Process Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Dolphins and jets are in such great positions to make a move with the draft picks they have. Good chance he ends up in the AFCE. Edited January 28, 2021 by Process 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Live look at Bill OBrien as he attempts to get a job with Watson's new team Edited January 28, 2021 by DJB 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 please go to San Fran, please go to San Fran, please go to San Fran.😬 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I see four realistic possibilities. Jets, Dolphins, 49ers, Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I have a feeling we'll be seeing him twice a year for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Process said: Dolphins and jets are in such great positions to make a move with the draft picks they have. Good chance he ends up in the AFCE. Bring him on. So Tua gives you the extra 2 years of control... but Darnold has typically done some more impressive stuff on the football team. Either one is coming with pick #2 or #3. And considering the 20M you have to eat in cap space, i'd ask for more. I'd start the bidding with 3 1sts and a QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, WhoTom said: I have a feeling we'll be seeing him twice a year for a while. Yep. Miami. Nice job Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, dneveu said: So Tua gives you the extra 2 years of control... but Darnold has typically done some more impressive stuff on the football team. Either one is coming with pick #2 or #3. And considering the 20M you have to eat in cap space, i'd ask for more. I'd start the bidding with 3 1sts and a QB. Why take a QB? If you are getting #2 or #3 you don't need to. Pick your own rather than taking a reclamation project that is gonna be almost impossible to sell to your already furious fanbase. For me 3 #1 picks plus either two #3s or a #2 and a #4 is about where I'd pitch the price. Should say if I am trading with the 9ers or Panthers I do want their QB as part of the deal because I am probably out of position to draft one. Edited January 28, 2021 by GunnerBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/wild-hypothetical-deshaun-watson-49ers-trade-proposed-bill-barnwell I thought this was interesting. Jets keep #2 and get Jimmy G to run the shanahan style offense. Can still draft a QB at 2, and not deal with darnold drama. Just now, GunnerBill said: Why take a QB? If you are getting #2 or #3 you don't need to. Pick your own rather than taking a reclamation project that is gonna be almost impossible to sell to your already furious fanbase. For me 3 #1 picks plus either two #3s or a #2 and a #4 is about where I'd pitch the price. Maybe throw a 3rd team in like denver? Maximize the value you get for the tua/darnold piece. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just saw this, it really sucks the Jets and Phins have pick #2/#3 along with extra first and 2nd rounders. It would be stupid to trade him in the conference, but its the Texans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Process said: Dolphins and jets are in such great positions to make a move with the draft picks they have. Good chance he ends up in the AFCE. Bring him on. We know they don't have to trade him, right? 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Houston's dysfunctional ownership continues to screw up the league, and it disproportionately affects Buffalo. To recap: 1) Trades 2 #1st to Miami for Tunsil, giving the Dolphins a top-five pick; Tunsil wasn't extended in advance, giving players in a similar position additional negotiating leverage. 2) Trades Hopkins for peanuts; Hopkins single-handedly beats Buffalo in 2020 3) Hires David Culley instead of Leslie Frazier, giving extra draft capital to the best GM in football 4) Likely trades a top-five QB in his prime to the AFC East 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: We know they don't have to trade him, right? We do. This is not game over for Houston but it is getting pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I’ve heard of him. Get it done beane / Really hope he doesn’t stay in AFC especially the east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Not at the table Karlos said: I’ve heard of him. Get it done beane / Really hope he doesn’t stay in AFC especially the east I mean, that could be a negotiation with him. He has a no trade clause, but i might say - we'll do what we can to move you. Whats the NFC list look like? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Houston's dysfunctional ownership continues to screw up the league, and it disproportionately affects Buffalo. To recap: 1) Trades 2 #1st to Miami for Tunsil, giving the Dolphins a top-five pick; Tunsil wasn't extended in advance, giving players in a similar position additional negotiating leverage. 