NewEra Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Apparently we think Sanders is a better WR for us to take the next step. Brown is a great guy - even keel, hard working, fast, gamer - tries to play through injuries. He's a very polished route runner and when healthy can separate if the coverage isn't too physical. He got completely erased in a number of games last season, and both 2019 and 2020 when it was on the line he missed some receptions he could have had. Even healthy, the writing seemed clear that physical CB play can take him out, especially if the zebras keep the laundry in their pockets Just a comment that I think when the dust settles, some of these 1 yr deals will be structured as 2 year deals to take some off the cap. Wouldn't surprise me. I hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: This is exactly what I think. The last couple of seasons when I've seen Sanders, I've been impressed by how savvy he is. He's the kind of guy a QB can rely to run the route he's supposed to run, to find the seem, to make the smart improvised route decision. He can still get deep, but not with the blazing speed he showed earlier in his career. I think he's a little less flashy than Brown, but a better route runner - a dependable guy. Like others, I still would like to see some true deep speed added to the roster. Sounds like you just described both Beasley and Diggs. This group is gonna kill it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 This years head scratcher like Norman last year. I just don’t get why you’d use these kind of resources on a 34 year old role player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Jpsredemption said: This years head scratcher like Norman last year. I just don’t get why you’d use these kind of resources on a 34 year old role player Because you don’t know enough about sanders. 👍🏻 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Wasn’t brown set to make over 9million? I’d say 3 million in savings in a down cap year is significant. Plus Sanders may be better and healthier. Good points. Brown was 8 mil. Brown was listed as 48 th best FA available while sanders was listed as 86 th best available. Analyst said might be a red flag or concerning that Saints were willing to let him go after just signing him. Plus side, he does have playoff and super bowl experience. Something to be said for making him the 3 rd wr option, but most don’t see him as a legit two now. I am not making a case for brown or sanders as I actually hoped we went after Samuels, Ertz, or someone more of a threat, so don’t come after me. Just pointing out perceived values by others. It does raise question why they couldn’t have asked Brown to get down to 6 mil but chose to not negotiate at all. Really means they were quite disappointed with his playoff performance x2 or injury is a big issue. Maybe we use extra pick fro lee to Atlanta to help acquire Ertz! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mat68 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: This years head scratcher like Norman last year. I just don’t get why you’d use these kind of resources on a 34 year old role player He was better Wr last year than brown. Sanders can do some of things Diggs did underneath last. Diggs can be used as the deep threat he is more often. Brown got bodied at the line. Sanders is still slippery underneath. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Going into his 13th season, not in his prime anymore but can definitely be productive. If anything, he's another good redzone threat & can provide some valuable experience & leadership to the WR corps. Still think we need someone to replace the sheer speed of John Brown, but love the signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, whatdrought said: you know that speed doesn’t just pop up randomly to be grabbed at your convenience.... Oh, I am aware. I know Curtis Samuel is close enough to it. Several draftees are too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I like the move. Sanders has been good for a long time. He has good hands and is reliable. I loved Smoke...but there were games he disappeared and was under contract for a lot more than Sanders. I trust Beane. He has a plan and is methodical. Nothing knee-jerk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Side Note: Can we just build that damn dome already? Seeing this QB throw to this group of WR's would be even more amazing if Josh didn't have to face the conditions so often. He can just sling it like no other indoors. Next step in FA, sign the DOME! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Going into his 13th season, not in his prime anymore but can definitely be productive. If anything, he's another good redzone threat & can provide some valuable experience & leadership to the WR corps. Still think we need someone to replace the sheer speed of John Brown, but love the signing. Check out his highlights. A pile of red zone TDs. Knows how to get separation without much room to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: I would imagine this comes in at maybe 3m for a one year? Can’t see much else. Either way, as it’s not Curtis Samuel, I hate it. Is this actually Ron Swanson? caus thats exactly how he'd say it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, NoSaint said: He’s not as good as brown, but he’s an nfl starter on the outside and we needed one. The stats say otherwise. Sanders has better numbers for most of his career which is why I call even. Truth is they both lost a step from their prime. Brown had only 2 seasons over 1,000 yds and 2 over 60 REC. Sanders has 3 over 1k and 7 seasons over 60 REC. That's a lot more production. 10 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: John Brown stats Edited March 17, 2021 by BillsRdue 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: The stats say otherwise. Sanders has better numbers for most of his career which is why I call even. Truth is they both lost a step from their prime. I like Brown, but I don't think this is a downgrade. John Brown stats having watched 100% of sanders snaps last year, I’m comfortable with my assessment sanders peak was excellent. Brown is still much closer to his ceiling though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: This years head scratcher like Norman last year. I just don’t get why you’d use these kind of resources on a 34 year old role player Except he is NOT Josh Norman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NoSaint said: having watched 100% of sanders snaps last year, I’m comfortable with my assessment sanders peak was excellent. Brown is still much closer to his ceiling though. Sanders also had Taysom Hill throwing to him and a watered down, injured and about to retire Brees. I think a Sanders will have a good year and open up things for Beas and Diggs. I do agree on watching his snaps this year. I had Sanders on my fantasy team and he disappointed. I never started him. Edited March 17, 2021 by BillsRdue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: This years head scratcher like Norman last year. I just don’t get why you’d use these kind of resources on a 34 year old role player Well, we played in a championship game and didn’t have a single healthy WR. We need like 2 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, ngbills said: I think this will be more $ than people think. This FO wanted him last year. They tend to have their favorites and go after them. I am betting $5-6M+ per. Fits a need though, but not my first choice. Now DE, TE, DT, CB... Well there you have it. Wish I was wrong. Decent amount of money to spend and would rather overpay for a bigger need like TE or DL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, purple haze said: Oh, I am aware. I know Curtis Samuel is close enough to it. Several draftees are too. Samuel’s speed is great, and I’d love to have him. He’ll probably get 2x the amount of Sanders. Draft is still an option for speed later (Tutu Atwell in the 3rd? Ihmir Smith-Marsett in the 5th?) but that’s potential speed and potential production. Sanders is a sure thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Sounds like you just described both Beasley and Diggs. This group is gonna kill it! As I think about it, Allen now has three receivers, each of whom Allen can depend on to be where he's supposed to be when he's supposed to be there, and three guys who are good at fighting for the ball. With Allen's escapability, I think the Bills have a better threesome than they had last season. Plus Davis with a season under his belt. Very nice. Only have them for a year, two years tops, but enjoy it while it lasts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Samuel’s speed is great, and I’d love to have him. He’ll probably get 2x the amount of Sanders. Draft is still an option for speed later (Tutu Atwell in the 3rd? Ihmir Smith-Marsett in the 5th?) but that’s potential speed and potential production. Sanders is a sure thing. I'm not mad they signed Sanders. He's a damn good football player. I'll take those any day. And he's not slow. But for what McD said at the end of the year I was expecting some Sudden Scoring Syndrome speed. Although, in the draft, at 30, if Etienne is there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Watch his highlights on Youtube with Saints and Brees. He looks very similar to a healthy John Brown. He is reliable and gets open like Brown/Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Going to be sincerely pissed if Fuller or Samuel sign for similar money and we miss out for a 34yr old, never has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 43 minutes ago, DrPJax said: Good points. Brown was 8 mil. Brown was listed as 48 th best FA available while sanders was listed as 86 th best available. Analyst said might be a red flag or concerning that Saints were willing to let him go after just signing him. Plus side, he does have playoff and super bowl experience. Something to be said for making him the 3 rd wr option, but most don’t see him as a legit two now. I am not making a case for brown or sanders as I actually hoped we went after Samuels, Ertz, or someone more of a threat, so don’t come after me. Just pointing out perceived values by others. It does raise question why they couldn’t have asked Brown to get down to 6 mil but chose to not negotiate at all. Really means they were quite disappointed with his playoff performance x2 or injury is a big issue. Maybe we use extra pick fro lee to Atlanta to help acquire Ertz! Your point remains but I believe Brown was set to make 9.6ish. We saved about 8 million and now have a 1.6 million dead cap. So we affectively saved two million by swapping them. However, Brown would have made over 9 had he stayed. what was the pick for Lee Smith? Amazing we got anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Process said: Mehhh. He's 33 yo. I think we should have waited to see what happens with all these good wideouts that have yet to sign. A guy like Fuller may not end up getting any good long term offers and may have been willing to sign a one year deal. Why rush to sign a guy like Sanders with so many options still out there?? With that said, we needed a WR, and he's not a terrible option. I always thought he was a stud and underrated. But at 33 those days are behind him. Because Sanders is a better route runner that can get open, more so than Fuller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabreality Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Some terrible takes in this thread but not surprised. Can play inside or outside, great route runner, physical, can get off the line and contest catches. Has a great baller mentality and won't shy away from anybody, great fit to this group. A pros pro who adds value to this offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2021/03/bills-stefon-diggs-reacts-to-emmanuel-sanders-joining-team.html Diggs digs it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Jokeman Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Going to be sincerely pissed if Fuller or Samuel sign for similar money and we miss out for a 34yr old, never has been. And Fuller and Samuel have proven what so far? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Milanos Milano Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yep. Sanders is a better WR than Agholor. I will take Sanders for that price any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: And Fuller and Samuel have proven what so far? Well statistically they have both out performed Sanders in virtually every way since they entered the league vs what he has done in the same time frame.. Just now, IronMaidenBills said: Yep. Sanders is a better WR than Agholor. I will take Sanders for that price any day of the week. Dawson Knox has better hands than Agholor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I hadn’t realized that Sanders and Beasley were college teammates at SMU. Sanders should be a seamless fit in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, DCofNC said: Well statistically they have both out performed Sanders in virtually every way since they entered the league vs what he has done in the same time frame.. Have they won a super bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JGMcD2 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Well statistically they have both out performed Sanders in virtually every way since they entered the league vs what he has done in the same time frame.. Uhhh this isn’t actually true... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, aristocrat said: Have they won a super bowl? Has Josh Allen? Oh, so by your logic, Blaine Gabbert is better because he has a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Going to be sincerely pissed if Fuller or Samuel sign for similar money and we miss out for a 34yr old, never has been. The never has been who went to two Pro Bowls and won a Super Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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