Doc Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Is there a better backup QB in the league? Much less for $2.5M? I can’t think of one. Again, for his sake, I hope he tries to hook up with Palmer, if Palmer has room. I also hope he gets plenty of chances to showcase himself...at the end of blowouts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Can’t believe I’m saying this about MT but I kinda love This move. Fans love overrating their players but I couldn’t believe how many fans didn’t realize how bad Barkley was (super nice guy). Considering the era he plays in (passing numbers are on steroids), he had some of the worst numbers possibly ever. He would have been a huge deterrent to a SB run if he ever had to play. MT was a terrible pick where he went but it becomes idiotic how over the top it goes. Dude helped guide team to the playoffs. He has some skills and is athletic. He can definitely win games and is one of the best backups in the league. This is a huge upgrade and could work of for Mitchell long term if he (hopefully not) has to play a few games for us. Great move. also, in hindsight, trading up for Mitchell instead of taking Mahomes or Deshaun Massage was probably a mistake. 😬 16 minutes ago, Boxcar said: I'd bet that Mitch Trubisky in the right system is a much better QB than Cam Newton, who got like 6 times the amount of money. At the very least, he's comparable. I guess broken down Cam. But Cam was much, much, much better than MT when he was healthy. But I love Mitchell as our backup. 46 minutes ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: I mean I can't be positive 😁 I just think if Dalton, Fitz and Tyrod got paid what they did then Trubisky could have gotten something more than 2.5 million from someone. Fitz is way better than those guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Can’t believe I’m saying this about MT but I kinda love This move. Fans love overrating their players but I couldn’t believe how many fans didn’t realize how bad Barkley was (super nice guy). Considering the era he plays in (passing numbers are on steroids), he had some of the worst numbers possibly ever. He would have been a huge deterrent to a SB run if he ever had to play. MT was a terrible pick where he went but it becomes idiotic how over the top it goes. Dude helped guide team to the playoffs. He has some skills and is athletic. He can definitely win games and is one of the best backups in the league. This is a huge upgrade and could work of for Mitchell long term if he (hopefully not) has to play a few games for us. Great move. also, in hindsight, trading up for Mitchell instead of taking Mahomes or Deshaun Massage was probably a mistake. 😬 I guess broken down Cam. But Cam was much, much, much better than MT when he was healthy. But I love Mitchell as our backup. My assumption at this point is Cam is permanently and fundamentally broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 17 hours ago, newcam2012 said: It's the Buffalo effect. I think players want to come to Buffalo. Weve seen enough evidence of it this offseason already. Another successful year like last year, and the league cap situation not being in shambles, and next year should be the most fun offseason yet! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: You are obviously entitled to your opinion on barkley > Trubisky as QB2 but it’s going to be a tough road finding any allies on that. Like, anywhere. Yeah, MT played pretty decent starting out. Hasn't quite been as good as of late, but clearly an upgrade over Barkley. I think maybe some may be stuck on that Jets game when Barkley played great and possibly over looking his overall performance. Idk, jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Boxcar said: My assumption at this point is Cam is permanently and fundamentally broken. Yeah, can’t really argue that. I know he is a rival but I loved old Cam. NE would be really dangerous if they had that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 The had a segment on gmfb this AM would you rather be the "hunter" (Cheaters) or "hunted" (Bills) and KB said Bills - "rn their backup QB is better than NE's starting QB" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, nucci said: Are you sure? I'm guessing if he was offered $10M to be a starter he would not have signed here. Not sure any of those guys would have been offered more. Cap is tight for most teams and good WRs are out there still unsigned. The security of a good contract and staying here certainly helped If Dalton, Tyrod and Fitz are getting 10M, Trubisky is getting at least those offers. He gets a chance to have some pressure taken off of him. He starts meaningless week 17 game, goes off and gets 15 million to be the Bears QB next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Well first.... Barkley's TD to INT is 11/22. He literally has twice as many INT's than TD's. 54% completion percentage. His QB rating is 66.6...you read that right. He needs to take a bath in Holy Water. Trubisky 64 TD's to 37 INT's. He's the complete opposite of Barkley. 64% completion percentage 87.2 rating. Well after reading this, I think you're actually right. Barkley is clearly better. Nice reference to Barkley’s evil QB rating 👍 I suppose that explains why he led Beasley to slaughter with that garbage time throw. