Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I'm already wanting to talk about this, so figured I'd do a thread. Who ya got and why? Same number of losses On paper, the Rams have a stingier defense. On paper, the Bucs have a more productive offense. I want to see Aaron Donald flexing over the bruised and groaning figure of Tom Brady, other than that I have no particular feelings. Thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo-Bah Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I mentioned this in one of the other nighttime GDT's that involved Tampa: I will only be checking in to confirm my total disgust for Tom Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I need 19 fantasy points from Brady, for once I'm cheering for at guy. but I might change my mind by days end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 F Brady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm already wanting to talk about this, so figured I'd do a thread. Who ya got and why? Same number of losses On paper, the Rams have a stingier defense. On paper, the Bucs have a more productive offense. I want to see Aaron Donald flexing over the bruised and groaning figure of Tom Brady, other than that I have no particular feelings. Thoughts? THAT would make my night!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Rams, SOV tiebreaker. Also, I hate Tom Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I'm rooting for Father Time to sack Tom Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The Rams have 6 wins. Five of them were against the 4 NFCE teams and the Bears. I expect Brady and the Bucs to win fairly easily, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Rams, SOV tiebreaker. Hope they "make it so" then Quote Also, I hate Tom Brady. The only think that would give me more pleasure than seeing Aaron Donald flexing over the bruised and groaning figure of Tom Brady would be similar going down with Gronk. I hate Gronk almost as much as Tom Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Process said: The Rams have 6 wins. Five of them were against the 4 NFCE teams and the Bears. Eh. What that comes down to is that both TB and the Rams beat a 7 win team (Packers or Seasnakes). Tampa also beat a 6 win team while Rams beat a 5 win team (Bears). Then Tampa beat a bunch of 4 win teams (Panthers x 2, Broncos) and 2 3 win teams (Chargers and Giants) while Rams beat a bunch (4) of 3 win teams. I'm not sure a strong argument can be made for the splendiferous stronger schedule the Bucs have taken out. Maybe strength-of-schedule mavens will comment. They've faced 2 common opponents. TB lost to the Bears; Rams beat the Bears. Both beat the Giants. 24 minutes ago, Process said: I expect Brady and the Bucs to win fairly easily, unfortunately. I hope they share your expectation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Hope they "make it so" then The only think that would give me more pleasure than seeing Aaron Donald flexing over the bruised and groaning figure of Tom Brady would be similar going down with Gronk. I hate Gronk almost as much as Tom Brady. This season has allowed me to sift through my feelings. I always knew that I hated Tom Brady, the Patriots and their fans. I thought I hated the Patriots organization the most, but I’m realizing my order or disdain goes; 1) Patriots fans I am friends with a bunch from college, but oh boy they’re unbearable. Most of them are so uninformed and entitled it’s embarrassing. They’re just humongous trolls. Then going to a game there last year cemented my feelings towards Pats fans. 3 separate instances I had to swoop in and stop random fans from getting physical and jumping my buddy. I was behind with a few of our Pats fan friends and was wearing a big coat over my Bills jersey so I blended in, he had a Bills jersey on (we all lived in the same college house, and outside of this Bills fan friend they were all my teammates) I literally saw a group point and single him out on the way into the stadium and come up and surround him. Two of my Pats friends and I had to come up and swoop him up out of there. Not a pretty scene. Leaving the stadium was worse, we all got separated and my Bills fan friend and I were trying to navigate our way out of the stadium. He got caught in a swarm and they were shoving him around like a kid on the playground and dumping beer and food on him. I had to slide through and grab him again, took a shot to the face and strategically slide behind a condiment table to separate us. They kept coming but I gave the first guy a stiff shot to the ribs and the group realized I knew what I was doing in a fight. Mind you, neither of us looked/said/gestured anything at any point. The worst part was nobody else stepped in at any point. I’ve had to step in at numerous Bills games, but at least people do it. Pats fans were almost cheering it on. 2) Tom Brady His behavior and presence embodied the worst things about the Patriots and their fans. He just egged it on and made it worse. He’s so difficult to like, I’m fairly certain nobody outside of NE does. 3) The Patriots The organization as a whole is whatever. Belichick is a great coach, and I respect that so much. I don’t really have issues with greatness. It’s the behavior of the groups listed above that make it intolerable. Edited November 23, 2020 by JGMcD2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Eh. What that comes down to is that both TB and the Rams beat a 7 win team (Packers or Seasnakes). Tampa also beat a 6 win team while Rams beat a 5 win team (Bears). Then Tampa beat a bunch of 4 win teams (Panthers x 2, Broncos) and 2 3 win teams (Chargers and Giants) while Rams beat a bunch (4) of 3 win teams. I'm not sure a strong argument can be made for the splendiferous stronger schedule the Bucs have taken out. Maybe strength-of-schedule mavens will comment. They've faced 