njbuff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, CNY315 said: How many targets would another TE even get in this offense? Especially if Davis continues to develop Knox was coming on at the end of the season a little bit. Allen likes Knox, the coaching staff likes Knox. He can be the guy if stays on the field and continues to work on his hands. Knox was pretty damn raw coming out of college, especially when Metcalf and Brown were his teammates. Patience at the TE position needs to be a virtue. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, ScottLaw said: This is where I'm at.... not a very aggressive approach thus far for a team that looked significantly behind the AFC Champs. I'm not looking for sexy, but improve. We all know the spots TE, CB, Edge, RB Do something 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 53 minutes ago, krf139 said: Everyone claimed Josh had no talent around him at Wyoming to justify his meh college stats, so nobody should be happy to bring in anyone he played with. Allen had pretty decent talent around him his soph year, including Hollister. The talent around him his junior years really sucked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I'm not looking for sexy, but improve. We all know the spots TE, CB, Edge, RB Do something I mean we could be drafting all 4 of those positions at the draft. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Pat Friermuth in round 2 please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, DJB said: I mean we could be drafting all 4 of those positions at the draft. Easily. All of them won't be significant rookie contributors, but if two of those positions can contribute as rookies, the Bills are more than fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, DJB said: Pat Friermuth in round 2 please. Maybe even with a slight trade up if necessary.....no more than 10 slots or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Yea... don't really get the "run it back" approach when you got beat soundly by the team you need to overtake to win the conference. My thoughts exactly. Bills needed to restructure a lot of the contracts and really go for it this year. My fear is that we are so worried about the future, it is derailing this next year where it will be our best shot to win it all. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanderPoke Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Hell yeah!!!!!!! Bills are getting Josh's old band back together. Now go sign RB Brian Hill. Make it happen! We're going to like Jacob Hollister, for the record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrediggerPoke Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Love the signing! Hollister was actually carried off the field by his Seattle teammates. That’s how highly he is regarded. But more importantly - the signing is HUGE from a marketing potential. There were some Wyoming residents on the fence about the Buffalo Bills. The signings of Gentry and Hollister have satisfied those concerns and captured the Wyoming market. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 55 minutes ago, krf139 said: Everyone claimed Josh had no talent around him at Wyoming to justify his meh college stats, so nobody should be happy to bring in anyone he played with. Noobs shouldn’t even be seen, let alone heard from. He graduated a year earlier than Josh, when Wyoming made a big splash nationally, making Josh a household name. A number of teammates went to the NFL, severely hampering Josh’s senior season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Could be a monster in the red zone. Besides David, we have small receivers and you saw in the playoffs teams can get physical with them. A big target in the middle of the field would have helped a ton. not giving up on Knox completely but this is by far the worst group (rbs is close) on the team. You can get one Freiermuth or Hunter Long in the draft. That's not worth a 3rd rounder which is supposedly what the Eagles wanted for Ertz Edited March 19, 2021 by CNY315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Logic said: 6’4”, 245 LBs. 27 years old. Played with Allen at Wyoming. As long as this isn’t the only move at tight end, I support it. He looks like a younger, cheaper Kroft replacement. Knox, Hollister, Sweeney isn’t enough. I hope they still try to acquire Ertz or draft a guy. Exactly, we still are without a TE1. They better not give up on Ertz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, OrediggerPoke said: Love the signing! Hollister was actually carried off the field by his Seattle teammates. That’s how highly he is regarded. But more importantly - the signing is HUGE from a marketing potential. There were some Wyoming residents on the fence about the Buffalo Bills. The signings of Gentry and Hollister have satisfied those concerns and captured the Wyoming market. Pegulas about to get a new plane because of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: They called Beane's. How do you figure that? Eagles are in cap trouble and may now have to release Ertz instead of getting something for him. The Eagles really didn’t have any leverage with this trade. If beane didn’t like the price they were asking, the Bills would move on. Which is precisely what happened by the looks of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: This is where I'm at.... not a very aggressive approach thus far for a team that looked significantly behind the AFC Champs. As Joe Marino pointed out in Twitter, the best chance the Bills have at significantly improving is for their young, highly drafted players to take a leap. We need more D-line production? Ed Oliver and AJ Epenesa could solve that. We need better run game production? Cody Ford and Moss and Singletary improving could sure give us a boost. More passing game production? Gabriel Davis and Dawson Knox progressing will certainly add to the arsenal. I’d like to see some more moves made, too. But at the end of the day, the Bills were 13-3 against a very tough schedule last year, and they have young players at key positions whose progression could significantly improve the team as a whole. With the money they had to spend this year, I’m just not sure what huge difference makers they realistically could’ve afforded that would push them ahead of the Chiefs. We need our young, premium draft pick players to progress. Oliver, Epenesa, and Edmunds having breakout years alone could be the difference. 