Tipster19 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 The guy is a playmaker and he would be a great addition, actually making a softer position for the Bills into a strength. This defense needs a player like Mosley, he could be the difference in making this defense formidable. 1 2 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Why would the Jets trade him to a division rival 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Not sure we'd pay that much for a backup, though. About a 99% chance we aren't one of those teams. We've got our starters, and while a few on here seem determined to whine, moan and speculate ridiculously, the FO likes them a lot. The last thing you'd do in a year where you're fighting cap tightness is throw out a starter you're very happy with and pay more for someone else. Mosley is a really really good player, even coming off an injury and an optout, he'd clearly cost a lot more than any sensible person would pay a backup. We've got our starters. Just doesn't make sense. Edited March 17, 2021 by Thurman#1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Why would the Jets trade him to a division rival Yeah, it's rare. Can only remember really old dudes being exchanged within the division, not really anybody like Mosley. I like the idea but can't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nato7412 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Why do we want him? We play almost always 2 lbs in our nickel defense which would be Edmunds and Milano and Klein is a capable backup. Mosley is always hurt too, the Jets are the one team who would trade him in the AFC East though 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, Nelius said: Yeah, it's rare. Can only remember really old dudes being exchanged within the division, not really anybody like Mosley. I like the idea but can't see it happening. It happens. But only when the offer from the division rival is far and away better than anyone else's. And I doubt Beane's offering a pick high enough to be far and away better than anyone else. Pats traded us Bledsoe - but we were the only one offering a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Zabka Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Not sure we'd pay that much for a backup, though. Mosley is infinitely better than Edmunds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I don't even think this trade would fly in Madden. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Zabka Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 With salary room becoming scarce one of the ways to improve this defense is for McBeane to swallow their pride and admit that Edmunds simply isnt a good MLB and replace him with someone better. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Remember the Jets spending spree in the 2019 off-season. LOL. They better hope Davis and Lawson turn out a little bit better. CJ Mosley - 5 years, 85 million Le'Veon Bell - 4 years, 52 million Jamison Crowder - 3 years, 28 million Henry Anderson - 3 years, 25 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Billy Zabka said: Mosley is infinitely better than Edmunds. Infinitely!! Wow, so he's essentially Thanos? If I assume he's better, we've now decided that we're going to upgrade every position, apparently? Gotcha. Who are we going after at QB? Aaron Rodgers? Or should we work on trading up for Trevor Lawrence? And after we get our new QB, who will we get for our #1 CB and #1 WR? 28 minutes ago, Billy Zabka said: With salary room becoming scarce one of the ways to improve this defense is for McBeane to swallow their pride and admit that Edmunds simply isnt a good MLB and replace him with someone better. Oh, another one of those guys who's smarter than McDermott and Beane. I didn't realize. Edited March 17, 2021 by Thurman#1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Remember the Jets spending spree in the 2019 off-season. LOL. They better hope Davis and Lawson turn out a little bit better. CJ Mosley - 5 years, 85 million Le'Veon Bell - 4 years, 52 million Jamison Crowder - 3 years, 28 million Henry Anderson - 3 years, 25 million A few looked bad even at the time. Man, that Bell deal was awful. Edited March 17, 2021 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Why the hell would we trade for Mosely with Milano and Edmunds??? This team has a couple gaping holes (CB, TE) but LB really isn't one of them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Yeah, he's a good player, but the Bills have other priorities. And man, the Jets would be idiotic to trade him to a division rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Zabka Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Infinitely!! Wow, so he's essentially Thanos? If I assume he's better, we've now decided that we're going to upgrade every position, apparently? Gotcha. Who are we going after at QB? Aaron Rodgers? Or should we work on trading up for Trevor Lawrence? And after we get our new QB, who will we get for our #1 CB and #1 WR? Oh, another one of those guys who's smarter than McDermott and Beane. I didn't realize. Lol...That is quite the leap. Because I feel CJ Mosely is a better LB than Edmunds which he clearly is, and want to improve the MLB position on the Bills because I feel we dont get good enough play, I therefore want to improve QB, #1CB, and #1WR where we get elite play. Gimme a break. I'm not even saying the Bills should trade for Mosley, its not feasible... just that he is better than Edmunds and we need to improve the play from the position. And just because I think they missed on Edmunds being a good MLB doesn't mean I think Im smarter than them. Another ridiculous statement. Oh another one of those McBeane nuthuggers who thinks they are infallible. I didnt realize. Edited March 17, 2021 by Billy Zabka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Billy Zabka said: Lol...That is quite the leap. Because I feel CJ Mosely is a better LB than Edmunds which he is, and