Jerome007 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: No one looks good when they got absolutely slapped at the line of scrimmage for the millionth time in a night....and then go get some shots in AFTER YOUR QB IS HARD ON HIS BACK! lol. If you can't handle the man in front of you before the whistle blows, you don't get to go at him after. Actually stand up for you r QB.... total clown moves. What? Feliciano didn't come in like the cavalry because Josh was on his back but to protect him as Josh wouldn't have it and threw the football in the dude's helmet. Dawkins gets the "self-control" award of the night as you could tell he had to urge to kick that SOB in the head ha ha. I had to laugh at the rules when the refs actually called all the right penalties... and they simply offset! Math is just too hard it seems. Daboll yesterday sure didn't have an answer for the blitzes. Nor free up Diggs. And whoever, probably McD, decided to not got on 4th twice while close to the goal line... damn! While the Bills D kept doing blitzes... to no avail. At the end, I got it. They were in all or nothing mode so I was OK with it, like the last Kelce TD, they sent the house. But before that point, WTH were they doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Lol yes you’re reaching. Just cause Diggs and Beasley were together when he said it doesn’t mean he didn’t say it to other players or the whole offense at some point. Yeah these last 2 games with the Ravens & Chiefs are hardly something Brian wants to put on a resume. Just wierd odd calls. Totally inconsistent with the way he called games during the regular season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I, too, want a Bundt cake. I was told I could have cake. Last time, there wasn’t enough and I didn’t get a piece... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, whorlnut said: Daboll should apologize to the entire offense. Completely went into a shell on the big stage. Maybe the Chargers knew something we didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Maybe the Chargers knew something we didn't. That their real weakness was on defence and that a good offensive coordinator will do just fine with that side of the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Pretty unbelievable that the refs missed that punch. Wild that it can’t be buzzed down to the refs. Just go to show how much of the game is in the hands of officials. The second guy in is ALWAYS the one that gets flagged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Protocal69 said: Interesting that Daboll didn’t apologize to John Brown. That may be a sign that John Brown may be gone. Maybe I’m reaching though I think you're reaching way past the information provided. Beasley can only speak to what he observed. He said Daboll apologized to Diggs and to himself. That provides no information about what Daboll may have said to anyone else. 2 hours ago, jkeerie said: It does make you wonder, as much as they are denying it, were Daboll and Frazier distracted by the allure of potential head coaching gigs and not 100% in their game planning. Even subconsciously it can have an effect. I had wondered this myself. TBH, though, I think the whole team was super-fired-up for the Division round win against the "unstoppable" Lamar Jackson and perhaps the Party Hats didn't come off soon enough to dial in against the Chiefs. The whole team - coaches, players, everyone - just had a feel of being tentative, holding back, not playing to "go for the throat". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, BillsRdue said: Exactly. I hate this rule and no jobs should be offered and no interviews given until after the season ends for all teams. It's only a few weeks. Everyone can hold their horses and wait it out so it is fair to all teams and not a distraction. This ^^^ X 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Daboll sucked the entire post season, I don’t care what anybody says the interviews for other jobs changed his focus. He became the loser he was last year, right when it mattered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Captain Caveman said: This goes against God. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Man, I have been hard on Daboll. But let’s be honest. His nfl resume as an OC before this season sucked. now, after what he has done with Allen and this offense, he has nothing to apologize for. For the first time in forever, scoring 2 tds in a game wasn’t a major accomplishment for Buffalo. Dude killed it this year. Excited he’s coming back and Allen is getting his 4th year with the same OC, which never happens. Only good things ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: This goes against God. C'mon, we're Bills fans, we all know God is dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Frat-Train said: I’m still waiting for my apology from Daboll... Just sayin... Probably should come in the form of a Bundt cake or something... Brilliant! Put me down for a glazed lemon pound cake...Leslie’s buying accompanying coffee, yes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 