5 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Boxcar said: Wait a sec A lot of people really wanted Dan Arnold. Hollister is just about as good as Arnold. I'm confused why people don't like this move. Ertz would've been nice, sure, but we didn't really need an elite TE. This is the tier of TE I wanted the Bills to sign. Wanna see the number but this is very nice on the surface. Knox isn't terrible. We don't need to completely replace him on offense. Great points boxcar. And we don't have boatloads of money to sign the big name guys either. Hollister is a solid NFL player. And we are not a TE based offense anyways. Only so many balls to go around. Good signing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, CNY315 said: You can get one Freiermuth or Hunter Long in the draft Or Brevin Jordan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 And I thought the Bills would go cheap on a TE .......AGAIN Now I feel bad for doubting Beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I don’t mind the signing. Ertz is a long shot and I don’t see Beane giving up assets to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: How do you figure that? Eagles are in cap trouble and may now have to release Ertz instead of getting something for him. The Eagles really didn’t have any leverage with this trade. If beane didn’t like the price they were asking, the Bills would move on. Which is precisely what happened by the looks of it. Right, and now we've struck out on Gronk, Rudolph and Ertz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Pretty sure that's exactly what's going on.... understand they have to pay Josh, but everyone else is expendable, IMO.... so go for it. Since KC has paid Mahomes, the cap hit in 2020 was 5.3 million and now 7.4 million. I don't think Allen deserves an extension before this year, but its possible to have cheaper cap hits and still get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 25 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Meh. I hope they are still monitoring the Ertz situation or have a guy they like in the draft. the Buffalo Bills hate good TEs. Have we ever had a top 5 TE besides Lonnie Johnson? Lonnine Friggin' getting laid out is still a top play, in my mind... 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Logic said: As Joe Marino pointed out in Twitter, the best chance the Bills have at significantly improving is for their young, highly drafted players to take a leap. We need more D-line production? Ed Oliver and AJ Epenesa could solve that. We need better run game production? Cody Ford and Moss and Singletary improving could sure give us a boost. More passing game production? Gabriel Davis and Dawson Knox progressing will certainly add to the arsenal. I’d like to see some more moves made, too. But at the end of the day, the Bills were 13-3 against a very tough schedule last year, and they have young players at key positions whose progression could significantly improve the team as a whole. With the money they had to spend this year, I’m just not sure what huge difference makers they realistically could’ve afforded that would push them ahead of the Chiefs. We need our young, premium draft pick players to progress. Oliver, Epenesa, and Edmunds having breakout years alone could be the difference. Post of the year candidate right here. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Logic said: As Joe Marino pointed out in Twitter, the best chance the Bills have at significantly improving is for their young, highly drafted players to take a leap. We need more D-line production? Ed Oliver and AJ Epenesa could solve that. We need better run game production? Cody Ford and Moss and Singletary improving could sure give us a boost. More passing game production? Gabriel Davis and Dawson Knox progressing will certainly add to the arsenal. I’d like to see some more moves made, too. But at the end of the day, the Bills were 13-3 against a very tough schedule last year, and they have young players at key positions whose progression could significantly improve the team as a whole. With the money they had to spend this year, I’m just not sure what huge difference makers they realistically could’ve afforded that would push them ahead of the Chiefs. We need our young, premium draft pick players to progress. Oliver, Epenesa, and Edmunds having breakout years alone could be the difference. The rare poster whose name matches his posts... Also, if this is *actually* Logic, loved the last record. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Logic said: As Joe Marino pointed out in Twitter, the best chance the Bills have at significantly improving is for their young, highly drafted players to take a leap. We need more D-line production? Ed Oliver and AJ Epenesa could solve that. We need better run game production? Cody Ford and Moss and Singletary improving could sure give us a boost. More passing game production? Gabriel Davis and Dawson Knox progressing will certainly add to the arsenal. I’d like to see some more moves made, too. But at the end of the day, the Bills were 13-3 against a very tough schedule last year, and they have young players at key positions whose progression could significantly improve the team as a whole. With the money they had to spend this year, I’m just not sure what huge difference makers they realistically could’ve afforded that would push them ahead of the Chiefs. We need our young, premium draft pick players to progress. Oliver, Epenesa, and Edmunds having breakout years alone could be the difference. I mean, plus a successful draft class this year too but I think you nailed it. Believe you me, I would love it to have the cream of the crop every year in top end talent signing with us for pennies, but that's just not how the game goes. The teams with staying power are the ones who are able to pick up reasonably priced journeymen to fill immediate gaps, and then hit on your draft picks. If you're telling me that we have gotten so good that our offseasons are about sealing off glaring weaknesses in the short term, and using our draft as our way to get breakout players, I would say "it's about time" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Right, and now we've struck out on Gronk, Rudolph and Ertz. 1. Paying 10-12 mil to gronk would have been a disaster. 2. 