want to improve the MLB position on the Bills because I feel we dont get good enough play, I therefore want to improve QB, #1CB, and #1WR where we get elite play. Gimme a break. And just because I think they missed on Edmunds being a good MLB doesn't mean I think Im smarter than them. Another ridiculous statement. Oh another one of those McBeane nuthuggers who thinks they are infallible. I didnt realize. The leap isn't big at all. You want to take the little money we have and improve at positions where we're already good enough, positions where we already have Pro Bowlers. Clearly that means we need to upgrade at all the positions where those less smart than you - Beane and McDermott, for instance - think we're fine. You came right out and said that the way to get better is to spend a lot of money upgrading a position where we have a Pro Bowler who McDermott and Beane are happy with. Of course, when I put it that way, it sounds ridiculous, right? Yeah, that's because it is ridiculous, what you said. The problem that you clearly do have isn't that you thought they missed. No, you have determined that they should "swallow their pride." That they need to "admit" you're right. 1 hour ago, Billy Zabka said: With salary room becoming scarce one of the ways to improve this defense is for McBeane to swallow their pride and admit that Edmunds simply isnt a good MLB and replace him with someone better. So, yeah, you do clearly think you're smarter. Edited March 17, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Zabka Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: The leap isn't big at all. You want to take the little money we have and improve at positions where we're already good enough, positions where we already have Pro Bowlers. Clearly that means we need to upgrade at all the positions where those less smart than you - Beane and McDermott, for instance - think we're fine. You came right out and said that the way to get better is to spend a lot of money upgrading a position where we have a Pro Bowler who McDermott and Beane are happy with. Of course, when I put it that way, it sounds ridiculous, right? Yeah, that's because it is ridiculous, what you said. The problem that you clearly do have isn't that you thought they missed. No, you have determined that they should "swallow their pride." That they need to "admit" you're right. So, yeah, you do clearly think you're smarter. Because I want to improve at MLB where we got disappointing play last year and average play the year before, I "clearly mean we need to upgrade at all pro Bowl positions" -- I guess there is no sense in debating someone who will twist things around like that. You realize that Edmunds making the Pro Bowl was laughable. Maybe you like MLB's who make few big plays, have poor instincts, miss a lot of tackles, but rack up big tackle numbers hugging guys down 7 yards past the line of scrimmage but I don't. And yeah sometimes teams take too long to move on from 1st round mistakes, especially when you trade up for them. Mcdermott is an elite coach and Beane an elite GM but Its ok to admit they make mistakes, that way you dont have to always hug their nuts and pretend Edmunds is a better linebacker than CJ Mosley like you do. Edited March 17, 2021 by Billy Zabka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Never happen in division nor does either party have an interest. The team likes Edmunds and Milano. Edmunds looked better in 2019 when Star was in front of him. He’s not the reincarnation of Ray Lewis. He’s a sideline to sideline athletic LB. I’m not getting into this non stop debate. Bottom line, I see Edmunds value, and doesn’t make sense to me going after a very expensive most likely LB in division when we have our two LBers who the team likes. If we could afford a difference making TE or Edge Rusher, yeah, but not a LBer. Have fun with this debate. I’m out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 He basically hasn't played in two years, has an albatross of a contract and his interest in actually playing football seems questionable. Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I love how people hate on Edmunds. He is much better than what everyone thinks. No he isn't Ray Lewis, admittedly Devin White is better than him already. So I get it he isn't the best MLB in the league, but he is above average with room to grow. I wouldn't kick him off for a guy that has showed no desire to play ball since he got paid, the Ravens let him walk for a reason. Mosley was also constantly hurt in college as well, his run with the Ravena was the only time he didn't have constant injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: I love how people hate on Edmunds. He is much better than what everyone thinks. No he isn't Ray Lewis, admittedly Devin White is better than him already. So I get it he isn't the best MLB in the league, but he is above average with room to grow. I wouldn't kick him off for a guy that has showed no desire to play ball since he got paid, the Ravens let him walk for a reason. Mosley was also constantly hurt in college as well, his run with the Ravena was the only time he didn't have constant injuries. Mosley missed 2 games in 4 years at Bama. He missed 3 games in 5 years with the ravens. He signed with the jets and was obviously cursed, got hurt in year 1. Opted out year 2. I don’t necessarily want Mosley, but talk about an exaggeration ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Isn’t he a quitter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Isn’t he a quitter ? Yes but we liked that he quit on the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, TBBills said: Yes but we liked that he quit on the Jets. he would do it to us too. It’s a no from me too pricey and doesn’t gaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 We could use a player with his skill set, but not him. Jets are not going to trade with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Tipster19 said: The guy is a