5 hours ago, DCofNC said: Daboll sucked the entire post season, I don’t care what anybody says the interviews for other jobs changed his focus. He became the loser he was last year, right when it mattered. I agree to a degree. The post season is something all the coaches need to get used to and make adjustments as they go. Look at Dabolls history and I was very against him at first. The thing is... the man is learning as he goes just like Josh Allen is learning. Yes, his past history as an OC has sucked and even this season the Bills never had a top rushing attack. Still, the addition of Stefon Diggs has changed the complexion of the offense in a huge way. Last season the Bills were 23rd in points, 24th in yards on offense. This season the 2020 Buffalo Bills have the #2 overall offense and its almost all due to the pass game. Look how the Bills played the Ravens last season as they sacked Allen 6 times and had 12 QB hits on him. This season the Ravens were so afraid of what Allen can do during a blitz they didn't even blitz him nearly as much, from 6 sacks to 2, from 12 QB hits to 3. Now, the Chiefs did something in this game I had never really seen happen in that the Chiefs covered the Bills receivers like superglue! With no run game to fall back on the offensive players were very frustrated. The Chiefs came alive in this game and played their very best all over the field. It's like they were watching Buffalo all season and just waiting to pounce. The Bills NEED to beat this team and I have confidence that they will figure it out. They play the Chiefs again this season at Arrowhead so they had better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: Yep, I agree. I thought we were roundly outcoached last night. I'm sure the coaches will learn from it and do better next year just like they learned from last year and improved. Just don't understand the slings and arrows today. We were in the AFC Championship game and lost to the best team in football. I don't get the sky is falling attitude that many here have. I wish the whole team would have played better. I wish we would have won the Super Bowl this year. I wish a lot of things. I just can't look at this amazing season and feel too disappointed. The team fell short last night. Just like KC did the first year Mahomes and KC went to the AFC Championship game and lost to the Patriots. I agree 13-3 (a 3 game improvement from the previous year), division title, a sweep of the division, 24 year old QB who had a runner up to the MVP season and two playoff victories at home is a great season in almost any context. Yes this team will be up against the cap with many pending free agents and the team still needs to add two critical components to the team (a dominant edge rusher and a pass catcher). But this team will be back with a strong team next year and if McBeane can pull off some cap magic and a solid draft the Bills might come back with an even stronger team. The future is bright now let's all become cap nerds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 9 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: I have a simple question for you all. Is what our OC did this game enough where any of you feel we have to move on from him? We ranked second in points per game and yards per game this season. NO!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 where the ***** is my apology? I had to watch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 10 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: I have a simple question for you all. Is what our OC did this game enough where any of you feel we have to move on from him? Ok, back to the basement for the bag of chicken feathers. The fire under the tar pot is really getting rolling... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 11 hours ago, NewEra said: Okafor hit allen in the face mask on a previous play. It was pretty bush league. I think it was all in retaliation to that play I understand Josh's anger toward Okafor. The point is that Okafor was abusing Josh so much because Feliciano and Co. were saving their best work for after the whistle. They let him take a beating the entire second half, so they don't get to be all uppity after they let their QB get taken hard to the ground yet again. It's a ridiculous look. 10 hours ago, Jerome007 said: What? Feliciano didn't come in like the cavalry because Josh was on his back but to protect him as Josh wouldn't have it and threw the football in the dude's helmet. Dawkins gets the "self-control" award of the night as you could tell he had to urge to kick that SOB in the head ha ha. I had to laugh at the rules when the refs actually called all the right penalties... and they simply offset! Math is just too hard it seems. Daboll yesterday sure didn't have an answer for the blitzes. Nor free up Diggs. And whoever, probably McD, decided to not got on 4th twice while close to the goal line... damn! While the Bills D kept doing blitzes... to no avail. At the end, I got it. They were in all or nothing mode so I was OK with it, like the last Kelce