Simon Says Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, WMDman said: hes listed at 6'3 210 210? Did you mean 290? Some sites list him at 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, dorquemada said: 100% guaranteeing that KC will run strait up the middle all night long Okay, that's possible. But this benching won't hurt the Bills' chances of stopping such an attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: Not dressing them comes as a shocker for sure. They must see something in film and are making an example to the whole defense here. Got to be some form of motivational move. Making them inactive sounds like there is more to it than just poor play. They must have finally told McD what they think of his clapping. Message sent to the locker room. I hope they sign and then cut Tashard Choice so that the offense gets the same message. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just my opinion, but these moves aren’t good enough by themselves. We know their limitations. We need NEW. DL guys are available both on the street and via trade. Somebody wake up Brandon! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Thats also a lot of your rotation. Plugging 1 player into a rotation is one thing - now you have all these changes Addison and Hughes play the same side - 1 will play out of position no matter what on passing downs. Oliver is still the primary 3T still - but the 1T is phillips or jefferson. Jefferson would be out of position there on rushing downs. Jefferson may also rotate at DE with addison and hughes. Lot on that guys plate. Epenesa stepping up could give Hughes and addison some breathers, while also giving hughes some snaps on his natural side. Butler should be a rotational 3T but they are likely to have to play him at 1T since Phillips has struggled so badly. So even with new faces, its just a lot of turnover. No preseason, fewer practices. As we go into next season, outside of Oliver, everyone else is playing as a depth player versus starter on the DL. Not sure if any of them would start on other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, High Football IQ said: He played for 2 1/2 games last year, not saying he was terrible but he wasn't on his way to a probowl season either. My point is that you can't dominate up front in this league with a bunch of undersized players and we already have one of those as a key piece we just made a major investment in with Oliver (who BTW really needs to start doing something before he reaches Eric Flowers status). Harrison Phillips is 6'3" and 306 pounds. I don't think he is undersized. Anyway, stopping the run is not the important thing this game. Getting pressure on Mahomes is. That's likely why Phillips is inactive. And Murphy isn't really that good regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Richard Noggin said: Okay, that's possible. But this benching won't hurt the Bills' chances of stopping such an attack. Oh, agreed 100%. and if it makes KC rethink their plan at all based on the move then there's more value in this move then simply getting dead weight off the field. I was yelling at the TV last week watching Murphy getting blown 10 yards off every play. Hell i would go in there and do that for half his salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said: Who are we playing if Hughes/Addison get banged up in this game? Bojo gets the go go? "Here, kid, just kick them!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Making them inactive sounds like there is more to it than just poor play. They must have finally told McD what they think of his clapping. Message sent to the locker room. I hope they sign and then cut Tashard Choice so that the offense gets the same message. He’s coaching the RBs at Georgia tech now. They were talking about it during their game last week and I was wondering how many messages were being sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 We rotate way to much on the d line. I understand the idea of freshness but rotating guys who suck in, just hurts you. Play the good ones as much as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I'm not 100% sure how I feel about Phillips at the moment. I do feel like he has been asked to play in a manner that isn't his strength, but I also feel like he just has to be better. Coming out of college, wasn't he seen as the penetrating DT? Is he not being asked to do that or is he just unable at this level? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: We rotate way to much on the d line. I understand the idea of freshness but rotating guys who suck in, just hurts you. Play the good ones as much as possible I like the idea - its like line changes in hockey. You have a group for 3rd and long, or 3rd and short etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said: As we go into next season, outside of Oliver, everyone else is playing as a depth player versus starter on the DL. Not sure if any of them would start on other teams. bad take Hughes and Addison are starters on most NFL teams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That's more along the lines of what I was thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Not a huge surprise. They both stunk last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, berg1029 said: I'm not 100% sure how I feel about Phillips at the moment. I do feel like he has been asked to play in a manner that isn't his strength, but I also feel like he just has to be better. Coming out of college, wasn't he seen as the penetrating DT? Is he not being asked to do that or is he just unable at this level? He's playing at 1T so between center and guard. He's not creating any kind of havoc, getting moved, and free blockers are getting to the 2nd level regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, dorquemada said: 100% guaranteeing that KC will run strait up the middle all night long Let them. That chews more clock and takes the ball out of their best player’s hands (Mahomes). Exact same strategy Belichick deployed against the Bills in Super Bowl XXV. Gave Thurman his yards to chew clock and prevent Jimbo and co from going off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, dorquemada said: 100% guaranteeing