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 17 hours ago, newcam2012 said: It's the Buffalo effect. I think players want to come to Buffalo. Fans always over complicate things. How many times did we really miss out on game changing FAs? It’s even easier to get FAs when you win and have a qb. I hated they even tried to get Antonio Brown in the first place but I believed he would have come 100% if it was this year and he saw this version of Allen. Let’s drop this woe is me thought about Buffalo. It’s great place and amazing if you win. Hawaii sucks when you’re a loser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Fans always over complicate things. How many times did we really miss out on game changing FAs? It’s even easier to get FAs when you win and have a qb. I hated they even tried to get Antonio Brown in the first place but I believed he would have come 100% if it was this year and he saw this version of Allen. Let’s drop this woe is me thought about Buffalo. It’s great place and amazing if you win. Hawaii sucks when you’re a loser. Good call, I remember when Bills fans expected big time players to come play with Kelly Holcomb. When we missed out they’d blame Buffalo for not having enough culture or opera houses. Edited March 19, 2021 by SirAndrew 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Good call, I remember when Bills fans expected big time players to come play with Kelly Holcomb. When we missed out they’d blame Buffalo for not having enough culture or opera houses. I miss the battles over Losman and Holcomb. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 15 hours ago, DCofNC said: You wanted to roll with Fromm as the only back up? I mean this is essentially what they paid Barkley for last year. How much more confidence is there in this team not being completely screwed if Allen misses a few games now? No I get it. It’s cheap. N it would all fall apart but if you’re already planning on Allen to get hurt you can’t plan when. And if he gets hurt in the playoffs Trubisky ain’t saving us. Just think the money could have been put into another piece. But I understand the move. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, jletha said: I hope this is a joke... this is his usual work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I saw this rumor on Twitter earlier but had no credibility until now. Love it Dump Cynthia and start following him 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I miss the battles over Losman and Holcomb. Said no one ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 21 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: "Trubisky" perfect name for Buffalo. Fits right in. Josh has Allentown, Trubisky gets Sloan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 21 hours ago, NewEra said: Lol thanks. I just skimmed a few pages. I was about to really dig into it and see if there’s any more gold in here. how about Peterman? One dude said he’d rather have Peterman.... that true? Someone would rather have sweet Nate Pete over trubillsky? Musta been Gruden 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Rebel101 said: No I get it. It’s cheap. N it would all fall apart but if you’re already planning on Allen to get hurt you can’t plan when. And if he gets hurt in the playoffs Trubisky ain’t saving us. Just think the money could have been put into another piece. But I understand the move. Maybe, maybe not, but I feel a whole lot better with Mitch than Barkley or Fromm. There’s no reason Mitch can’t be as good as Foles, he’s way more physically gifted and has had reasonable success as a starter. The way I see it, obviously you want Allen in there, but if he goes down for even a couple games, the guys we had behind him were almost a guaranteed loss (Fromm is an unknown so whatever you want to think there), and in a division where I expect it to take 11 wins or more to get a playoff birth, there’s very little room for error. You can build the rest of the team, but the key is the QB and we all know it. I don’t want a Dallas like implosion over here, I still want a chance to make the playoffs if Allen is out for any period of time. We now have that. The difference of 2.5M vs the cap is well worth that insurance. MT is a fringe starter at this point, with some elite traits, but ultimately, he’s a lower end starter. That’s a helluva backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: You are obviously entitled to your opinion on barkley > Trubisky as QB2 but it’s going to be a tough road finding any allies on that. Like, anywhere. Well, he's always got a shot with Nick Wrong, but hitching your dreams to that horse(face) would be a less than good idea... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Could the signing of Trubisky mean the Bills plan to do even more throwing the football than last season? Or even using Josh as more of a runner? Beane’s statement about potential injury struck me as odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rebel101 said: No I get it. It’s cheap. N it would all fall apart but if you’re already planning on Allen to get hurt you can’t plan when. And if he gets hurt in the playoffs Trubisky ain’t saving us. Just think the money could have been put into another piece. But I understand the move. What we got is one of or the best Back up QB's in the league. How many teams can say their backup will win a play off game? I doubt you will find one. BUT.. I will say this. Mitch got RUINED by Chicago. IF josh is out for 2-4 games in a season I can expect Mitch will win half those games. That's why We have him. There is no ill illusion that he will be back next year but this is what he does bring. One of the most solid backups in the league. Future possible trade value. And IF Josh gets hurt winning 2-3 games out of 4 is much better then 0-1 out of 4. And what does Mitch get? Solid learning time behind a top 5 QB in this league to learn from A reset to take a step back and gather himself Goes to a solid organization to learn how things SHOULD BE. And come out looking brighter on the other side. And no I don't think you do get it.. This has little to do with the price tag and more to do with what I stated. By all means I feel he starts somewhere next year in a better place then Chicago. This is very much about Mitch reviving his career and us getting something for it. So if you agree to all of this and understand it. Then maybe then people will believe you "get it" EDITED. And IF you don't think Mitch is a potential starter then I will give you one insane fact. We may have the first and second best QB in the division. Edited March 19, 2021 by PrimeTime101 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Outstanding move by Beane