machine gun kelly Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Logic said: I'd place a large wager that Daboll will be coaching the Chargers next year. Went to high school with their GM, Tom Telesco, and would be walking into a ready-to-go roster. Daboll+Herbert+Williams, Allen, Henry, & Ekeler = immediate success. Logic, you beat me to it. I would add it is a two horse race. The Bills Mgmt team could easily be poached to Houston. Then we have a new GM with Watson as QB with Bills ties, and I’m betting it is a horse race between the two. Whether it’s being happy for one of the GM candidates, or just simply Daboll, it is a great compliment to our seniors staff for grooming these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Logic said: I'd place a large wager that Daboll will be coaching the Chargers next year. Went to high school with their GM, Tom Telesco, and would be walking into a ready-to-go roster. Daboll+Herbert+Williams, Allen, Henry, & Ekeler = immediate success. Being in the same division as Mahomes would suck. Texans is attractive. The division is wide open and only one team has a premier QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I may be in the minority, but I think the Jets job is pretty attractive, certainly better than Houston or Detroit. (1) The Jets have a ton of premium picks in the upcoming draft, including number 2 overall; (2) they finally have a good GM who will be using those picks and have already added some excellent talent last year, including a franchise LT; (3) they have a decent QB situation in that you could ride with Darnold for another year or, if you don't like him, you're in a great position to add Fields or whoever you want other than Lawrence in April; (4) they've got a pretty good defense already in place, so you would be free to laser-focus on adding offensive weapons. Downside is that it's going to be a tough division over the next 4-5 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Being in the same division as Mahomes would suck. Texans is attractive. The division is wide open and only one team has a premier QB. I agree, but I find it hard to believe that someone as competitive as most NFL coaches are wouldn't welcome the challenge. Houston would, indeed, be an attractive opening, but not as attractive as the Chargers, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 They’ve also requested interviews with Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus and Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Texans is attractive. The division is wide open and only one team has a premier QB. Disagree. That roster is depleted and they have no draft picks. They've got Deshaun Watson, but as we've seen, that's not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, stevestojan said: If he goes anywhere, this might be OK for us. JHC himself couldn’t turn that team around in less than 5 years. I don't think Daboll wants to face Allen or McD's D twice a year IMO. Its clearly not a recipe for success. Dabolls has arguably one of the best young QB's in the league to work with combined with McD's D and the expertise of Bills GM , Brandon Beane building the team around Allen. Its not going to be easy duplicating what McBeane has done, and finding another Josh Allen, Good luck with that , because your going to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Alot of Jets fans NOT happy about this. They do not want Daboll or a Coordinator. They want a HC from college. I think a couple of years of Manish Mehta would work great for the Jests. Johnson is just clueless enough to buy it, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Even Houston isn’t that good. Deshaun Watson I’d like Dak. Will put up big numbers but can’t win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: Even Houston isn’t that good. Deshaun Watson I’d like Dak. Will put up big numbers but can’t win. To me Houston would be a great landing spot for Daboll DC like Wade Phillips Edited January 4, 2021 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Being in the same division as Mahomes would suck. Texans is attractive. The division is wide open and only one team has a premier QB. Realistically how much better than Herbert is Mahomes? He is in year 4 but Herbert just had the best season of any rookie QB in NFL history and he didn't even start week 1. Hard to see Mahomes being head and shoulders above Herbert. He might be better but it won't be Allen vs Tua. Edited January 4, 2021 by Big Turk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Yeah, I think Houston is the real threat to poach Daboll. It's not an aggressive move to take your first HC gig against Mahomes/Reid. It's a foolhardy one, especially if you've got a wide open division and a franchise QB in place like everyone's said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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njbuff Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, Logic said: To be fair, a lot of Jets fans are idiots. Why are you insulting idiots? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 49 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think the Chargers is a much more realistic possibility QB in place Good organization And didn't he go to St. Francis with the GM there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Yeah, I think Houston is the real threat to poach Daboll. It's not an aggressive move to take your first HC gig against Mahomes/Reid. It's a foolhardy one, especially if you've got a wide open division and a franchise QB in place like everyone's said. While the idea of Watson is a real advantage for any HC candidate I do have to ask one question. The new Houston HC will work for who? HC candidates will want to know one thing. Who is the GM (my boss)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: That would be no, or not until the season is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Daboll is too smart and too disciplined to take a job with no QB, no talent, a joke GM and lunatic owners. They are drafting 2nd which means they can draft whichever QB the Jags don't want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, mannc said: Disagree. That roster is depleted and they have no draft picks. They've got Deshaun Watson, but as we've seen, that's not enough. True - but you don't typically take a job for immediate success. They need a GM as well. If said GM is say - Caserio from NE. There's some history there, and the goal is to build a multi-year contender. You do that with a franchise QB, which they already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, billykay said: And didn't he go to St. Francis with the GM there ? Yes, if I were Daboll the Chargers are the job I'd hope to land. Herbert with Daboll running his offense is a scary thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Daboll is too smart and too disciplined to take a job with no QB, no talent, a joke GM and lunatic owners. Agreed! Interview with the Jets is merely leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: God no please anyone BUT the jests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 NYC is such a pressure-cooker. Even if you think you can handle it, why would you want to? The NY media is is an angry horde and the distractions are through the roof. I'd consider everywhere else before NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I don’t get the “jets is a bad job” argument. They have on their roster a potential franchise QB and the #2 pick in the draft. Their D will be better next year with Mosley and others coming back. Plus, NY is obviously a huge media market. I suspect Dabs is competitive too, and would like going against his former teams and colleagues twice per year (Patriots, Bills, Flores in Miami). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: They are drafting 2nd which means they can draft whichever QB the Jags don't want Then I hope he hates all the QBs in this draft besides Trevor Lawrence. Or that he likes JA better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I don’t get the “jets is a bad job” argument. They have on their roster a potential franchise QB and the #2 pick in the draft. Their D will be better next year with Mosley and others coming back. Plus, NY is obviously a huge media market. I suspect Dabs is competitive too, and would like going against his former teams and colleagues twice per year (Patriots, Bills, Flores in Miami). I don’t think it’s a good position. You need to evaluate Darnold and move on (I think). If you miss on that decision you’re already half way out the door. Compare that to the Chargers job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I'd hate for Daboll's career to end like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I'd flip on him in an instant if he went to the Jets, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I don’t get the “jets is a bad job” argument. They have on their roster a potential franchise QB and the #2 pick in the draft. Their D will be better next year with Mosley and others coming back. Plus, NY is obviously a huge media market. I suspect Dabs is competitive too, and would like going against his former teams and colleagues twice per year (Patriots, Bills, Flores in Miami). That is the GMs job to make that decision. The HC plays with what the GM gives him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I mean does he have to can't he just pretend to be not feeling well and tell them to call later, next time screen the call. 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Alot of Jets fans NOT happy about this. They do not want Daboll or a Coordinator. They want a HC from college. Really I've seen plenty of Jets fans on their forum with him as a top pick but not thinking they'll get him. 9 minutes ago, Putin said: God no please anyone BUT the jests Honestly the Jets would be a dream for us as a team. He goes there the team continues to be a garbage fire do to bad ownership and we get him back after a few years. But I wouldn't really wish that on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Nah, I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Pay that man his money. Make it so good he won't want to leave. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, CommonCents said: I don’t think it’s a good position. You need to evaluate Darnold and move on (I think). If you miss on that decision you’re already half way out the door. Compare that to the Chargers job. Yeah, I agree that the Chargers are a better spot now given what they have on that roster. But in this thread, people think Daboll would be “brain dead” for taking the Jets job. It’s not that bad of a job. Probably better than Jax, which is a totally dead-end football and media market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Yav said: Pay that man his money. Make it so good he won't want to leave. That’s what I was thinking make him an offer he can’t refuse , But on a serious note if we win the SB this year and he’s got an opportunity to move up in his profession I wish him all the best , I just hope that it’s a team that I can actually root for , Edited January 4, 2021 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Jets job is spoken for, isn't it? Doug Marrone is finally incoming! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Realistically how much better than Herbert is Mahomes? He is in year 4 but Herbert just had the best season of any rookie QB in NFL history and he didn't even start week 1. Hard to see Mahomes being head and shoulders above Herbert. He might be better but it won't be Allen vs Tua. I'd say considerably better. Mahomes career YPA is over a yard higher than Herbert. Same with Mahomes NY/A and ANY/A. Sure - he has Kelce and Hill (occaisionally watkins too). But Herbert has Allen (best slot WR in the NFL), Hunter Henry (top 5 TE), and one of the best receiving backs in the NFL in Ekeler. Mahomes is an MVP winner, Super bowl MVP, and Super bowl winner. The guy slings it all over the field, has a cannon, and plays his best football in crunch time. Herbert had moments this year, however his top 3 targets (henry, allen, ekeler) all had aDOTs under 8 yards. He also had about 150 RB targets where they all had a sub 0 aDOT. Thats basically if 2/3 targets went to cole beasley and singletary. Not to say that he can't make downfield throws, because he did - just trying to say that he did not attack down field as much, or as often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Yeah, I agree that the Chargers are a better spot now given what they have on that roster. But in this thread, people think Daboll would be “brain dead” for taking the Jets job. It’s not that bad of a job. Probably better than Jax, which is a totally dead-end football and media market. Seems like as well as the Bills have played these past few months that he went from borderline HC to the HC that picks his job first. I’d be surprised if he chose NY or Jax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I think the Chargers is a much more realistic possibility QB in place Good organization I'm hearing Daboll has his choice of places to go this year. My guess would be the Chargers with so much talent on offense and Herbert looking a lot like Allen. Herbert had 4336 passing yards and 31 TDs. Keenen Allen, Hunter Henry, Austin Eckler... No brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 He will get more interviews, hopefully the other orgs don't like him or he doesn't like the other orgs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Yav said: Pay that man his money. Make it so good he won't want to leave. If I'm not mistaken, from a slip by Kirby Jackson statement that Daboll might already be one of the highest paid OC's in the NFL. Anyway, doubt he stays, as the LA chargers look so juicy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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