TD, they sent the house. But before that point, WTH were they doing? Feliciano's energy would have better spent before his QB was on his back. Dawkins too. After that little show by the fellas on the O-line, the Chiefs were laughing at them and pointing to the scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 12 hours ago, NewEra said: But no one struggled more than the coaches. McD- FAIL, Daboll- FAIL, Frazier- FAIL. except maybe Feliciano. It doesn’t surprise me that nobody saw that, he should’ve been ejected. If Hughes did that he would probably have to serve 3 days picking up elephant *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I understand Josh's anger toward Okafor. The point is that Okafor was abusing Josh so much because Feliciano and Co. were saving their best work for after the whistle. They let him take a beating the entire second half, so they don't get to be all uppity after they let their QB get taken hard to the ground yet again. It's a ridiculous look. Feliciano's energy would have better spent before his QB was on his back. Dawkins too. After that little show by the fellas on the O-line, the Chiefs were laughing at them and pointing to the scoreboard. I get that....but that doesn’t mean you don’t go after them when they continue to abuse our QB. I get what you’re saying. I just don’t think their bad play means they can’t stand up for their QB when he gets cheap shorted. And he was 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I feel like Daboll is apologizing because the NFL paid him off and now he feels bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: I get that....but that doesn’t mean you don’t go after them when they continue to abuse our QB. I get what you’re saying. I just don’t think their bad play means they can’t stand up for their QB when he gets cheap shorted. And he was It was a bad look. You want to throw down? throw down. This was the NFL equivalent of NBA slap fight with "hold me back!". They were laughed at. Okafor blows by and is chasing Josh deeper backwards and the O-line is jogging around a bit like the play is over. They only start sprinting back toward Josh after he is thrown to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, Mr. WEO said: It was a bad look. You want to throw down? throw down. This was the NFL equivalent of NBA slap fight with "hold me back!". They were laughed at. Okafor blows by and is chasing Josh deeper backwards and the O-line is jogging around a bit like the play is over. They only start sprinting back toward Josh after he is thrown to the ground. It was a frustrating game. They were frustrating. I’ve already said it was a bad look. I’m just not mad at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) The Nfl decided to pretty much throw the flags away and just let them go at it. Kc pretty much mauled our receivers all over the field. We chose not to play that type of ball and it just manifested at the end. We should have had Milano or someone at least pop Kelce every single time off the line. Disrupt him, throw off timing, inflict some physicality.. anything We just sat back. Edited January 26, 2021 by loveorhatembillsfan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 The Bills’ coaching staff will get a front row seat from their couches in two weeks to see how more experienced and/or aggressive coaches scheme up KC. Brady will know what to do against tight man coverage and late safety robber rotation, and Bowles will have a far more aggressive plan for Mahomes than McDermott and Frazier did. They should take notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 im happy daboll apologized, it was in order. he was not as good in the playoffs as he was in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Feliciano's energy would have better spent before his QB was on his back. Dawkins too. After that little show by the fellas on the O-line, the Chiefs were laughing at them and pointing to the scoreboard. So you're a Bills fan, hey? I wouldn't want you as teammate! As for Feliciano and Dawkins, I love them, but yeah, it was somehow they're worse game of the year. Feliciano, a force usually, was pushed back a lot. Maybe he was injured or just outmatched, only he and the coaches know. Chiefs D looked elite. I didn't expect that! Insane pressure on Josh, but mostly, the receivers were blanketed all night. WTH Edited January 26, 2021 by Jerome007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 14 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Its almost like Debol was replaced my a body double yesterday......WTF HAPPENED Most our key WR were banged up. KC knew this and played an aggressive man scheme. Usually we light up man but guys were too banged up to consistently win. So they could double Diggs with not much threat of being beat deep by anyone else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I was looking for the apology but it says I have to pay Next time apologize on Bills.