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Divisional Playoff round: Ravens at Bills on Saturday Night Football


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4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I can’t see Baltimore blitzing heavy.

 

I know that’s what they do and that’s their strength.

 

But they would be asking for big trouble if they give the bills a lot of cover 1/cover 0

Obviously things were different last year but it's amazing they blitzed 31  time and sacked Josh  six times last year

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9 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

really hope Daboll replaced those weird designed QB draws with screen passes to counter the Ravens heavy blitzing. 

 

Ravens aren't nearly as good of a blitzing team as the Steelers, I thought we did a good job vs their blitz in the 2nd half of that game. That said, Ravens secondary is elite, far better than Pittsburg's 

 

And quick slants and quick outs. I do not want to see Josh trying to run over Ravens LB's.

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5 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I can’t see Baltimore blitzing heavy.

 

I know that’s what they do and that’s their strength.

 

But they would be asking for big trouble if they give the bills a lot of cover 1/cover 0

 

The Ravens under Harbaugh are a pretty arrogant team.  They seem to basically say "we'll do what we do and you have to beat us."  Against most teams it's good enough, but against really good QBs they are vulnerable.

 

Guess what -- the Bills finally have a "really good QB."

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4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I can’t see Baltimore blitzing heavy.

 

I know that’s what they do and that’s their strength.

 

But they would be asking for big trouble if they give the bills a lot of cover 1/cover 0

Yup, that's the thing. I would pull my hair out trying to game plan against the Bills offense. You can't just say "keep him in the pocket", or "make him beat us with his arm".

 

Those days are long gone. You have to prepare for the deadly passing game, the running game isn't as strong but it is good enough you have to respect it. Then you also have to worry about Josh taking off and running for 20-30plus yards. The blitz Ravens like to do may work here and there a few times, but Josh will eat it up at some point and burn your ass up.

 

So what do you do? I would do exactly what the Colts did but be prepared for Josh running a little more than the Colts were. You can bet your ass the Ravens are looking at the way the Colts did. Josh was just too good though and WR's had a lot of drops that you can factor in.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, eball said:

I bet McKenzie is having fun playing Lamar Jackson in practice this week.

Maybe they the Steelers will let us borrow Ray-Ray I mean they're not doing anything.

12 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Not sure if already covered here or elsewhere, but we should be expecting nothing but class from the Ravens, right? 🙄

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30687874/baltimore-ravens-celebration-tennessee-titans-logo-team-unity-not-disrespect

 

"The Ravens were penalized 15 yards for taunting, but it had no impact on the game. Six plays later, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson knelt one final time and ran off the field without shaking hands with the Titans, waving at his teammates to do the same."

 

C'mon Buffalo. Don't let your logo get disrespected this weekend. Win!!!

I didn't like that either but I guess it was a response to the Titans doing it to them earlier in the season.

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10 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

really hope Daboll replaced those weird designed QB draws with screen passes to counter the Ravens heavy blitzing. 

 


The QB draws out of empty sets were because the Colts has only 4-5 men near the line of scrimmage, two high safeties playing very deep, and corners giving generous cushion. They were literally daring the Bills to run Josh Allen. To have NOT done so would have been coaching malpractice.

 

 

I do agree, though, that I hope Daboll has an effective set of screens ready to go to counter all the blitzing.

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3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


I don’t think they are built to sit back and play zone and rush 4. We will pick them apart. They will do what they do best. Play physical and blitz a ton. 

Could be rush 4/5, man to man with 1 or 2 safeties.

 

That would be my guess as i think they'll mix that game plan.

 

I don't see them blitzing 6 plus guys very often

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4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


I don’t think they are built to sit back and play zone and rush 4. We will pick them apart. They will do what they do best. Play physical and blitz a ton

Good. Josh will burn that ass up. May work for a short period of time for then. But it will bite em and bite em good sooner than later.

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2 minutes ago, eball said:

 

The Ravens under Harbaugh are a pretty arrogant team.  They seem to basically say "we'll do what we do and you have to beat us."  Against most teams it's good enough, but against really good QBs they are vulnerable.

 

Guess what -- the Bills finally have a "really good QB."

Ya that is true.

 

One game sticks out to me about the ravens though. Against CLE on that crazy monday nighter, they played a lot of coverage as they didn't matchup well with the browns receivers as I believe they had a corner or 2 hurt.

 

Now they got burned by it so maybe they will change.