and the Bills. Backup QB was a little discussed but nevertheless glaring need. Bills havent been as strong at the all important position since JK and FR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I miss the battles over Losman and Holcomb. I remember a thread in the mid-2000's on the now-defunct BBMB entitled something like: "Would you trade JP Losman for Tom Brady straight up?". And the poll associated with it was 50-50. Another poster there claimed Losman-Evans-McGahee were the next Kelly-Reed-Thomas. LOL! Edited March 19, 2021 by chongli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Hawaii sucks when you’re a loser. I can’t think of another place I’d rather be a loser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I like this move, it is a small upgrade over Barkley, the only real loss is Barkley in The locker room as he seemed to be beloved. I think you have to make this move but it would have been a down grade of on field talent to keep Barkley. Bills go from one of the lesser backup QB situations to a top 10 backup. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 hours ago, starrymessenger said: Outstanding move by Beane and the Bills. Backup QB was a little discussed but nevertheless glaring need. Bills havent been as strong at the all important position since JK and FR. Yea I talked about it and got trolled over it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Trubisky gonna get a thread longer than Allen's when he got drafted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 48 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I like this move, it is a small upgrade over Barkley, the only real loss is Barkley in The locker room as he seemed to be beloved. I think you have to make this move but it would have been a down grade of on field talent to keep Barkley. Bills go from one of the lesser backup QB situations to a top 10 backup. Not bad. Good lockerroom guys leave every week in the nfl. Barkley is certainly a good guy but man, is he overrated on this board. Do you really think it’s that hard to wear a backwards hat, fart and blame it on someone, and play video games with Josh? I think Mitch and Josh will be best bros. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 "OK time for the game to start" Hey former overall 1st round Mitch here is the clipboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: "OK time for the game to start" Hey former overall 1st round Mitch here is the clipboard #2 pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: #2 pick I stand corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 12:29 PM, Jauronimo said: You are just an object for my amusement. I play, you dance. So you're a bully? Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 12 hours ago, Boxcar said: Sad part is, this is probably true. Sometimes I do wonder what would have happened if the Bears ended up with Mahomes and the Chiefs with Trubisky. It really feels like the Bears are literally incapable of having a good QB since Jay Cutler. Like my mother used to say when we broke something, “that’s why we can’t have nice thing.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: So you're a bully? Got it. Go back and read that whole exchange before you embarrass yourself some more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 5 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Good lockerroom guys leave every week in the nfl. Barkley is certainly a good guy but man, is he overrated on this board. Do you really think it’s that hard to wear a backwards hat, fart and blame it on someone, and play video games with Josh? I think Mitch and Josh will be best bros. Locker room guys aren’t worthless. But I do agree that it is easily worth the upgrade at backup QB to take away a positive locker room influence. I loved Barkley but there is so much value that you can provide being a good locker room guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 18 hours ago, nucci said: You really think Beane would do this? We have re-signed all potential FAs that we wanted back and added a Punter and improved at backup QB. Yes, fans shouldn't worry about contracts....LOL.... what? My point is fans "should" worry about contracts. Every time you over pay market rate for any player you have less money to spend to make team better. Due to salary cap. Not sure what point you are making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 12 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Fans always over complicate things. How many times did we really miss out on game changing FAs? It’s even easier to get FAs when you win and have a qb. I hated they even tried to get Antonio Brown in the first place but I believed he would have come 100% if it was this year and he saw this version of Allen. Let’s drop this woe is me thought about Buffalo. It’s great place and amazing if you win. Hawaii sucks when you’re a loser. Ultimately, winning and money are the two biggest factors for most players. I stand behind the Buffalo effect comment. The Bills appear to have a dynamic QB and a chance to make a big run to the super bowl. However, let's get realistic here. Buffalo is a small market team with a city that can't compare to the likes of the bigger market teams. It's fair to say when all things are even a player will select the bigger splasher market team vs Buffalo. It's no coincidence that Buffalo hasn't landed many big time big name players. Of course other variables are in play. I guess maybe you can throw T. Owens out there If you dare. For me, it felt good to say the Buffalo effect in a positive light... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 15 hours ago, Sweats said: I cant root for a guy who's name sounds like an hor deourve, for christ's sakes....mitch trebisky anyone?....oh, you just have to try the trebisky. That from someone whose login alias is a illness symptom. You think Trebisky gets the Sweats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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