WEATHER DOT COM Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 FWIW Bills and Seahawks got the most talk and coverage in the Sunday Night Football pregame show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I think Tua can be at least Marcus Mariota. He made some good throws yesterday and also some poor decisions. Cardinals didn't bring much pressure, so I'd like to see some teams blitz him more and see how he handles pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, dorquemada said: dont forget duck dodgers or whatever his name was last year on the steelers IN THE TWENTY FIRST AND ONE FIFTH CENTURY! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I think the fins will surround tua with better talent than what New Jersey has done with Darnold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: Also, don’t get me wrong- I’m not saying Tua played poorly. He could be a hall of famer for all I know- too early to say. i guess my overall point is this: The media has QB’s they love, regardless of how they play, and QB’s they are apathetic about, regardless of how they play. They loved Rosen pre-draft. They loved Darnold and still refuse to take the L on that. I agree with you. I believe it is too early to tell on Tua. When I compare the first two games of Justin Herbert to Tua's, there's no contest. Herbert has displayed a stronger arm, better command of his offence, and a much better ability to run with the ball. I do think that Tua benefited from playing with superior talent at Alabama and may be over rated as a result. Time will tell if he ultimately develops into a QB worthy of a top 10 pick (provided he can stay healthy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Greg S said: 7-2 overall 4-0 in the division. Josh outdueled arguably the best QB in the game. The media ignores us....who cares! Besides I like it better when the Bills fly under the radar. Now, now. Not all the "media". There is plenty of recognition for Josh yesterday. People need to stop saying Stats Based Outlets as the media, 42 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: FWIW Bills and Seahawks got the most talk and coverage in the Sunday Night Football pregame show. other than Tom Brady getting his ass kicked??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: Maybe im a homer, but for two years I have been annoyed by media falling all over Darnold while hating on Allen. If Darnold sucked, it was his surrounding cast taking the blame. If Allen did something wrong it was “well we knew he was inconsistent coming out.” Well now Darnold is done and Allen is a bonafide star, so you would think the positive energy would go towards Allen... right? But so far, after yesterday, here’s what I’m seeing: ”Seattle’s defense is so bad and really allowed Allen to work.” ”My god!! Did you see Tua? That was ***** amazing!” am I imagining this? Ya gotta remember that any team we beat is no longer considered good, I mean they were a good team, right up until we beat them... Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) The Jets under Gase, like it was at Miami, are toxic. I still think Darnold could develop with the right team. Tannehill looks good. Tua looked very good for his 2nd NFL game. I think Miami’s staff has a solid plan. Edited November 9, 2020 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: I agree with you. I believe it is too early to tell on Tua. When I compare the first two games of Justin Herbert to Tua's, there's no contest. Herbert has displayed a stronger arm, better command of his offence, and a much better ability to run with the ball. I do think that Tua benefited from playing with superior talent at Alabama and may be over rated as a result. Time will tell if he ultimately develops into a QB worthy of a top 10 pick (provided he can stay healthy). All athletes benefit from superior talent / coaching and with Tua displaying the same confidence and comfort level in a Chan Gailey NFL Offense as I've seen Tua play with under Saban in just 2 games speaks volumes IMO. There is a contest and we get to see these guys compete on the biggest stage football has to offer. Edited November 9, 2020 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 hours ago, thebandit27 said: I think Tua will be good, but watching national media lose their minds because he threw for 250 yards in a game where they won due to a kicker missing a 49 yard FG short is a little ridiculous. it’s annoying and I see right through it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 The Tua talk this morning is hilarious. He had 90 yards last week lmao. And after one decent game against a trash defense there are already people calling him a future MVP. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) Meh, Tua's new and he had a good game vs the #1 pick from the year before, of course people would be excited to talk about it. Josh and the Bills are getting plenty of deserved love for their signature win, but I love that it's not seen as exciting as the 2 other big stories of the weekend: Tua's big game & Tompa Bay crapping the bed at home. We were a 6-2 team who convincingly beat a 6-1 team, albeit with the presumptive MVP, in our own stadium. I'm glad the national media isn't treating it like a total shock. Edited November 9, 2020 by 416BillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I don’t see Tua beating Allen in a shootout... I just don’t... Could see Tua being a good QB, but I don’t see him putting up 450 yards and 5 TDs the way Allen can... Miami does have a good team though but I’m not really overly concerned by them.. Buffalo could have a Championship team if this defense figures things out and I think they can... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Tua hype is a little wild. I get being excited for the guy but even good morning football (who are typically all over the Bills) said they’re less excited about the win over the Hawks because they’re all in on Tua. Seems a bit early for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: I don’t see Tua beating Allen in a shootout... I just don’t... Could see Tua being a good QB, but I don’t see him putting up 450 yards and 5 TDs the way Allen can... Miami does have a good team though but I’m not really overly concerned by them.. Buffalo could have a Championship team if this defense figures things out and I think they can... Fan of Tua and I agree, ( I'm fighting it ) Not one person in the league I would prefer more over Allen. Good competition makes the games more enjoyable IMO. It makes each team in the Division better IMO. Edited November 9, 2020 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 hours ago, whatdrought said: Maybe im a homer, but for two years I have been annoyed by media falling all over Darnold while hating on Allen. If Darnold sucked, it was his surrounding cast taking the blame. If Allen did something wrong it was “well we knew he was inconsistent coming out.” Well now Darnold is done and Allen is a bonafide star, so you would think the positive energy would go towards Allen... right? But so far, after yesterday, here’s what I’m seeing: ”Seattle’s defense is so bad and really allowed Allen to work.” ”My god!! Did you see Tua? That was ***** amazing!” am I imagining this? The hype itself could be, but I think the situations are very different IMO I think Darnold was taken about where he should have been drafted and has just under performed badly, though much may not be his fault as much as the team and coaching. He also did produce in college and not on an extremely stacked team. The only knock on him coming out was he has alot of turnovers Tua while basically drafted almost as high, IMO way too high. He just seems more a case of playing on an extremely stacked Bama team that completed or won the national championship every year. Questionable size for the NFL too. So while the hype is certainly there, will be much less surprised if Tua fails than I was with Darnold. Darnold could become another Tannerhill too where he goes to another team and succeeds which really would be a knock on Gase as he was also Tannerhill's coach. Conversely would be more surprised if Tua were to leave Miami in a year or two and did better elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Figster said: Fan of Tua and I agree, Not one person in the league I would prefer more over Allen. Good competition makes the games more enjoyable IMO. It makes each team in the Division better IMO. As much as I agree I’m fine with Tua being the other big name in the East and that being where it ends. Id like to see the Jets and Pats flounder for a while and not have to see the hype train pull in for Lawrence if the Jets continue to flop. Let some other division get a guy. I’m sick of all the presumed good ones finding their way to the afc east. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 hours ago, nucci said: why can't you guys just enjoy the game? That game was great to watch and both QBs made a lot of plays Nuch, man, it was a good game. Honestly, in my sole and humble opinion nobody can compare to my satisfaction the four major sports. Football has just plain been better to watch than the others. Cowboys/ Steelers yesterday, are you kidding me?! One team was 2-6 and was still balling with their third string qb (shoutout to Gale) on the last play of the game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: other than Tom Brady getting his ass kicked??? That wasn't on the Sunday Night Football pregame show but it'll be on tonight's pregame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 The Cardinal announcers were praising Tua, but mentioned that he looks very different when they got pressure on him. Without pressure, Tua was carving them up. With pressure, he had some errant throws. It’s only two games, so who knows how he turns out, but that’s certainly very Darnold-like, before the Jets took a sledgehammer to his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: The Cardinal announcers were praising Tua, but mentioned that he looks very different when they got pressure on him. Without pressure, Tua was carving them up. With pressure, he had some errant throws. It’s only two games, so who knows how he turns out, but that’s certainly very Darnold-like, before the Jets took a sledgehammer to his career. he did seem to go down easily on a couple of sacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Yes, I'm listening to Colin Cowherd now and the Tua spin is in full effect "If Miami played Buffalo tomorrow, I'm taking Miami" I watched the 2nd half of Tua's game yesterday and there was 1 main thing that stuck out to me: His arm strength is really bad. I was actually shocked at how bad a few of his balls looked coming out especially when he's pressured. When he does up against a defense that can pressure I think hes going to look lost. Hes young and has some ability to pick up 1sts with his legs, but his lack of size, and arm strength is not a combo Id want in a QB I'm looking to build around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIrvine Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I’d like to know why Mayfield still gets commercial endorsements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Estro said: Yes, I'm listening to Colin Cowherd now and the Tua spin is in full effect "If Miami played Buffalo tomorrow, I'm taking Miami" I watched the 2nd half of Tua's game yesterday and there was 1 main thing that stuck out to me: His arm strength is really bad. I was actually shocked at how bad a few of his balls looked coming out especially when he's pressured. When he does up against a defense that can pressure I think hes going to look lost. Hes young and has some ability to pick up 1sts with his legs, but his lack of size, and arm strength is not a combo Id want in a QB I'm looking to build around 🙃Homer reaction.. Tua will be a constant All-Pro within 2-3 years. Most accurate passer I have ever seen. His arm strength is better than Brees and he's done just fine. Puhllllllease with this. You sound a little scared that after the Jets grab Trevor Lawrence next year that, the Bills will have the 3rd best QB in the division. 5 hours ago, whatdrought said: It’s not about not enjoying the game... but seeing the media’s reaction to the game is part of that. tell me Darnold wasn’t artificially propped up by the media the past few years while Allen has to work twice as hard to get respect? 🤣. Need a tissue ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterian Bills Fan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Tua played decent and looks promising as a rookie but time will tell as the tape on him circulates. Personally I've decided not to worry about the AZ game or the playoff race again until after MNF, don't know why people can't savour the best win of the season. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Nick Wright on “first things first” always has some gems... this mornings was Allen’s game doesn’t mean a thing because it was against the Seahawks defense and Tua is already the best QB in the East. This was coming from a guy that, just 2 weeks ago, praised Kyler Murray for out dueling Wilson.... but Allen’s game doesn’t count. Impressive takes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 The NFL media "hyping" Tua is a good thing. He is unproven as of now and I'm hoping he is reading and believing the hype. He's got 2 games of tape and more is to come. NFL defenses adjust and scheme and he will get tested every week from here out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 6 hours ago, whatdrought said: Maybe im a homer, but for two years I have been annoyed by media falling all over Darnold while hating on Allen. If Darnold sucked, it was his surrounding cast taking the blame. If Allen did something wrong it was “well we knew he was inconsistent coming out.” Well now Darnold is done and Allen is a bonafide star, so you would think the positive energy would go towards Allen... right? But so far, after yesterday, here’s what I’m seeing: ”Seattle’s defense is so bad and really allowed Allen to work.” ”My god!! Did you see Tua? That was ***** amazing!” am I imagining this? I watched a fair amount the the fish game yesterday and some in previous weeks. Tua is improving steadily every week and played well in a tight game pressure situation yesterday. In terms of Seattle's D yesterday, I found myself wondering even with Wilson, how could a team have 6 wins with essentially a high school level defense. The hardest decision for Josh yesterday was which wide open receiver to throw to. Basically Tua is the shiny new QB in a market far more popular than Buffalo. If this sort of thing pisses you off, prepare to be pissed off a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Danold's is having the same early career issue as Ryan Tannehill, its called Adam Gase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Time after time after time, a quarterback comes barnstorming onto the scene, dicing up defenses and destroying the opposition, and everyone in the media declares them "the next big thing". Time after time after time, defenses get tape on the new gunslinger, figure out his weaknesses, and start limiting his effectiveness. We saw it with Mayfield, we saw it with Lamar Jackson, we saw it Trubisky...it happens again and again, and analysts never learn from their mistakes. Could Tua be great in this league? Absolutely! He may well have a bright future, and we may well be in for a decade+ of Allen vs Tua for AFC East supremacy. Am I willing to crown him after two games, though? Absolutely not. Let's see how he does the rest of this season, and then how he does next season, once opposing coaches have 10 games of tape on him. For the record, I think Tua WILL be a very good QB in this league, but it is waaaay too early to state it as a certainty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 6 hours ago, nucci said: why can't you guys just enjoy the game? That game was great to watch and both QBs made a lot of plays Yeah, I agree. Tua being good and people saying good things about him doesn't mean that Allen is bad or people think badly of Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Duck Hodges had a QB rating over 100 for his first few games. His last 3 averaged around 42. Tua is a much better athlete of course but what happened to the Duck was tape and it takes only 1 team's defense to find a weakness. Tua has way more to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Process said: The Tua talk this morning is hilarious. He had 90 yards last week lmao. And after one decent game against a trash defense there are already people calling him a future MVP. To be fair, 97 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUBSTER Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 hours ago, LeGOATski said: "Tuna"....from Alabsma This is my new nickname for the rookie, lol. Thank you He does show some magic, though. Like Josh did his first year. Gonna take time. I hope "Tuna" fails though HA! Love the name. I see the Dolphins this year as the Bills last year. Great defense with a young QB who shows flashes, just need a few more pieces to finish the puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Duck Hodges had a QB rating over 100 for his first few games. His last 3 averaged around 42. Tua is a much better athlete of course but what happened to the Duck was tape and it takes only 1 team's defense to find a weakness. Tua has way more to prove. *Weak* Comparing one of the most talented college QB's EVER to a Duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said: *Weak* Comparing one of the most talented college QB's EVER to a Duck. If you read my post I said Tua is much more talented. Good grief, my statements are about tape on any unknown QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said: *Weak* Comparing one of the most talented college QB's EVER to a Duck. I've seen trolls. And I've seen trolls...but MAN I have never seen a troll like this. Troll's gonna troll. It's beyond a doubt your right to post here, but why do you bother posting on an opposing team's message board? Serious question. I just would love to get into the mind of someone who would find that interesting... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, CIrvine said: I’d like to know why Mayfield still gets commercial endorsements. He's likely under a long term contract and the advertisers keep it going since people recognize his face or the ads are working. As I admit the dropping the keys at the gate with groceries is entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Keep the same aggressive game plan against Tua like you did with Wilson. If Wilson makes mistakes, certainly Tua will make mistakes. People on this board need to watch more college football. Tua was a monster at the highest college level. He is the real deal, as I've said many times. He and Josh will be dukin' it out for many years to come. It will be fun, bc both are great players to watch play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Prior to his injury Tua was the most hyped QB prospect since Luck, and unlike with Allen the media hasn't seen him struggle (at any level). It shouldn't be a surprise that people are going nuts after he had a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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