2 years 16 mil for Rudolph in which he signed is just insane 3. Eagles probably were demanding way too much for a 30 year old player in which is coming off an injury riddled season. Beane had a price that he was willing to pay for one of those players, and it didn’t fit. You can’t get into bidding wars for average, aging tight ends. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, ScottLaw said: The "lack of cap space" to bring sign any upper tier guys is an excuse.... as we've seen the cap is pliable. Beane is just opting not to go that route yet. Completely agree. Beane is trying to "smarter" than the other top teams in the league. Don't see it playing out favorably. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Maybe even with a slight trade up if necessary.....no more than 10 slots or so. The great thing about Friermuth is that he is a Y tight end and can come in and play day 1. I think hes one of if not the best blocking TE's in College. This isn't to say he's only a blocker, he's not. He can't catch and move. Similar prospect to a Hockenson. His nickname is baby Gronk (yes I know like the dozen guys before him). But he really does play like Gronk Edited March 19, 2021 by DJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I get that, but that's what needs to happen if they don't make significant moves to improve the roster..... it's not like they don't have a choice. They could easily restructure contracts, cut players who underperformed last season to sign better players.... but to this point they haven't done that(outside of Jefferson). There were several edge rushers available that would've def moved the needle a bit instead of hanging onto a washed ex Panther who's marginal at best at this point. I dont disagree they need their younger players to improve... that doesn't mean you just plug holes with marginal FAs. You can count on those young players to improve while adding a dynamic piece of two via FA. They are choosing to go conservative. At least to this point. We knew that in the 2021 off season it was going to be tough for the Bills to add premium talent in UFA. Hell, we all thought it was going to be IMPOSSIBLE for the Bills to bring back any of their own FA's, never mind go out and get a few stars. The Bills already have the young talent on hand to make significant improvement at most positions. Trust the process. 😁 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: The "lack of cap space" to bring sign any upper tier guys is an excuse.... as we've seen the cap is pliable. Beane is just opting not to go that route yet. It's difficult to do BOTH when it comes to keeping your own top talent and bringing in top talent, no matter what your cap situation is. Can't do both. The Bills brass decided to keep their own top talent. Only time will tell if that strategy works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I like the pick up, he's a capable player. Hopefully they are still looking to add to the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, NewEra said: You have no idea why I want him. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Beane wanted ertz......do you want him in the front office? What else have I said that makes you not want me in the FO? Let me guess, you have no idea, you just wanted to insult me? Lol to insult you?? Don’t flatter yourself Buddy. And yes I do know what I’m talking about since I’ve been watching football for a long time and if Beane really wanted ertz he’d already be on the team. And you want him because you think it’ll solve our TE problem and you think he’d be one of the pieces to help us get in the SB next year in which that’s quite a bit to bank on especially when we still need a true number 1 pass rusher to help the defense and a RB to take the pressure off of Allen’s shoulders more than a 30 year old TE coming off a career low and an injury too boot. But yes I don’t know what I’m talking about 🤣😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, glazeduck said: I kinda doubt it. This feels like more of a replacement for DiMarco. We'll see I guess... 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said: I think this guy nails it. I jumped to the conclusion that he was a kroft replacement but this might be more about improving the running game. Especially the H-back stuff. And for the record Hollister is a much better receiver then Smith was. I've seen him make some great catches over the years. He has 1 carry in his NFL career for 5 yards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Every team in the league has "young talent". The bar has been raised. It's about winning a SB now. The KC beat downs demonstrated the roster isn't good enough... they haven't really done much to change that. But yea, maybe AJE, Ford, Singletary, Knox, Moss, etc improve dramatically and they hit on some key draft picks to bring the team a SB, but I think it's a lot to ask. That's a good take as well. The Bills might not be done in terms of adding a big player. They have surprised us in the past. Something might get done after the draft for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Lol to insult you?? Don’t flatter yourself Buddy. And yes I do know what I’m talking about since I’ve been watching football for a long time makes sense 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, DJB said: The great thing about Friermuth is that he is a Y tight end and can come in and play day 1. I think hes one of if not the best blocking TE's in College. This isn't to say he's only a blocker, he's not. He can't catch and move. Similar prospect to a Hockenson. His nickname is baby Gronk (yes I know like the dozen guys before him). But he really does play like Gronk Freiermuth was a beast as a blocker and a receiver in 2019. He might be on the Bills radar, so who knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Has anyone said Championship yet? If not, I’d like to be that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Beane be like "f*** Ertz" I'm thinking that the Eagles are the ones sweating. Beane just got someone to compete for a job. A trade for Ertz is still possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Decent Kroft replacement More like a Lee Smith replacement. Good blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Come on man. Just a joke. Don't be so sensitive.😉 The best comedians say that the funniest jokes are rooted in reality... I guess you’re a really good comedian too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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