Southern Bills Fan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 He clearly had possession with the ball breaking the plane of the goal line. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The Refs Suck 14 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Southern Bills Fan said: He clearly had possession with the ball breaking the plane of the goal line. Bad call. And, they didn't want to put the 3d quarter back on the clock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Your weekly "Refs have been drinking" play. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Southern Bills Fan said: He clearly had possession with the ball breaking the plane of the goal line. They ruled on the field he didn't break the plane once he had possession and there wasn't enough to overturn it...apparently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: The Refs Suck The Carr fumble that was not really evidences that FACT. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I can’t, looked good to me, two feet in and down possession across the line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Two Words: Al Riveron Edited October 5, 2020 by CSBill 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Terrible call.... Im not normally one to complain about the Refs, but they never seem to get much going their way on these replay calls.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I think what might of bothered me more was the fact the ref didn’t call it a touchdown live. I don’t know how they stand right there, see the whole play and rule it down at the inch mark. That ball was over the goal line the whole way until brown went down. Really really weird call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The falling to the ground stuff has to end. The rules clearly stipulate that forward progress is when possession is gained by the receiver. Do they need to make a football move first? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 There’s a new rule wrt receiver going to ground apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Paulus said: The Carr fumble that was not really evidences that FACT. this was a worse call. He wasn’t down by contact or forward momentum stopped. Watching it real time— he wasn’t even close to going down and then laterals it back. What an awful call. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: He clearly had possession with the ball breaking the plane of the goal line. I don’t know, but as soon as they said that Gene Steratore thought it was a TD I knew we were screwed. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Your weekly "Refs have been drinking" play. So were the commentators. At the end, one of the bozo’s said..”and Carr is ready to mount a comeback”. The Bills were getting ready to kneel on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 That call was just wrong. Really bad 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Rc2catch said: I think what might of bothered me more was the fact the ref didn’t call it a touchdown live. I don’t know how they stand right there, see the whole play and rule it down at the inch mark. That ball was over the goal line the whole way until brown went down. Really really weird call It wasn't called a TD live because of the bobble... It was enough for the ref to say...."wait possession wasn't right away, so I'll go with where he lands.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: this was a worse call. He wasn’t down by contact or forward momentum stopped. Watching it real time— he wasn’t even close to going down and then laterals it back. What an awful call. Agreed Horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: They ruled on the field he didn't break the plane once he had possession and there wasn't enough to overturn it...apparently Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, nkreed said: It wasn't called a TD live because of the bobble... It was enough for the ref to say...."wait possession wasn't right away, so I'll go with where he lands.' Ref head bobble as his jaw hit the floor with Allen dropping a friggin DIME!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 There were some odd calls throughout the game, the hold on Diggs on the end of a run going out of bounds behind him was weak as hell, and the Raiders were assessed some head-scratchers too. Brown had possession and the ball broke the plane of the goal line it is a TD. Not sure why possession when it is a Bills player seems to entail something extra, or why a tie that wasn't a tie was awarded to the defense with Kroft the prior week. Just bad calls, but they called back that Raiders TD for the illegal formation. Those are usually pre-snap mistakes rather than judgement calls, but either way it went our way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The non-fumble by Carr was a worse call. Ridiculous to call that forward progress. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 They didn’t want the Raiders to get too far from the spread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Last week it was the interception call when Tyler Kroft clearly hit the ground with possession of an Allen pass. This week Carr didn't hit the turf during a Bills pass rush, fumbled and they ruled forward progress to negate a Bills recovery. What? Then, how could Brown have possession of a pass with the ball clearly over the goal line and it was ruled short of the TD? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Because Al Riveron is a moron. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, CSBill said: To Words: Al Riveron Two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The announcers brushed it off, but it was 100% clear to me. When you paused the video, he had possession, his knees hadn't touched and the ball was over the plane. Had we not punched it in, I'd be all kinds of loony right now. It made no sense to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, nkreed said: It wasn't called a TD live because of the bobble... It was enough for the ref to say...."wait possession wasn't right away, so I'll go with where he lands.' I can’t believe it given some of the terrible calls they call players in and the ball never gets close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 You have to decide the moment he established possession. Two feet, football move etc. it was close. Close goes to call on field. It was not worth the challenge imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Honestly, I wonder if you can challenge a play that happened the prior quarter. It wasn't mentioned, but what about the half? It was technically the last play, but the 3d quarter was already off the clock. Probably in the rule book, but I wonder how itd work for like the end of a half, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rk_Bills86 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 So... lets simplify it by saying it's a horrendously bad call - although it didn't end up mattering. The reason they came up with was, he was moving away and down while establishing control..... essentially they are saying due to how he was falling, he didn't have control until he hit the ground at which point he was out of the endzone. He clearly had control as he was falling and it should have been a TD because he was over the plane for such a LONG time. Bad Call and they are trying to save face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 If that is not a TD, I simply don't understand the rules. ergo.. I don't understand the rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 No. It was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, wjag said: If that is not a TD, I simply don't understand the rules. ergo.. I don't understand the rules. Fans have not understood the rules forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, WideNine said: There were some odd calls throughout the game, the hold on Diggs on the end of a run going out of bounds behind him was weak as hell, and the Raiders were assessed some head-scratchers too. Yeah that last block in the back they called on the Raiders was super weak. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, mattynh said: Fans have not understood the rules forever. Explain the "going down" rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Nobody can explain that, and nobody can explain the Carr non-fumble. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 They said something about him going backwards toward the ground. That makes no sense. That was a TD. He had control of the ball and ball broke the plane. Now perhaps if he lost control on going to the ground maybe he doesnt complete the catch. But he did habe control to the ground. Will be interesting to see if NFL gives some explanation. The quick whistle on Carr is terrible. There is no way in real time the ref had blown that play dead. He decided it after the fact. Carr had barely gotten wrapped up when the ball came out. Terrible call by officials. But as always there is no agenda. They don't want the Raiders to win because they are in a new market. They don't have a bias against the Bills. They are just bad calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, StHustle said: Yeah that last block in the back they called on the Raiders was super weak. Lol I remember seeing that and the guy put a hand that barely grazed Milanos back he just ended up whiffing on the tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: Explain the "going down" rule. I’m a fan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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