2 common opponents. TB lost to the Bears; Rams beat the Bears. Both beat the Giants. I hope they share your expectation! I get your point. But you can't compare 3 win NFCE teams to other 3/4 win teams. They all play each other so obviously someone has to win. Teams like the chargers, panthers etc are a hell of a lot better then any NFCE team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The Rams can be dominant on football. If Aaron Donald has a great game I expect that Rams to win and it might be an easy win. When under p[pressure as we all know, Brady now is folding quicker than ever, look at the fiasco of a game he had versus the Saints. If the Rams defense shows up the Bucs will fold. If not, I expect a shootout in a very good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 41 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: 3) The Patriots The organization as a whole is whatever. Belichick is a great coach, and I respect that so much. I don’t really have issues with greatness. It’s the behavior of the groups listed above that make it intolerable. Sorry, I can not go down with your rank order. The #1 thing I despise about the Patriots is the cheating and that's organizational. Then there's all the petty crap over the years that Mark Sanchez so aptly detailed as "something always happens when you play Foxboro": "I would never say they're cheaters.... they're on a relentless pursuit of a competitive edge" He detailed: "The headset goes out. The ipad doesn't work. The pictures, back when we had pictures...." You know Mike Tomlin would agree. The NFL's upgrade to digital technology and VOIP on a dedicated frequency has made this harder to bugger, but Beantown is home to some of the best hackers in the world. I'm sure there's "plausible deniability" for the Patriots organization, but IMO the lack of organizational integrity permeates outward from Belichick and his staff out into the operational staff to everybody associated with the team and then the Fans. As I understand it, the Bills stay in RI when they travel for Pats games. The most convenient hotels to Foxboro apparently have too many tales of convenient "fire alarms" disturbing the players' rest. The sad thing is, the Patriots teams and Belicheck as a coach are genuinely great and did not need to cheat to be great. But they did. Sorry you & friend had a bad experience at Foxboro and no one intervened. I suspect there are bad opposing team experiences to be had in Orchard Park though, and there might be an element of chance in whether or not home-town fans intervene. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, clearwater cadet said: I need 19 fantasy points from Brady, for once I'm cheering for at guy. but I might change my mind by days end. I'm sorry, but that's just Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I want Tampa's defense to shut out LA, so that my fantasy team wins. A 0-0 tie would be cool. Or 0-7 with a Tampa pick 6 to end the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm sorry, but that's just Wrong. Hey I said I might change my mind 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I'm rooting for Father Time to sack Tom Brady. I know this is off the topic, but good call on Tua!, they were saying yesterday the films is out, so expect him to struggle a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Hutz Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I have a soft spot for the Bucs because they are my local team, but I have a hard time rooting for Brady. As far as this game goes I have no idea who will win. Both teams have looked good at times and awful at other times. The Bucs are like the Bills in that they have struggled in primetime games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, clearwater cadet said: I need 19 fantasy points from Brady, for once I'm cheering for at guy. but I might change my mind by days end. Take the loss and be happy with seeing this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I picked the Rams. The Bucs aren't consistent enough. They have a lot of egos to manage. They are up and down. And this week I think they will be down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Go Rams!!! Add another loss to Tawmys record! And make him look bad while you do it!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The only think that would give me more pleasure than seeing Aaron Donald flexing over the bruised and groaning figure of Tom Brady would be similar going down with Gronk. Why not both? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The sad thing is, the Patriots teams and Belicheck as a coach are genuinely great and did not need to cheat to be great. But they did. I don't agree when people say this. No one will ever know how good a coach Bellicheat would be (or how good Brady/Patriots would be) if he didn't cheat - because he did. People cheat for a reason - because they think they need to in order to win. And they continue to when they know it is giving them an (unfair) advantage. I do not believe Bellicheat comes close to the success which leads many to consider him "greatest ever' (not my belief) without implementing an unprecedented system of cheating over decades. Edited November 23, 2020 by stevewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I need 17.5 points from Devin White today. So far this year, he’s hit 19 once, and 17 twice. I’ll be rooting for a Goff pick-6. other than that, go Rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Jefferson break out game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I want to see Aaron Donald force Brady into the fetal position a number of times tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 6 hours ago, clearwater cadet said: I need 19 fantasy points from Brady, for once I'm cheering for at guy. but I might change my mind by days end. I hope you lose... traitor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Hope they "make it so" then The only think that would give me more pleasure than seeing Aaron Donald flexing over the bruised and groaning figure of Tom Brady would be similar going down with Gronk. I hate Gronk almost as much as Tom Brady. Hap, you really need to it hold back and speak you’re mind. 