2) Trades Hopkins for peanuts; Hopkins single-handedly beats Buffalo in 2020 3) Hires David Culley instead of Leslie Frazier, giving extra draft capital to the best GM in football 4) Likely trades a top-five QB in his prime to the AFC East I can not disagree with this assessment. You have to hand it to John Harbaugh for doing a hell of a sales pitch to get a job for a guy (his pass game coordinator) that a quality assessment of their passing game might have suggested they should move on from anyway. I thought Miami played Houston for suckers in the Tunsil trade as did Arizona. If Houston keeps this up by tamely acceding to Watson's trade requests IMO it will be proof their ownership hasn't learned anything. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 If I'm Atlanta, I'm trying to figure out how to move worlds to get this done. Bonus to us, taking him out of the AFC, and especially the AFC East. But I dont think they have the resources to compete with the Jets and Dolphins. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Why take a QB? If you are getting #2 or #3 you don't need to. Pick your own rather than taking a reclamation project that is gonna be almost impossible to sell to your already furious fanbase. For me 3 #1 picks plus either two #3s or a #2 and a #4 is about where I'd pitch the price. Should say if I am trading with the 9ers or Panthers I do want their QB as part of the deal because I am probably out of position to draft one. Well, there is the point that roughly 2/3 of even first round draft picks don't work out, and some need a bit of time to adjust. And some break their leg or tear their ACL or something So a backup plan who has showed some ability to play on an NFL football field is not the worst notion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 why would he possibly not want to play for them anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I think Houston tells him to pick few NFC team as options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: If I'm Atlanta, I'm trying to figure out how to move worlds to get this done. Bonus to us, taking him out of the AFC, and especially the AFC East. But I dont think they have the resources to compete with the Jets and Dolphins. They play the AFCE this year though... even if just to avoid the really bad optics in likely a punted season it might be worth it. Nobody knows who's on his list other than supposedly miami and the jets. I'd imagine SF, maybe LA rams, maybe LV. Who really knows. Getting pick 2 or 3 is nice. But you're probably getting pick 1-3 next season if you went 4-12 WITH watson, i can only imagine the next year or 2 without him, and without a ton of talent. So if i'm punting on 2021 (and probably 2022) - Just give me lots of picks and get the guy out of conference if i can avoid it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: why would he possibly not want to play for them anymore? Well... *gestures broadly at everything* 3 minutes ago, dneveu said: They play the AFCE this year though... even if just to avoid the really bad optics in likely a punted season it might be worth it. Nobody knows who's on his list other than supposedly miami and the jets. I'd imagine SF, maybe LA rams, maybe LV. Who really knows. Getting pick 2 or 3 is nice. But you're probably getting pick 1-3 next season if you went 4-12 WITH watson, i can only imagine the next year or 2 without him, and without a ton of talent. So if i'm punting on 2021 (and probably 2022) - Just give me lots of picks and get the guy out of conference if i can avoid it. I hope so, but I think you might be giving the smooth brains in the texans org too much credit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, dneveu said: They play the AFCE this year though... even if just to avoid the really bad optics in likely a punted season it might be worth it. Nobody knows who's on his list other than supposedly miami and the jets. I'd imagine SF, maybe LA rams, maybe LV. Who really knows. Getting pick 2 or 3 is nice. But you're probably getting pick 1-3 next season if you went 4-12 WITH watson, i can only imagine the next year or 2 without him, and without a ton of talent. So if i'm punting on 2021 (and probably 2022) - Just give me lots of picks and get the guy out of conference if i can avoid it. This is a good point. This is why a team like SF makes a lot of sense. They can part with a few high picks over the next few years and give you a viable starter in Jimmy G so it doesn't look like a complete tank SF with Watson absolutely goes back to the Super Bowl. That easily makes them the best team in the NFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Well Culley 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, billsherd said: I think Houston tells him to pick few NFC team as options. Don't know if they have what it takes to make the trade but the Saints should be all over this. Brees is done and they have a strong team . They get Watson they are the favored to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Guess he doesn’t like the HC choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 🤦🏼♂️ Houston should just fold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: If I'm Atlanta, I'm trying to figure out how to move worlds to get this done. Bonus to