Breaking: Daryl Williams signs 3 year extension

[Stank_Nasty]

5 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Bengals fans were hoping to sign Williams this off season:

 

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Daryl-Williams-Re-signs-with-Bills

 

And it's always fun to read a take on the Bills like this from another fan base:

 

Yep, hurts for us Bengal fans, for sure.  However, can you really blame the guy for wanting to stay with the Bills?  They have one of the most rabid ban bases in football, in Bills Mafia.  They have a good team, with what looks like a potential future All-Pro in Allen at QB, they made noise in the playoffs, and are doing their level best to keep the band together.

Meanwhile, you have the Bengals.  The Bengals missed their sweet spot with 5 straight playoff appearances, their chance to get noticed and command respect from Big Market USA.  The team that was, is now diminished and pretty much starting from scratch with a new franchise QB, and a handful of younger, talented players.  

If I hadn't been a Bengal fan my whole life, it would be really tough to not love the Bills, as a new football fan.

Dudes got one thing wrong. Allen isn’t a “potential future all pro”. He’s ALREADY earned that nod.... good find though. thanks for sharing. 

[GunnerBill]

21 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Dudes got one thing wrong. Allen isn’t a “potential future all pro”. He’s ALREADY earned that nod.... good find though. thanks for sharing. 

 

He has already earned 2nd team all pro to be 100% accurate. 

[Thurman#1]

12 hours ago, DCOrange said:

Joe B's mock offseason is in shambles

 

 

Yours is perfect so far?

 

Mine sure isn't. Not that I put in anywhere near as much detail as Joe B did.

[JMF2006]

Good work Mr. Beane you have been a busy man

[Rochesterfan]

4 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

He was a free agent so it is not an extension.

 

Well to be fair - FA has not started yet - so he was still a Bill with an expiring contract.  It is not a typical extension that adds on to the remaining years, but it was completed while still under contract and without the details maybe that’s the way they worded it.

 

I agree the wording is sketchy, but I can understand the decision to call it an extension.  I mean even the Bills Twitter calls it an extension.

 

 

Edited March 13, 2021 by Rochesterfan

[Warcodered]

 

[Aussie Joe]

I want to thank Beane..

 

 

 

 

[Chandler#81]

10 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Bengals fans were hoping to sign Williams this off season:

 

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Daryl-Williams-Re-signs-with-Bills

 

And it's always fun to read a take on the Bills like this from another fan base:

 

Yep, hurts for us Bengal fans, for sure.  However, can you really blame the guy for wanting to stay with the Bills?  They have one of the most rabid ban bases in football, in Bills Mafia.  They have a good team, with what looks like a potential future All-Pro in Allen at QB, they made noise in the playoffs, and are doing their level best to keep the band together.

Meanwhile, you have the Bengals.  The Bengals missed their sweet spot with 5 straight playoff appearances, their chance to get noticed and command respect from Big Market USA.  The team that was, is now diminished and pretty much starting from scratch with a new franchise QB, and a handful of younger, talented players.  

If I hadn't been a Bengal fan my whole life, it would be really tough to not love the Bills, as a new football fan.

Thank you. Love seeing other teams fanboards -especially when they’re filled with intelligent, insightful perspectives. 

No Gang Green, I don’t mean you.

[billsfan_34]

17 hours ago, appoo said:

Personally I think it's easier to find a starting guard at 30 than finding a starting EDGE rusher. So I would vote to let Feliciano go,, cut Addison, restructure Hughes + Star. Use Kumerow/Duke/Stills as your replacement for Brown on the roster (Gabe Davis is your #2). Use that 10M in cap savings to find a F/A EDGE, draft a starting guard, a DE/3T tweener, a slot corner, a speedy WR, and a TE.

 

Unfortunately TE is likely going to go unanswered this offseason. Think EDGE is more pressing.

 

You could actually snag Friermuth at 30, trade up into the 2nd round and grab a starting RG there.

Your logic with guard and edge is really spot on. Letting Feliciano go with Morse’s concussion history may be a huge mistake. We did not miss a beat when John slid to center. You just cannot put a price tag on a versatile o-lineman that can play anywhere in the interior, at a high level. See Baltimore and the struggles they had at center. We cannot do that to JA.