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Most our key WR were banged up. KC knew this and played an aggressive man scheme. Usually we light up man but guys were too banged up to consistently win. So they could double Diggs with not much threat of being beat deep by anyone else This makes sense--hence the return look to more our 2018 O version than what we'd grown accustomed to this year--Josh's running stats also support this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 16 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: The entire team struggled yesterday except for our rookie kicker. (I'll cut him some slack on the missed extra point considering the pair of 50+ yarders) All in all, a fantastic season and I agree with Beasley, there is nothing for Daboll to apologize about. We made the AFC championship game and lost to the best team in the NFL in their house. In addition to the pair of 50+ yarders there were two great on-sides kicks. We recovered one, the second was almost a repeat of the first as far as the path of the ball. Obviously KC recovered the second. But if Bass can replicate those kicks why not do it every time against the Chiefs. If they recover, it isn't like we did a lot to slow them down until the ball got to our side of the field. No sense in tiring out the defense chasing those guys around for 75 yards, just give them the first 30, shorten up the field. If we recover 1 out of 4 kicks we're ahead of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I understand Josh's anger toward Okafor. The point is that Okafor was abusing Josh so much because Feliciano and Co. were saving their best work for after the whistle. They let him take a beating the entire second half, so they don't get to be all uppity after they let their QB get taken hard to the ground yet again. It's a ridiculous look. Feliciano's energy would have better spent before his QB was on his back. Dawkins too. After that little show by the fellas on the O-line, the Chiefs were laughing at them and pointing to the scoreboard. I believe it was Romo who commented on this on the broadcast - pretty close to your words, something to the effect of "he should put that energy into blocking so there isn't a sack" Marlon Humphrey commented on the blocking as well: Did you see Mitch Morse' postgame presser? Right at the beginning, he was asked about pressure and said: "Yeah, Got to give Kudos to Josh for making plays with his feet, It comes down to communication, especially in the first half, we had some miscommunication in the second half (stuff about silent cadence that they haven't had to use all year) For us, it really comes down to communication but Josh really helped us out a lot with his feet and we can't thank him enough for that." It just struck me as really weird - dissociated? He's saying they screwed up protections due to miscommunication and instead of being like "we need to do a better job communicating so we can keep Josh clean and let him make plays" he's THANKING him? Maybe I just don't "get" how it is between the O-line and the QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Jerome007 said: So you're a Bills fan, hey? I wouldn't want you as teammate! As for Feliciano and Dawkins, I love them, but yeah, it was somehow they're worse game of the year. Feliciano, a force usually, was pushed back a lot. Maybe he was injured or just outmatched, only he and the coaches know. Chiefs D looked elite. I didn't expect that! Insane pressure on Josh, but mostly, the receivers were blanketed all night. WTH Why not? Given how much I was being paid to do so, I would spend more effort keeping you off your back than pushing around your attacker after he wrecked you again. You would prefer that I bet. Certainly better than watching your mates loose their stool as your opponent laughs at them. How proud were Williams and Feliciano over "sticking up for Josh"----after they saw the film of that debacle (them giving up on the play while Josh was still running for his life). Feliciano wasn't injured--look at that Pro Bowl lick he put on Okafor's blind side. 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I believe it was Romo who commented on this on the broadcast - pretty close to your words, something to the effect of "he should put that energy into blocking so there isn't a sack" Marlon Humphrey commented on the blocking as well: Romo never struggles with the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: The Bills’ coaching staff will get a front row seat from their couches in two weeks to see how more experienced and/or aggressive coaches scheme up KC. Brady will know what to do against tight man coverage and late safety robber rotation, and Bowles will have a far more aggressive plan for Mahomes than McDermott and Frazier did. They should take notes. I am sure they will 4 hours ago, Jerome007 said: So you're a Bills fan, hey? I wouldn't want you as teammate! As for Feliciano and Dawkins, I love them, but yeah, it was somehow they're worse game of the year. Feliciano, a force usually, was pushed back a lot. Maybe he was injured or just outmatched, only he and the coaches know. Chiefs D looked elite. I didn't expect that! Insane pressure on Josh, but mostly, the