😏. I’m probably the only one rooting for Tampa as you guys know I live here. He’s been classy since here and just reaffirms to me how much I hate BB. There is a reason he left there on purpose. I understand the sentiment though. I do and expected with the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, frostbitmic said: I want to see Aaron Donald force Brady into the fetal position a number of times tonight. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Hap, you really need to it hold back and speak you’re mind. 😏. Well Now I'm All Confused. Am I holding it back, or am I speaking my mind? Either Or, Not Both! 2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: I’m probably the only one rooting for Tampa as you guys know I live here. He’s been classy since here and just reaffirms to me how much I hate BB. There is a reason he left there on purpose. You know, on a personal level, I would guess Tom is possibly an OK guy. He said some "good guy" things when asked about AB. On the other hand, he 100% participated in and benefited from some of the underhanded goings-on in Patriotsland. His TB12 book and method are designed to enrich himself by parting the common man from money he needs and that Brady doesn't, and his long-time buddy Alex Guerrero has a past history as an exploitative sleaze claiming to be a doctor and claiming to be able to cure cancer, AIDS, multiple sclerosis, heart disease, diabetes, arthritis, and Parkinson's disease using a dietary supplement called "Supreme Greens". He has been sued twice for allegedly defrauding investors in his health product business enterprises of hundreds of thousands of dollars in investment funds, and resolved the cases with settlements under undisclosed terms. If you associate with sleazy people who peddle false hope to the desperate and defraud others, it's hard to escape being labeled as likewise yourself, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I need <30 pts scored by TB to win FF this week. Outside of that, I hope' it's another good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I need <30 pts scored by TB to win FF this week. Outside of that, I hope' it's another good game. I misread this. So you need Rams to keep TB <30. Hope they oblige. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm already wanting to talk about this, so figured I'd do a thread. Who ya got and why? Same number of losses On paper, the Rams have a stingier defense. On paper, the Bucs have a more productive offense. I want to see Aaron Donald flexing over the bruised and groaning figure of Tom Brady, other than that I have no particular feelings. Thoughts? You made my post for me I am going to watch this game in its entirety just for that moment If he(AD) can get to Josh then TB12 will be a sitting duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Let's give the ball to the big slow guy on a sweep. Woods is better though there wasn't much there. Edited November 24, 2020 by jkeerie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well Now I'm All Confused. Am I holding it back, or am I speaking my mind? Either Or, Not Both! You know, on a personal level, I would guess Tom is possibly an OK guy. He said some "good guy" things when asked about AB. On the other hand, he 100% participated in and benefited from some of the underhanded goings-on in Patriotsland. His TB12 book and method are designed to enrich himself by parting the common man from money he needs and that Brady doesn't, and his long-time buddy Alex Guerrero has a past history as an exploitative sleaze claiming to be a doctor and claiming to be able to cure cancer, AIDS, multiple sclerosis, heart disease, diabetes, arthritis, and Parkinson's disease using a dietary supplement called "Supreme Greens". He has been sued twice for allegedly defrauding investors in his health product business enterprises of hundreds of thousands of dollars in investment funds, and resolved the cases with settlements under undisclosed terms. If you associate with sleazy people who peddle false hope to the desperate and defraud others, it's hard to escape being labeled as likewise yourself, IMO. Sarcasm brother. I know you’re not holding back. You know me by now. As far as TB, that’s why I understand why so many can’t stand the guy. I guess I just feel for my fellow Tampa folks here who finally have some hope on their team as maybe not as bad as Buffalo during the drought, but it has sucked down here for people who may not be Bills mafia, but some good fans. As I said, I know I’m in the extreme minority on this board as expected. It is odd fir me to root for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I don’t understand why the Bucs are heavy favorite they have really been inconsistent and Rams are an pretty good ,I’ve picked the Rams to win am I missing something here ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Putin said: I don’t understand why the Bucs are heavy favorite they have really been inconsistent and Rams are an pretty good ,I’ve picked the Rams to win am I missing something here ? I agree and I think it's the Brady hype. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) I almost forgot we even played the Rams... man, our schedule has been brutal. Edited November 24, 2020 by SCBills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I like McVay’s offensive concepts. He really knows how to get a defense running around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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