 

 

[Don Otreply]

7 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

So you are saying he should be mocked.

Isn’t that why they are called “mock” drafts, ? 
 

they are wrong at a rate pushing 100% of the time, 😁👍

[BarleyNY]

Great value if it’s a 3 year deal at just over $28M as I’ve read.  He clearly wants to be here.  Awesome. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

10 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

Well.  GM of an NFL franchise is a pretty cool job.  

It is, but why do they walk around the field on game day like they're Secret Service. Lol. 

[Coach Tuesday]

This is a bargain contract.

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

Isn’t that why they are called “mock” drafts, ? 
 

they are wrong at a rate pushing 100% of the time, 😁👍

 

I have never seen a mock I liked. I have gone out with relatives who are vegetarians and liked mock duck however.

 

 

[CincyBillsFan]

8 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Dudes got one thing wrong. Allen isn’t a “potential future all pro”. He’s ALREADY earned that nod.... good find though. thanks for sharing. 

 

I had the exact same reaction.  But for Bengal's fans down here in Cincinnati their take on Allen is based on the late explosion he had on Prime Time and the playoffs.  So they're a but behind the curve.  The football talk radio guys down here routinely mention Allen and "elite" in the same breadth.  They say that for the Bengals to have a shot in the AFC Burrow has to develop into an elite level QB like Mahomes, Allen & Jackson.

 

As an aside, Lamar Jackson has absolutely destroyed the Bengals so you won't get many folks in Cincy throwing out that he isn't an elite passer.  In the AFC North they know he'll be a headache for years to come.  Then if the Bengals can get out of the Division they have to tangle with Mahomes & Allen.  So in their minds everything depends on Burrow.

 

 

 

 

[ganesh]

wow.  our  bookend tackles under contract for next three seasons.  

 

Now they have to find some cheaper talent for the LG position and hope Cody Ford will be back at the RG position

[BillsFan4]

16 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm sure Ford will get a chance to compete for a spot, but what about Ike Boettger?  They seem to really like him.

 

But if they do bring Boettger back, perhaps it's Ford/Boettger at LG and Feliciano/draft pick at RG?

 

I forgot about him! I believe he’s only an RFA too, correct?
 

hmm I wonder if maybe they think about letting Feliciano walk then, if they can’t bring him back on a reasonably cheap deal (meaning a deal they could still justify if he doesn’t end up starting).

 

I know they love the toughness/nastiness he brings to the o line, and the versatility to play C. But I thought he struggled at times last season (though I’m not really a very good judge of o line play). 
 

 

[Doc]

20 minutes ago, ganesh said:

wow.  our  bookend tackles under contract for next three seasons.  

 

Now they have to find some cheaper talent for the LG position and hope Cody Ford will be back at the RG position

He played the last 5 games last year at LG. I think that’s where they want him. And now that the RT experiment is over, he can concentrate solely at that position. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

33 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

I forgot about him! I believe he’s only an RFA too, correct?
 

hmm I wonder if maybe they think about letting Feliciano walk then, if they can’t bring him back on a reasonably cheap deal (meaning a deal they could still justify if he doesn’t end up starting).

 

I know they love the toughness/nastiness he brings to the o line, and the versatility to play C. But I thought he struggled at times last season (though I’m not really a very good judge of o line play).

 

It was clear he struggled last season, and the struggles seemed (to what I saw) more related to reaction speed and foot speed than directly to his shoulder and pec injuries.  But it's possible that the injury prevented off-season work that would have helped there, or that his pain control regime slowed his reactions down.  I think the team voting him the Ed Block Courage award implies that he was going through some stuff with that injury that really affected him and they all knew it.

 

I would like to see the Bills bring Feliciano back because I think it's a huge risk not to go "belt and suspenders" careful that you have a good OL.  We know Feliciano can fill in capably across the interior, including at C.  If we have Boettger and Ford competing at LG and Feliciano and a rookie competing at RG with Bates and Adams as the backup Tackles and Devey as the backup guard (he looks like a tackle, but he's listed as a guard) that seems like a plan to me. 