receivers were blanketed all night. WTH I will throw out there again, in Morse postgame presser, he mentioned communication as an issue on OL. It is possible that was a factor in some of the whiffs people are putting on Mongo, that he and Morse were not on the same page with what the protection call was supposed to be. There were issues with communication earlier in the season where someone (might have been Wood) pointed out that Winters appeared to whiff badly on a block leading to a strip-sack of Allen near the goal line, but Morse went L when he should have gone R. (2nd Jets game). In his presser after that one, Morse alluded to it saying words to the effect of "there's nothing worse than looking back to see your QB crushed on the ground and knowing it's because of a technical error you made". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 1:14 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: There were issues with communication earlier in the season where someone (might have been Wood) pointed out that Winters appeared to whiff badly on a block leading to a strip-sack of Allen near the goal line, but Morse went L when he should have gone R. (2nd Jets game). In his presser after that one, Morse alluded to it saying words to the effect of "there's nothing worse than looking back to see your QB crushed on the ground and knowing it's because of a technical error you made". I will put the positive spin: when it comes to pass blocking (NOT run blocking!), that Bills OL was superb this year. Very few communication breakdowns. Some of that credit comes to Daboll and coaches (many plays with 6-7 blockers at times, non obvious plays, etc.), Josh for adjusting protection before the snap... but of course a lot of that credit goes to Morse and the OL. But yeah, the Chiefs wasn't one of those games... I wonder why. My first guess is good gameplan by KC but who knows. I expected the offensive juggernaut but not the Chiefs D to look so dominant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 8:54 AM, Jerome007 said: So you're a Bills fan, hey? I wouldn't want you as teammate! As for Feliciano and Dawkins, I love them, but yeah, it was somehow they're worse game of the year. Feliciano, a force usually, was pushed back a lot. Maybe he was injured or just outmatched, only he and the coaches know. Chiefs D looked elite. I didn't expect that! Insane pressure on Josh, but mostly, the receivers were blanketed all night. WTH Dude, WEO is a Pats fan who posts here. To his credit he does know a lot about our roster for a opposing fan but he goes out of his way to be critical. If the Pats had done the same thing defending their QB he would be on here saying that it is the model to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I think from what little i've read that Dabol has a unique relationship with his WR's where he's not afraid for them to give him input to what they are seeing on the field to make the offense even better . Dabol can see from above but to have a on the field view and input is a bit more old school in thought that if you've not been on the field as a player you can't know what routes might work against a opponent better than others with that relationship then throw in the mix Dorsey it's a good player/coaching mix . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 8:36 AM, Coach Tuesday said: The Bills’ coaching staff will get a front row seat from their couches in two weeks to see how more experienced and/or aggressive coaches scheme up KC. Brady will know what to do against tight man coverage and late safety robber rotation, and Bowles will have a far more aggressive plan for Mahomes than McDermott and Frazier did. They should take notes. Exactly. What I don’t understand tho is how McD and Frazier could have come up with such a stupid gameplan. They are both good and experienced coaches. They should not need to be schooled by anyone. When you are going against the best offence and QB in the league with multiple weapons, your best strategy is to do what you can to disrupt their execution with pressure even if you risk being burned. You absolutely have to play aggressively. Rushing 4 leaves Mahomes all the time he needs to pick you apart especially when you fail to play man against a player like Kelce and don’t selectively double cover him. Staying in zone is a lot like not covering him at all. Finding the seams/open areas is what he does. Simple pitch and catch all day long. Agree about the Bucs. And thats one reason why I think they will beat KC. If they lose it will be because Brady screws up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/25/2021 at 3:59 PM, whorlnut said: Daboll should apologize to the entire offense. Completely went into a shell on the big stage. Yeah Brian blew his HC stock last week. Very surprised to see him have another "head scratcher" game. He's had a few of these. Daboll has alot of work to do this offseason. He has to show more commitment to the run game or Josh will get killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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