 

But they did show they will play coverage if they don't think they can matchup well 1 on 1 with only 1 high safety

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18 minutes ago, eball said:

 

The Ravens under Harbaugh are a pretty arrogant team.  They seem to basically say "we'll do what we do and you have to beat us."  Against most teams it's good enough, but against really good QBs they are vulnerable.

 

Guess what -- the Bills finally have a "really good QB."

I'd go as far to say great QB. But yeah they can't say "make him be a QB" and ***** like that anymore. During the Colts game they said they wanted to keep Josh in the pocket.

 

Well okay......he's great there too, so I didn't quite get that 

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3 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Could be rush 4/5, man to man with 1 or 2 safeties.

 

That would be my guess as i think they'll mix that game plan.

 

I don't see them blitzing 6 plus guys very often

 

From what I have read, they are unpredictable with their blitzes--including numbers and who blitzes.  So, it's tough to say how often they will bring the house. 

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1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

 

From what I have read, they are unpredictable with their blitzes--including numbers and who blitzes.  So, it's tough to say how often they will bring the house. 

Ya for sure and I hear you.

 

I just think they are really playing with fire if they bring the house against Allen and the weapons the bills have 

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57 minutes ago, One Buffalo said:

Ravens D can be beat... And we have seen Allen has the ability to pick defenses apart.  

 

 

 

This year I've actually been getting irritated on almost every play Allen goes under center other than the 3rd and 4th and short where we QB sneak it.  I feel anxiety because I anticipate handing the ball off to an RB.

 

I'm sorry but this team wins or loses with Allen.  Moss and Singletary just aren't very good and the 2 or 3 yard gains just don't net anything that Allen can do with his arms and legs.  Keep an RB in the backfield and occasionally run it to keep them honest, but we ran the ball way too much in the first half against Indy.

 

I also really wish we'd eliminate QB designed runs.  RPOs are fine and tell Allen he should absolutely run on passing plays vs. man coverage if everyone's covered and he sees an opening.  But our designed QB runs have NEVER been all that effective over the past 3 years.

 

Of course... his designed QB runs have been more effective than running our RBs... so I guess there's that...

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10 minutes ago, Logic said:


The QB draws out of empty sets were because the Colts has only 4-5 men near the line of scrimmage, two high safeties playing very deep, and corners giving generous cushion. They were literally daring the Bills to run Josh Allen. To have NOT done so would have been coaching malpractice.

 

 

I do agree, though, that I hope Daboll has an effective set of screens ready to go to counter all the blitzing.

I agree with you, that the tactic of QB draws can be effective.  And if Balt sends 5 and has man to man on the back end and we send them all deep Josh may have to do it again.  Gain 15 and get OB or slide down (because Balt likes to take the cheap shot intimidation factor).  Then Balt will need to rethink their strategy.

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25 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Not sure if already covered here or elsewhere, but we should be expecting nothing but class from the Ravens, right? 🙄

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30687874/baltimore-ravens-celebration-tennessee-titans-logo-team-unity-not-disrespect

 

"The Ravens were penalized 15 yards for taunting, but it had no impact on the game. Six plays later, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson knelt one final time and ran off the field without shaking hands with the Titans, waving at his teammates to do the same."

 

C'mon Buffalo. Don't let your logo get disrespected this weekend. Win!!!

I missed that. Well I started doing something else after Tanny's INT so that explains it. But that is disrespectful, maybe it has more to do with the Titans and they have started a new rivalry with each other.

 

Titans started it I think with the Ravens logo earlier in the season and quick hand shake thing (if you want to call it a hand shake). So maybe it was just because of that. I feel like it would be different with the Bills.

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The way I see it is our ideal scenario is to jump out to an early lead and force Lamar to throw.  It was mentioned by the announcers in the Titans game, the Ravens are not built to play from behind.  They did of course come back against Titans but the Titans D is horrible.  If we can come out throwing and get a leg up, we should be at an increased advantage.  

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2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I do think part of that was the fact that Rivers, on average, was getting the ball out of his hands in about 2.5 seconds. It is going to be tough to get any kind of consistent pressure in that amount of time. Rivers was killing us with fairly quick throws to his tight ends.

 

This is a great point... Rivers has that vet savvy to get rid of the ball quickly.  Jackson's strategy is often to hold onto the ball.

 

I'm nervous about our pass rush, but our issues against Indy may have just been a product of going against a QB getting the ball out of his hands so quickly.

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