 

I frankly don't have faith in Ford at this point that he can overcome injuries and stay healthy to play at a high level in the NFL.

 

But maybe they like Bates at center and Devey at guard enough that they feel they can compete with a rookie and and a capable vet they pick up at a lower price tag.

 

I don't think that's "enough" for the most important position group on the team since they enable both the run game and the pass game to work....but I also admit that "Good is the Enemy of Great" and you can't improve by keeping everything the same.

[BADOLBILZ]

15 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I can't see them spending big money in FA or even a high draft pick on a WR with Diggs and Beasley as your #1 and slot and Davis looking ready to take the #2 spot.  Signing a guy like Samuel or drafting one high just pushes Davis down the depth chart.

 

 

 

Samuel is versatile enough to play any of the WR positions and long term he's probably most dangerous from the slot.   Beasley is in his walk year and has battled injuries.......Samuel would be the successor there in 2022.   He would also become the Bills most dangerous RB option out of the backfield.    He's a real RB too.......and legitimately 4.3 fast........not like "fast for a RB" guys like Etienne who people want to spend a high draft pick on.    And his #'s as a deep ball receiver are excellent so yeah he can bounce out and play the X or Z.

 

Davis is a good young player but he put enough bad things on tape this year and I have seen enough sophomore slumps that I would definitely not be pleased with him as WR1 or WR2 if Beasley or Diggs had to miss some time.    He was great as "who was that guy" #4.......but in such a passing dominant league you actually need a 4th guy who is at least that good if you want to consistently win matchups against loaded secondaries.   Think Josh Reed falling off after Peerless Price left as an example of how it could go.   The difference between drawing the 3rd or 4th DB and the 2nd one is huge.

 

Adding any healthy UFA who was good in 2020 might be a moot point now because by not cutting Addison and by signing a guy with a long injury history in Milano........therefore requiring a shorter term deal.......they have about $6M-$8M less in cap space than if they had just cut Addison and signed JJ Watt to the Arizona deal(for example) instead of inking Milano.   That would have left enough to secure Samuel in year 1 of a 5 year deal and still get Williams for his short 3 year, first year $6M deal without yet having to reach into re-structured deals with guys like White and Dawkins yet.

 

[ColoradoBills]

8 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Well to be fair - FA has not started yet - so he was still a Bill with an expiring contract.  It is not a typical extension that adds on to the remaining years, but it was completed while still under contract and without the details maybe that’s the way they worded it.

 

I agree the wording is sketchy, but I can understand the decision to call it an extension.  I mean even the Bills Twitter calls it an extension.

 

 

 

Technically upcoming FAs are still under contract until the first day of the new league year.

So it's considered an extension.  That's why they can't sign with another team until that day while cut players become FAs immediately

and can sign with other teams.

Ultimately it really doesn't matter.

[Fan in Chicago]

We have now locked in both tackles and C. The situation with guards is still fluid but we cannot go into next season with the same plan as this year. There has to better run blocking as the scheme won't change with Daboll continuing as OC. I don't see Beane spending a pick on another RB till late in the draft..

So the options are Feliciano and Ford as G . But a lot depends on the coaching staff a belief in Ford. If his struggles wee due to injury and changing positions, then they may ride with these two. But I would like to add a road grader G/C in FA or high in the draft. We better have a plan for balanced O next season and not depend on Allen to always come up with magic. The playoffs showed that the strategy will only take you so far. 

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said:

We have now locked in both tackles and C. The situation with guards is still fluid but we cannot go into next season with the same plan as this year. There has to better run blocking as the scheme won't change with Daboll continuing as OC. I don't see Beane spending a pick on another RB till late in the draft..

So the options are Feliciano and Ford as G . But a lot depends on the coaching staff a belief in Ford. If his struggles wee due to injury and changing positions, then they may ride with these two. But I would like to add a road grader G/C in FA or high in the draft. We better have a plan for balanced O next season and not depend on Allen to always come up with magic. The playoffs showed that the strategy will only take you so far. 

