Divisional Playoff round: Ravens at Bills on Saturday Night Football

[Straight Hucklebuck]

7 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

When Schopp watches a Nick Wright segment, does he feel jealousy?  Envy? The terrible sense that somebody took his schtick and is actually getting rich off it?

It's still the Draft. 

 

Schopp coveted Lamar Jackson at Louisville, and obviously did not believe in Allen because of the limited production at Wyoming. 

 

So 3 years later, it's Lamar with an MVP and a guy who has 81.8% winning percentage, and Allen has one elite year. 

 

And you're going to get the same narrative from Schopp. He liked Jackson more from the start. 

Edited January 14, 2021 by Straight Hucklebuck

[CEN-CAL17]

1 hour ago, billsrul120 said:

Ravens 2019 rushing ypg: 206.0

Ravens 2020 rushing ypg: 191.9

 

Ravens 2019 passing ypg: 201.6

Ravens 2020 passing ypg: 171.2

 

They are not more dynamic than last year at all. 

Not saying it’s gonna easy cause it’s not... but didn’t buffalo have  a tougher schedule too? 
 

Buffalo is gonna be ready!!!!

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I still don’t believe the story He’s “never played football in snow” 

 

Saturday

A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 37. West wind 7 to 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

 

Saturday Night

A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 30. Breezy. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

[The Wiz]

 

Apparently it's worth mentioning (though I've never heard of it).

 

 

[billsrul120]

12 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Lamar is a good QB, but in the end, he isn't 2x the QB as any other top flight QB. 

 

2018

118.5 combined yards per game, 11 total TDs.

 

2019

288.9 combined yards per game, 43 total TDs

 

2020

250.4 combined yards per game, 33 total TDs

 

So 2019 he was an elite QB in terms of production, and 2020 he's a solidly good QB in terms of production. But yards are yards and he's not heads and shoulders above Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert or any other high upside thrower. 

 

yea this doesn't get talked about nearly enough.  Allen produced 1100 more total yards this year than LJ and had 13 more total TDs  Guess people are bored of good passing and find the running entertaining.  LJ is electric running but Allen's production this year is every bit as good if not better than LJ's last year. Man does that MVP moniker get a lot of traffic tho. 

[Putin]

13 minutes ago, AllDayLJ said:

I would expect all of them to play. Marcus has been on the injury what seems to be the entire back half of the season. But it doesn't sound like anything major.

 

You nailed it on the depth though. Not much. Luckily Jimmy Smith is still solid, but then it falls to Averett - who I honestly think has played well during this winning streak - and Tramon Williams.

 

Let's just hope Marcus plays!

No NOBODY here  is hoping that Marcus plays 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 minutes ago, billsrul120 said:

yea this doesn't get talked about nearly enough.  Allen produced 1100 more total yards this year than LJ and had 13 more total TDs  Guess people are bored of good passing and find the running entertaining.  LJ is electric running but Allen's production this year is every bit as good if not better than LJ's last year. Man does that MVP moniker get a lot of traffic tho. 

It's why Mahomes and Rodgers are the gold standard right now (and Brady had a massive year too). 

 

Mahomes, another year with 5,000+ yards of production, 40 total TDs, 309 ypg passing. 

 

Rodgers had 51 combined TDs this year, 5 interceptions. FIVE.

 

So Lamar is one of several high end QBs in this league, and is among the best when passing is combined with the running, but other than rushing yards, he's not doing things or hitting milestones that have never been achieved. 

 

 

[billsrul120]

5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

It's why Mahomes and Rodgers are the gold standard right now (and Brady had a massive year too). 

 

Mahomes, another year with 5,000+ yards of production, 40 total TDs, 309 ypg passing. 

 

Rodgers had 51 combined TDs this year, 5 interceptions. FIVE.

 

So Lamar is one of several high end QBs in this league, and is among the best when passing is combined with the running, but other than rushing yards, he's not doing things or hitting milestones that have never been achieved. 

 

 

Not only that but he appears to be pretty bad at passing judging by ypg. There is no way hes some amazing passer and they are like no no lets have him run. Its objectively less valuable to run the ball.  His total yards in his MVP season were less than just Allen's passing yards this year and Allen ran for 400+ on top of his passing.

[Since1981]

We have an NFL competitive advantage in Josh. The wind removes our advantage. To me, wind is the most important defense. 
 

Wind >10 mph bills loss. 
Wind <10 mph bills win. 
 

We don’t want to openly admit it, but our boy blue is a competitive advantage. Our windy weather is NOT!!    

Edited January 14, 2021 by Since1981

[LeGOATski]

5 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

We have an NFL competitive advantage in Josh. The wind removes our advantage. To me, wind is the most important defense. 
 

Wind >10 mph bills loss. 
Wind <10 mph bills win. 
 

We don’t want to openly admit it, but our boy blue is a competitive advantage. Our windy weather is NOT!! 