playmaker and he would be a great addition, actually making a softer position for the Bills into a strength. This defense needs a player like Mosley, he could be the difference in making this defense formidable. What would of made this team formidable was a pass rusher havoc wreaker. Instead we opted to sign a 3rd/4th string Wr. Lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 The Bills have other needs than LB. This is moot anyway. No way the Jets trade him to a rival. If they did they would make the Bills pay thru the roof. Beane would probably laugh at their asking price anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 No one is taking that contract and I doubt he looks to restructure himself out of $$$. It was one of the worst deals I've seen in recent years. They'd also take a $27M+ cap hit. If they are dead set on getting rid of him it will be by release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Tipster you are putting the “broken clock” theory to the test… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 This SOB signed the highest contract for a MLB in the history....played 2 games since the signing. That’s $42.5 million per game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rk_Bills86 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I cannot imagine a world in which we would trade anything for CJ Mosely and consider it a good value. Let's look at this objectively: - what would we "trade" for him? - why would we trade for him? - is the upgrade really worth the cap hit? - considering he hasn't played in almost two years, where is here physically and mentally? - are there more pressing needs to be addressed? - if they are shopping him now, they will be shopping him later - what's the rush? - could his contract be any worse? If we want a Jet's ILB go out and get Neville Hewitt who actually played and did so at a decent enough level that he deserves middle of the road starter money somewhere (I'd gladly take him as depth on backup money here). This is not the most pressing area of need for us though and we should NOT trade for what can only be seen as a terrible contract that had unfortunate returns for the Jets due to unforeseeable circumstances. The last question is - What would you be willing to give up in this trade and how are you justifying it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Billy Zabka said: With salary room becoming scarce one of the ways to improve this defense is for McBeane to swallow their pride and admit that Edmunds simply isnt a good MLB and replace him with someone better. Yes, the Bills are going to release a two time pro-bowler and an individual they have touted as a core member of their defense. Not to mention have you looked at the cap impact of the moves you advocate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I too look at the return on investment that the Jets got on that over pay and say to myself: “how can we get a piece of that?! Sign me up!” People, by and large, are dumb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I really don’t care whether they sign Mosley but let me offer one thing here. Right now there’s a huge difference in the state of the Bills and Jets. I find it hard to believe that they care all that much about trading with the Bills. By the time the Jets would be competing on a serious level Mosley will already be gone or washed up. They have way more pressing issues right now than competing for the Division title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Southern_Bills said: I love how people hate on Edmunds. He is much better than what everyone thinks. No he isn't Ray Lewis, admittedly Devin White is better than him already. So I get it he isn't the best MLB in the league, but he is above average with room to grow. I wouldn't kick him off for a guy that has showed no desire to play ball since he got paid, the Ravens let him walk for a reason. Mosley was also constantly hurt in college as well, his run with the Ravena was the only time he didn't have constant injuries. Edmunds is the new whipping boy around here....when he's gone the new whipping boy will be Ed Oliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Mosely almost single-handedly beat the Bills in the 2019 opener. He's better than Edmunds but he's not coming here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Zabka Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Yes, the Bills are going to release a two time pro-bowler and an individual they have touted as a core member of their defense. Not to mention have you looked at the cap impact of the moves you advocate? Didnt say anything about bringing in Mosley just that he is a far superior player to Edmunds. Nor would I release Edmunds as there is no cap benefit to it. Id see about bringing in an inexpensive vet and maybe draft a guy in the second to 4th rd for competition in case edmunds doesnt improve and maybe give him some reps as an edge rusher. Edmunds was a liability last year despite his "Pro Bowl" nod. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: This SOB signed the highest contract for a MLB in the history....played 2 games since the signing. That’s $42.5 million per game! Actually, I believe they paid him $43M at the signing and another $10M in the form of a roster bonus for last year. Still, that's $26.5M per game. Insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Actually, I believe they paid him $43M at the signing and another $10M in the form of a roster bonus for last year. Still, that's $26.5M per game. Insane. Yeah I just took the total value of his contract divided by 2 games. New York does like bad contracts. Bobby Bonilla will get paid by the Mets until he's like 65. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 No one will trade for that bum. And if he gets released, I wouldn’t give him more than a close to minimum deal with lots of incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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