 

It's probably a bit of "wishful thinking" on my part but it was obvious that last years reduced camp was spent almost completely

on Josh and the passing game.  I'm sure this year the running game will get a fair amount of attention.

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

It's probably a bit of "wishful thinking" on my part but it was obvious that last years reduced camp was spent almost completely

on Josh and the passing game.  I'm sure this year the running game will get a fair amount of attention.

I have to agree. I find it hard to believe that the Bills cannot improve their run blocking with some hard work, and maybe some new coaching. They’re in good shape with their Tackles and Center for a while now. Let’s see if it’s personnel or scheme to open some holes in the middle gaps. Last year our RBs were constantly heading smack dab into a wall where a hole should have been.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 hour ago, ganesh said:

wow.  our  bookend tackles under contract for next three seasons.  

 

Now they have to find some cheaper talent for the LG position and hope Cody Ford will be back at the RG position

It could be Boettger. 

[CincyBillsFan]

7 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

We have now locked in both tackles and C. The situation with guards is still fluid but we cannot go into next season with the same plan as this year. There has to better run blocking as the scheme won't change with Daboll continuing as OC. I don't see Beane spending a pick on another RB till late in the draft..

So the options are Feliciano and Ford as G . But a lot depends on the coaching staff a belief in Ford. If his struggles wee due to injury and changing positions, then they may ride with these two. But I would like to add a road grader G/C in FA or high in the draft. We better have a plan for balanced O next season and not depend on Allen to always come up with magic. The playoffs showed that the strategy will only take you so far. 

 

I could also see them standing pat at guard. They may conclude that they're good enough and they actually have decent depth at the position.   This would allow them to focus resources on more pressing needs:  D-line, TE and RB.

 

 

[Coach Tuesday]

14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Yea...I don’t understand fans who think we are set at WR and dont need to invest.... even with the Brown release.....they are essentially one Diggs injury away from bottom of the barrel unit again. 
 

They should take a WR within their first 3 picks assuming a good prospect is there if they don’t have a shot at Samuel now.

Pretty sure that’s their plan.

Edited March 14, 2021 by Coach Tuesday

[ganesh]

8 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

We have now locked in both tackles and C. The situation with guards is still fluid but we cannot go into next season with the same plan as this year. There has to better run blocking as the scheme won't change with Daboll continuing as OC. I don't see Beane spending a pick on another RB till late in the draft..

So the options are Feliciano and Ford as G . But a lot depends on the coaching staff a belief in Ford. If his struggles wee due to injury and changing positions, then they may ride with these two. But I would like to add a road grader G/C in FA or high in the draft. We better have a plan for balanced O next season and not depend on Allen to always come up with magic. The playoffs showed that the strategy will only take you so far. 

I am not sure if they can afford or pay another FA contract for the OL.  Feliciano will be outside looking in  as far as Bills are concerned with FA.   They will get one of the low end FA or a mid round draft pick,  I am not sure Feliciano contract requirement will now fit the BIlls budget for 2021

[smuvtalker]

Eff it, I'll go ahead and admit it, I feel like I'm amongst family here...

 

I have a man crush on Brandon Beane dammit....

 

LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!!  

[billieve420]

2 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

I could also see them standing pat at guard. They may conclude that they're good enough and they actually have decent depth at the position.   This would allow them to focus resources on more pressing needs:  D-line, TE and RB.

 

 

They should draft a C/G prospect to play Guard year 1 and take over at Center for Morse in another year or 2.

[SCBills]

3 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Yea...I don’t understand fans who think we are set at WR and dont need to invest.... even with the Brown release.....they are essentially one Diggs injury away from bottom of the barrel unit again. 
 

They should take a WR within their first 3 picks assuming a good prospect is there if they don’t have a shot at Samuel now.

I would be utterly shocked if we don’t get a FA WR or draft one in the first 3 rounds. 
 

Once Brown got released, I’ve just figured we’ll bring in a WR who’s either younger and/or cheaper. 

[Fan in Chicago]

4 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

I could also see them standing pat at guard. They may conclude that they're good enough and they actually have decent depth at the position.   This would allow them to focus resources on more pressing needs:  D-line, TE and RB.