Jeezus cryst

[YoloinOhio]

21 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

I still don’t believe the story He’s “never played football in snow” 

 

Saturday

A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 37. West wind 7 to 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

 

Saturday Night

A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 30. Breezy. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

You think he forgot? Like that time they said he he met with the bills at the combine And then later he said he never met with them? 

[eball]

You knuckleheads wringing your hands over the weather crack me up.  It is what it is.  The Bills are going to win this game and I don't think it's going to be all that stressful in the 4th quarter.

[Einstein's Dog]

7 minutes ago, Putin said:

No NOBODY here  is hoping that Marcus plays 

I guess I'm in the minority but I don't think Marcus Peters is good.  It might be the back but I think it's more he's in the wrong system.  His skill set is not meant for man to man.  He's a risk taking somewhat cerebral veteran with diminished skills.  I think the Bills will go after him a lot. 

 

He reminds me of Josh Norman when he was with Washington.  I think Peters will be abused.  And after he will claim his back was bothering him.  I hope he plays.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, eball said:

You knuckleheads wringing your hands over the weather crack me up.  It is what it is.  The Bills are going to win this game and I don't think it's going to be all that stressful in the 4th quarter.

 

I would be totally down with "not that stressful in the 4th quarter"

 

@YoloinOhio when do we learn about Practice Squad call-ups?

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I would be totally down with "not that stressful in the 4th quarter"

 

@YoloinOhio when do we learn about Practice Squad call-ups?

Last week it was Friday at 4pm. Not sure if that will differ with the later game time this week 

[Royale with Cheese]

7 minutes ago, eball said:

You knuckleheads wringing your hands over the weather crack me up.  It is what it is.  The Bills are going to win this game and I don't think it's going to be all that stressful in the 4th quarter.

I can’t take another game like last week.  My heart....she won’t be able to take it!

Edited January 14, 2021 by Royale with Cheese

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

 

[Rockinon]

This guy thinks he knows how to beat the Bills.

 

https://russellstreetreport.com/2021/01/14/ravens-battle-plans/how-to-beat-the-bills-advance/

[klos63]

15 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I can’t take another game like last week.  My heart....she won’t be able to take it!

I was seriously concerned that I might not survive an OT. I was having chest pains.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

21 minutes ago, eball said:

You knuckleheads wringing your hands over the weather crack me up.  It is what it is.  The Bills are going to win this game and I don't think it's going to be all that stressful in the 4th quarter.

I'm not worrying about the weather at all.  
 

Rocket arms don’t have trouble with wind. 

Lobbing passes will. 
 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Big C]

34 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

We have an NFL competitive advantage in Josh. The wind removes our advantage. To me, wind is the most important defense. 
 

Wind >10 mph bills loss. 
Wind <10 mph bills win. 
 

We don’t want to openly admit it, but our boy blue is a competitive advantage. Our windy weather is NOT!! 

 

Josh Allen deciding whether or not to defer:

 

[njbuff]

Who have the Ravens played that is anywhere near the level of talent at the QB position like Josh Allen?

 

This isn't the 2019 Josh Allen vs Baltimore version folks.

[Rockinon]

Not the 2019 version of WRs either.

[SCBills]

37 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

We have an NFL competitive advantage in Josh. The wind removes our advantage. To me, wind is the most important defense. 
 

Wind >10 mph bills loss. 
Wind <10 mph bills win. 
 

We don’t want to openly admit it, but our boy blue is a competitive advantage. Our windy weather is NOT!! 

I might be worried in greater than 20 mph winds, but winds in the teens are absolutely fine to throw in... especially for Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes types. 

[Pokebball]

43 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

We have an NFL competitive advantage in Josh. The wind removes our advantage. To me, wind is the most important defense. 
 

Wind >10 mph bills loss. 
Wind <10 mph bills win. 
 

We don’t want to openly admit it, but our boy blue is a competitive advantage. Our windy weather is NOT!! 

A calm day in Laramie is 15 mph

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

13 minutes ago, njbuff said:

Who have the Ravens played that is anywhere near the level of talent at the QB position like Josh Allen?

 

This isn't the 2019 Josh Allen vs Baltimore version folks.

Mahomes and Watson. Both guys racked up some good yardage. 

[FLFan]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

It's why Mahomes and Rodgers are the gold standard right now (and Brady had a massive year too). 

 

Mahomes, another year with 5,000+ yards of production, 40 total TDs, 309 ypg passing. 

 

Rodgers had 51 combined TDs this year, 5 interceptions. FIVE.

 

So Lamar is one of several high end QBs in this league, and is among the best when passing is combined with the running, but other than rushing yards, he's not doing things or hitting milestones that have never been achieved. 

 

 

Lamar is the best running back in the NFL.  He can also throw the ball around some.  

Edited January 14, 2021 by FLFan
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[Warcodered]

28 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

This guy thinks he knows how to beat the Bills.

 

https://russellstreetreport.com/2021/01/14/ravens-battle-plans/how-to-beat-the-bills-advance/

The Patriots way of defending Diggs seems like an odd choice given how Diggs destroyed them.

[Rockinon]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

The Patriots way of defending Diggs seems like an odd choice given how Diggs destroyed them.