that KC will run strait up the middle all night long That might be what they're hoping for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Just my opinion, but these moves aren’t good enough by themselves. We know their limitations. We need NEW. DL guys are available both on the street and via trade. Somebody wake up Brandon! Beane is certainly not shy about making moves. Given his history we have to assume of there were any quality players available he would be all over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, Process said: Wow. I like it. Mostly because they had to do SOMETHING. Phillips has been really, really bad. DT will be a major need this off-season. They both won't be on this team next year. Most of our defense will need to be revamped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 You just have to hope Butler can anchor the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: They both won't be on this team next year. Most of our defense will need to be revamped. Ideally we will have 3-4 new starters in the front 7 next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 All I know is that Mahomes can be beat if we can get to him. We need agile pass rushers who won't be made to look foolish when he gets outside the pocket. We all know we have great coaches. Great coach put the right players in the right places at the right time. I trust this decision and expect to see it pay off tonight. I just wish it hadn't been leaked. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, dje85 said: I respect his clapping prowess I respect his that since he was losing his hair, he just shaved it and not do a come over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, scribo said: I just wish it hadn't been leaked Umm, it's less than 3 hours to game time. You think Andy Reid just scrapped his game plan? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, berg1029 said: I'm not 100% sure how I feel about Phillips at the moment. I do feel like he has been asked to play in a manner that isn't his strength, but I also feel like he just has to be better. Coming out of college, wasn't he seen as the penetrating DT? Is he not being asked to do that or is he just unable at this level? Honestly I think he hasn't recovered from the injury. He was a beast last year before he got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I hope the Chiefs 100% run up the middle the whole game, much better than Mahomes burning us deep all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Georgie said: 210? Did you mean 290? Some sites list him at 300 I meant 310 whoopise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Process said: Ideally we will have 3-4 new starters in the front 7 next year Harrison, Hughes and Murphy will be gone 100% certain. Probably 2-3 others. Take your pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Also using two inactive spots on healthy guys is a really good sign for Milano white and brown, definitely seems like we will have all three back which is HUGE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, eball said: Umm, it's less than 3 hours to game time. You think Andy Reid just scrapped his game plan? Have to game plan around game breakers such as Harrison Phillips and Trent Murphy. It’s like Aaron Donald and Joey Bosa 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, dorquemada said: 100% guaranteeing that KC will run strait up the middle all night long In fact thats what they have been doing. I watched their past two games and they run mostly up the middle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Process said: Also using two inactive spots on healthy guys is a really good sign for Milano white and brown, definitely seems like we will have all three back which is HUGE. Would be amazing. Need all hands on deck today for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 While getting their best pass rushers on the field more surely plays a part in this decision, I think it also means the Bills will be copying the Raiders’ strategy and dropping 8 all game long. Guessing it also means White and Milano play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, DJB said: In fact thats what they have been doing. I watched their past two games and they run mostly up the middle.... I was wondering how they have been running considering Edwards-Helaire is a shorter back. This answers my question before I even had to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Process said: Also using two inactive spots on healthy guys is a really good sign for Milano white and brown, definitely seems like we will have all three back which is HUGE. Different positions. I don't think that's the case at all. But let's hope they are back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Phillips makes sense to me based on his performance and the opponent. Murphy not so much - I am terrified of watching Darryl Johnson sell out over and over again on run fakes schemed up by Reid. Not that I love Murphy but I’d have thought a veteran end would be a better play against the Chiefs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: That's one thing I do respect about McDermott, he won't hesitate making changes if there's struggles. He may be slow to make a change (at least in fans minds), but when he does, it's usually effective 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Logic said: While getting their best pass rushers on the field more surely plays a part in this decision, I think it also means the Bills will be copying the Raiders’ strategy and dropping 8 all game long. Guessing it also means White and Milano play. That strategy works IF the 3 you rush actually can generate pressure. I don’t have much confidence in our D line to do that. Hopefully I’m proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: I was wondering how they have been running considering Edwards-Helaire is a shorter back. This answers my question before I even had to ask. I figured they would be a outside zone scheme since CEH isn't big or really fast but I've seen a ton of his runs right up the pipe the past two weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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