 

 

Bills cannot go into the next season with the same OL and RBs and expect different results. Unless the brass believes in Ford at G will be the difference. I am not convinced. A C/G option has to be added . 

4 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

I could also see them standing pat at guard. They may conclude that they're good enough and they actually have decent depth at the position.   This would allow them to focus resources on more pressing needs:  D-line, TE and RB.

 

 

What's the basis to believe that they are good enough? What exactly will change next season with the same personnel on the OL? Of course they need help on D line, TE . Probably not at RB if the OL changes . 

[Aussie Joe]

4 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Bills cannot go into the next season with the same OL and RBs and expect different results. 

Id sign up for 13-3 again...

[Fan in Chicago]

7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Id sign up for 13-3 again...

I meant in the playoffs but teams next season will pick up on the Bills offensive struggles in the playoffs. We have to keep progressing and morphing else that same record won't be possible

[Doc]

9 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Bills cannot go into the next season with the same OL and RBs and expect different results. Unless the brass believes in Ford at G will be the difference. I am not convinced. A C/G option has to be added . 

What's the basis to believe that they are good enough? What exactly will change next season with the same personnel on the OL? Of course they need help on D line, TE . Probably not at RB if the OL changes . 

Continuity is big. Putting/developing Ford now solely at LG should help his development.  Ideally they find a better RG, but Feliciano being healthy going into the season should also be a big help.

[JaCrispy]

49 minutes ago, Doc said:

Continuity is big. Putting/developing Ford now solely at LG should help his development.  Ideally they find a better RG, but Feliciano being healthy going into the season should also be a big help.

I would love to see them draft Tevin Jenkins and put him at RG...perfect blend of power and athletic ability imo...

Edited March 14, 2021 by JaCrispy

[JMF2006]

So if Chevy plays LG does Boat Anchor go back to the bench?

 

Why not leave Boat Anchor at LG and put Chevy at RG?

 

He played on the right side 2 years ago at RT

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

So if Chevy plays LG does Boat Anchor go back to the bench?

 

Why not leave Boat Anchor at LG and put Chevy at RG?

 

He played on the right side 2 years ago at RT

Ford started at LG the last 5 games he played last year. Considering Feliciano was out for those games, I think that’s where they want to keep him.

[CincyBillsFan]

10 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Bills cannot go into the next season with the same OL and RBs and expect different results. Unless the brass believes in Ford at G will be the difference. I am not convinced. A C/G option has to be added . 

What's the basis to believe that they are good enough? What exactly will change next season with the same personnel on the OL? Of course they need help on D line, TE . Probably not at RB if the OL changes . 

 

I agree that we can't stand pat at RB. 

 

I'm of the opinion that the problem with our running game has more to do with the RB's then the O linemen.  So given the limited remaining budget and a desperate need for an edge rusher my logic says focus on upgrading RB while keeping our fingers crossed that Ford and the current Guards can combine to get the job done. It might also be more economical to get a better blocking TE or H Back to help the running game then upgrading the guard position.

 

For me the prioritization is simple:  Edge Rusher then Defensive Tackle then RB then TE then Guard.  By the time we get to guard I doubt we can pick up someone better then what we already have.

 

 

 

11 hours ago, billieve420 said:

They should draft a C/G prospect to play Guard year 1 and take over at Center for Morse in another year or 2.

I'm all for drafting a Guard in rounds 2 - 6 if the right guy is there.  But I don't trust putting a rookie in a Super Bowl contenders interior O line unless we have to because of injury. 

 

 

[Punching Bag]

20 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Bills cannot go into the next season with the same OL and RBs and expect different results. Unless the brass believes in Ford at G will be the difference. I am not convinced. A C/G option has to be added . 

 

The Bills may believe that the line will improve in training camp and preseason which they did not get to have will improve running game.

Have invested in Quittin' Spain who was not able to keep starting position against Cody Ford and Brian Winters.

 

They also will have a potentially easier schedule (although will not help in playoffs) and hopefully less injuries.