Yea, they are not stopping the Bills offense. He does have some good points on attacking the Bills defense. The Colts had a good game plan that almost worked. Run the ball, control the clock. I see the Ravens trying that same approach. I remember the game against them last year. They were pretty good at mixing up runs inside and outside. A lot of misdirection. I expect a tough game. I'd love to see the Bills jump out to an early lead, though.

[LeGOATski]

I don't understand why Simms keeps saying the Ravens are "the hottest team in football" after just one game against the Titans where they only scored 20 points...

 

The Texans and Packers put up 38 and 40 points respectively on the Titans the previous 2 weeks....

 

No one was calling the Ravens the hottest team the previous week.

 

It's strange that this narrative popped up after that so-so Titans game.

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

Yea, they are not stopping the Bills offense. He does have some good points on attacking the Bills defense. The Colts had a good game plan that almost worked. Run the ball, control the clock. I see the Ravens trying that same approach. I remember the game against them last year. They were pretty good at mixing up runs inside and outside. A lot of misdirection. I expect a tough game. I'd love to see the Bills jump out to an early lead, though.

I'm not sure on that it felt like the Colts got their running game going on the outside not up the gut.

Edited January 14, 2021 by Warcodered

[Logic]

3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I don't understand why Simms keeps saying the Ravens are "the hottest team in football" after just one game against the Titans where they only scored 20 points...

 

The Texans and Packers put up 38 and 40 points respectively on the Titans the previous 2 weeks....

 

No one was calling the Ravens the hottest team the previous week.

 

It's strange that this narrative popped up after that so-so Titans game.

Agreed. 

I could ALMOST see the "hottest team in football" sentiment since they've won six in a row.

Only problem with that? The Bills have won SEVEN in a row.

[freddyjj]

1 hour ago, Since1981 said:

We have an NFL competitive advantage in Josh. The wind removes our advantage. To me, wind is the most important defense. 
 

Wind >10 mph bills loss. 
Wind <10 mph bills win. 
 

We don’t want to openly admit it, but our boy blue is a competitive advantage. Our windy weather is NOT!!    

LOL  10 mph is Windy?  The average breeze ion WNY is 8mph 9 months out of the year.   10-15  mph is no factor 

 

Believe 20 mph is where ball flight of a spiral might vary.  And the wind always swirls in the bowl.  

[Putin]

33 minutes ago, njbuff said:

Who have the Ravens played that is anywhere near the level of talent at the QB position like Josh Allen?

 

This isn't the 2019 Josh Allen vs Baltimore version folks.

I’d say Mahomes but obviously it didn’t workout well for the ravens, 

And I think it will be the same outcome against Josh Allen 

Go Bills  !!!!

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

Agreed. 

I could ALMOST see the "hottest team in football" sentiment since they've won six in a row.

Only problem with that? The Bills have won SEVEN in a row.

Disregarding the Packers and Chiefs too, I guess, because they cooled off during the bye.......

 

The Titans had the 24th ranked scoring defense this year, averaging 27 points against and 32 over the last 3 games. The Ravens offense underperformed. 

[Penfield45]

8 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I don't understand why Simms keeps saying the Ravens are "the hottest team in football" after just one game against the Titans where they only scored 20 points...

 

The Texans and Packers put up 38 and 40 points respectively on the Titans the previous 2 weeks....

 

No one was calling the Ravens the hottest team the previous week.

 

It's strange that this narrative popped up after that so-so Titans game.

 

why does it matter? lol 

 

the season is over. winning streaks and records don't matter in the playoffs. its win or go home. 

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Lamar is a good QB, but in the end, he isn't 2x the QB as any other top flight QB. 

 

2018

118.5 combined yards per game, 11 total TDs.

 

2019

288.9 combined yards per game, 43 total TDs

 

2020

250.4 combined yards per game, 33 total TDs

 

So 2019 he was an elite QB in terms of production, and 2020 he's a solidly good QB in terms of production. But yards are yards and he's not heads and shoulders above Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Herbert or any other high upside thrower. 

 

 

he wins games. end of discussion 

 

 

[njbuff]

26 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Mahomes and Watson. Both guys racked up some good yardage. 

 

I should clarify that I meant during the Ravens late season run here.

[LeGOATski]

20 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

 

why does it matter? lol 

 

the season is over. winning streaks and records don't matter in the playoffs. its win or go home. 

The season is in fact not over. The Bills are playing the Ravens on Saturday at 8:15 P.M. ET on NBC.

Edited January 15, 2021 by LeGOATski

[K-9]

23 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I don't understand why Simms keeps saying the Ravens are "the hottest team in football" after just one game against the Titans where they only scored 20 points...

 

The Texans and Packers put up 38 and 40 points respectively on the Titans the previous 2 weeks....

 

No one was calling the Ravens the hottest team the previous week.

 

It's strange that this narrative popped up after that so-so Titans game.

It’s because LJ finally got the playoff monkey off his back and their defense completely stopped the second most potent offense (in terms of yards) in the league.