use to carry an extra lineman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Seems about right. Alot will depend on how Star looks in camp. Also remember Phillips was a healthy scratch for a bunch of games last year so he is on the bubble too. The last spot will be between Phillips and Zimmer. The group you chose is a little light at 3 technique DT. But if Boogie can play some snaps inside on passing downs they should be ok. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Harry is cut. I'm sure he would get picked up fast. He would provide decent depth for someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I selected CB2. Although I think Dane Jackson will get every chance to win the starting spot, he still has to show he's ready. I will echo many others here and say that I will be watching out for both DL & DE. Really am looking forward to seeing who steps up. Another area that I think is getting overlooked is depth at Safety. If, God forbid, Hyde and/or Poyer were to get injured, then who steps up? With Dean Marlowe gone, there is a lot of unproven talent. Jaquon Johnson is in his 3rd year, so now is the time for him to step up. Siran Neal was originally drafted as a Safety, but appears to be a back-up CB. Can Damar Hamlin surprise and become an effective player right now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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