us, taking him out of the AFC, and especially the AFC East. But I dont think they have the resources to compete with the Jets and Dolphins. Yup. A sensible trade would be Darnold, the #2 overall pick, and the #34 pick. I still think Darnold has real potential and upside. They don't have picks in the first two rounds, and they have a bad cap situation. Rookie contracts are a quick solution to that problem. As for the Jets, they'd still have the 27th, 66th, 91st, 98th, 130th, and 138th picks. That's 6 picks in the first five rounds, and they have the ammo to move up if there's a player they really want. They also have a TON of cap space - over $60 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 IMO, Houston shouldn't trade him. Tell him to play...or sit out. 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Houston's dysfunctional ownership continues to screw up the league, and it disproportionately affects Buffalo. To recap: 1) Trades 2 #1st to Miami for Tunsil, giving the Dolphins a top-five pick; Tunsil wasn't extended in advance, giving players in a similar position additional negotiating leverage. 2) Trades Hopkins for peanuts; Hopkins single-handedly beats Buffalo in 2020 3) Hires David Culley instead of Leslie Frazier, giving extra draft capital to the best GM in football 4) Likely trades a top-five QB in his prime to the AFC East DeCosta is the best GM in football? Not sure about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I see four realistic possibilities. Jets, Dolphins, 49ers, Carolina. I would add the Lions to the list and possibly Atlanta if they really want to shake things up... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, RiotAct said: 🤦🏼♂️ Houston should just fold. Wait until they trade Watt too. There will be a million fan march when they get rid of both Watson and JJ after trading Nuk last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Greg S said: Don't know if they have what it takes to make the trade but the Saints should be all over this. Brees is done and they have a strong team . They get Watson they are the favored to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl next year. Doubt this happens, The Saints are 100 million over the cap and adding his contract would be killer. Would have to cut a ton of players. Not to mention all their picks are late in each round. Keeping him out of the AFC East would be great though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: IMO, Houston shouldn't trade him. Tell him to play...or sit out. That's not going to happen. He's gone, and he has the ability to force the trade. He has a ton of value, and the Texans can get a ton for him. Cutting off your nose to spite your face isn't a great strategy, especially in a not-for-long league with a new coach/GM who will be given a grace period because it's a new start. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 You have to think as excited as Phins and Jets fans must be now, they must also be terrified about losing out and him landing at the other spot and having to play Allen and Watson 4 times a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I would add the Lions to the list and possibly Atlanta if they really want to shake things up... The Jets have the draft ammo, a tradeable young QB who still has promise, and the cap space. They make too much sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, there is the point that roughly 2/3 of even first round draft picks don't work out, and some need a bit of time to adjust. And some break their leg or tear their ACL or something So a backup plan who has showed some ability to play on an NFL football field is not the worst notion. I get that but the Texans have very little on that roster. If I get #2 or #3 I am picking one of those 3 QBs that are not Lawrence and then maximising my capital to try and put stuff around him. So basically I want picks instead of Tua or Darnold. If my QB gets hurt? Well I will just be like most NFL franchises when their QB goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 31 minutes ago, Process said: Dolphins and jets are in such great positions to make a move with the draft picks they have. Good chance he ends up in the AFCE. Bring him on. The NFL is going to turn into the NBA now because of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 This might be a strange thought process but he or his agent might try to orchestrate the best trade to an NFC team. The AFC is fairly loaded with QB talent and it's harder at this point to get to a Super Bowl. You have to get through Mahomes, Lamar, Baker, Allen, Herbert, Tannehill...and don't forger Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence soon on the scene. The NFC side has Russell Wilson and a mish mosh of aging stars or mediocre's. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Deshaun Watson would run the city of Atlanta if they figured out a way to get that done. I can't think of a better landing spot. Maybe his clutch gene will carry over to the rest of that team and get them over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts