prissythecat Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 The 49ers have significant talent on both sides of ball as evidenced by Superbowl run last year. However, I believe that they are being held back by a very limited QB in Jimmy Garoppolo who cannot make enough plays to overcome situations where game is close or there is not a huge talent differential. This is certainly a very different situation from few seasons ago when lots of folks were ready to anoint Garoppolo as the next elite QB. Thoughts on where the 49ers should be going with QB ? You can only retain so much talent for so long and windows close quickly. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, prissythecat said: The 49ers have significant talent on both sides of ball as evidenced by Superbowl run last year. However, I believe that they are being held back by a very limited QB in Jimmy Garoppolo who cannot make enough plays to overcome situations where game is close or there is not a huge talent differential. This is certainly a very different situation from few seasons ago when lots of folks were ready to anoint Garoppolo as the next elite QB. Thoughts on where the 49ers should be going with QB ? You can only retain so much talent for so long and windows close quickly. Barkley for Jimmy G, straight up! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 In today's NFL if you don't have very good to elite mobility at the QB position you better be very special in the pocket. Nobody will confuse Jimmy G with being a very special player in the pocket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, prissythecat said: The 49ers have significant talent on both sides of ball as evidenced by Superbowl run last year. However, I believe that they are being held back by a very limited QB in Jimmy Garoppolo who cannot make enough plays to overcome situations where game is close or there is not a huge talent differential. This is certainly a very different situation from few seasons ago when lots of folks were ready to anoint Garoppolo as the next elite QB. Thoughts on where the 49ers should be going with QB ? You can only retain so much talent for so long and windows close quickly. This is how I feel about the Bills. Is Allen the guy? We need to know by the end of this season. (They don't have anywhere near the talent we have in the RB and WR room.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just saw a recent QB ranking list by some supposed "expert" football writer that had Allen at #20 and Jimmy G in the top 10. Also had Burrow at #26 despite never having played a snap in the NFL and Allen not getting ranked in preseason when he was a rookie. Jimmy G is just going to get that automatic big market respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: In today's NFL if you don't have very good to elite mobility at the QB position you better be very special in the pocket. Nobody will confuse Jimmy G with being a very special player in the pocket. I dunno man, did you see the play yesterday where he twirled around in a circle at least three times in the pocket!!?? Thats very special lol 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Jimmy G is just going to get that automatic big market respect. Plus he was drafted by Belichick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I've been saying this about Garoppolo ever since he was drafted..... Overrated!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Jimmy ain’t going anywhere the next year or two. Shanahan is a run coach and will always prioritize his run game first. Their receivers are a hot mess right now as well. Little quick to judge after one game. I don’t think he’s a top 15 quarterback but they’ve already proven they can win with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: Plus he was drafted by Belichick Well that too, I guess. Would have been nice if Belichick had gotten his wish later and not had his trade of Brady vetoed by Kraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 The 49ers took a 3 point lead 1/3 of the way into the 4th Q. Then the D gives up a TD. The Garoppolo drives down for a TD to regain the lead. The their D gives up another TD on the Cardinal's next drive. Garoppolo drives them again down to the AZ 16. Came up incomplate on 4th and 5. He threw 2 TDs, 259 yards. It wasn't awful. SF's vaunted D couldn't stop Kyler Murray in the 4th Q (despite given TWO leads to protect). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: Jimmy ain’t going anywhere the next year or two. Shanahan is a run coach and will always prioritize his run game first. Their receivers are a hot mess right now as well. Little quick to judge after one game. I don’t think he’s a top 15 quarterback but they’ve already proven they can win with him. Pat McAfee said a big plus for Jimmy G is he doesn't mind constantly handing off the ball if it leads to wins, vs all the other QBs who get upset if they're not hitting 300 passing yards per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, 1ManRaid said: Pat McAfee said a big plus for Jimmy G is he doesn't mind constantly handing off the ball if it leads to wins, vs all the other QBs who get upset if they're not hitting 300 passing yards per game. Lol I wouldn’t mind either if I had that contract. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: Jimmy ain’t going anywhere the next year or two. Shanahan is a run coach and will always prioritize his run game first. Their receivers are a hot mess right now as well. Little quick to judge after one game. I don’t think he’s a top 15 quarterback but they’ve already proven they can win with him. They also can't give up on him because they have so much guaranteed money tied into his contract. He's a game manager. Their defense and their running game were bigger reasons why they went to the Super Bowl last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I've been saying this about Garoppolo ever since he was drafted..... Overrated!!! All part of the master plan from BB. Lose Brady, bring back JG on the cheap after he flames out in SF. Pats get their next system QB for another 10 years. FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 They also have NO wr's right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I'll admit it: I was terrified Garropolo would take over for the Pats after Brady left. I thought they found another gem & he'd carry them to another decade of success. I'm still not quite ready to write him off, though. I thought he was pretty solid in the SB last year, though not great. Yesterday he looked pretty middlin'. But I noticed that America has become even more addicted to hot takes this season (Brady is washed! BB was clearly more responsible for their run!) So, I'll give this one more time to render any kind of verdict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 He comes up small in the clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 He was terrible yesterday. He’s ok if he has a good game plan, his line keeps him clean and the moon is in the third quadrant of the sky. Otherwise he’s trash. He’s Kirk Cousins - just good enough to get you fired. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BfloBillsFan Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I've been saying this about Garoppolo ever since he was drafted..... Overrated!!! I concur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Garoppolo is good enough to win with. The 49ers looked like they were going to beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl with JG as the QB. Yes, he isn't Patrick Mahomes.. but you could do a lot worse. I wouldn't overreact to a pretty close loss to a decent Cards team. That being said, I would take Allen over him any day of the week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Everything broke right for SF last year....won't happen again this year. They're a talented team but won't get back to the SB. Agreed about Jimmy G, he doesn't elevate his team and he's terrible when under pressure. He doesn't have Allen's ability to make things happen. 42 minutes ago, JustWinPlease said: This is how I feel about the Bills. Is Allen the guy? We need to know by the end of this season. (They don't have anywhere near the talent we have in the RB and WR room.) Really by the end of next year. The Bills picking up the fifth year option is a far cry from giving him a five year extension like SF did with JG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I don’t think he’s very good, but Jimmy G was missing his top 2 WRs, and Kittle got banged up...so there’s that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Doc said: He comes up small in the clutch. He got them back their 4th Q lead late in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, prissythecat said: The 49ers have significant talent on both sides of ball as evidenced by Superbowl run last year. However, I believe that they are being held back by a very limited QB in Jimmy Garoppolo who cannot make enough plays to overcome situations where game is close or there is not a huge talent differential. This is certainly a very different situation from few seasons ago when lots of folks were ready to anoint Garoppolo as the next elite QB. Thoughts on where the 49ers should be going with QB ? You can only retain so much talent for so long and windows close quickly. I think it was very telling how the Niners see it too when they were so heavily interested in Brady this offseason. Jimmy G needs to stop focusing on banging porn stars so much and needs to spend time doing the work to take the next step as a QB. Personally, I think the Niners will either bring someone in via FA/Trade next year (not sure whose available) or draft a QB to push Jimmy G. Either way, I expect someone else there challenging for the job next season. He is quite underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 They should be fine with Garoppolo. He's not great but I still think he's pretty good and they can win with him. He missed most of the season 2 years ago then came back last year and led the Niners to the Superbowl. I honestly believe yesterday's game was much more about how good the Cardinals have gotten. They seem to be in the spot the Browns were in last year, only in AZ's case, I think they'll actually live up to the hype. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Bills fans are sold on Allen, but question Jimmy G? Garropolo is a fine QB for Shanahan's system. When Deebo returns, the offense will look totally different. He sets the tone for that WR group. Go back and look at last year's 49ers/Saints game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 if our LBs are healthy, i think we will win that game 17-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He got them back their 4th Q lead late in the game. There was a drive after the Cardinal went up by 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Mango said: All part of the master plan from BB. Lose Brady, bring back JG on the cheap after he flames out in SF. Pats get their next system QB for another 10 years. FML Hmmmm interesting take. JG would do well with BB no doubt about that. One has to wonder how much longer BB is gonna wanna do this week in and week out. I guess if he wins a SB with Cam maybe then he could say his work is done.....maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Even with his questionable plays here and there I take Josh over Jimmy G in a heart beat based on the “it” factor and upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: The 49ers took a 3 point lead 1/3 of the way into the 4th Q. Then the D gives up a TD. The Garoppolo drives down for a TD to regain the lead. The their D gives up another TD on the Cardinal's next drive. Garoppolo drives them again down to the AZ 16. Came up incomplate on 4th and 5. He threw 2 TDs, 259 yards. It wasn't awful. SF's vaunted D couldn't stop Kyler Murray in the 4th Q (despite given TWO leads to protect). 37 minutes ago, Doc said: There was a drive after the Cardinal went up by 4. That was covered above. That was the second lead surrender by the 49ers D in the 4th Q. Ol' Jimmy G couldn't get them the lead back a 3rd time. As a group, the 49ers D is considered to be elite--far better than Garoppollo is as a QB. Yet they have choked away leads in their last 2 games. Edited September 14, 2020 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said: Just saw a recent QB ranking list by some supposed "expert" football writer that had Allen at #20 and Jimmy G in the top 10. Also had Burrow at #26 despite never having played a snap in the NFL and Allen not getting ranked in preseason when he was a rookie. Jimmy G is just going to get that automatic big market respect. He's going to get that NFC Championship #2 offense in the NFL on points last year respect. Now mind you they were middle-of-the-pack as a passing team, but Garrappolo did "enough" to get them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, PaattMaann said: I dunno man, did you see the play yesterday where he twirled around in a circle at least three times in the pocket!!?? Thats very special lol Is there an animated gif for that? Would be good when arguments are going in circle on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, mannc said: I don’t think he’s very good, but Jimmy G was missing his top 2 WRs, and Kittle got banged up...so there’s that. Kittle "makes" Garrappolo as a QB. 50% more YPG than Deebo, nearly 80% catch %, open when he's covered. If Kittle was out, Jimmy G was in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 In terms of talent and output he probably falls somewhere right in the middle of the league. Think, Carson Wentz Ryan Tannehill etc. With the right situation I think he can win a Super Bowl, but he isnt going to carry a team there. I think the best fit for him in back in New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Kittle "makes" Garrappolo as a QB. 50% more YPG than Deebo, nearly 80% catch %, open when he's covered. If Kittle was out, Jimmy G was in trouble. Kittle came out of the game in the second quarter, but played in the second half. Hard to tell if he was hobbled or not. At any rate, the niners were playing with Jets-level WRs in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, prissythecat said: The 49ers have significant talent on both sides of ball as evidenced by Superbowl run last year. However, I believe that they are being held back by a very limited QB in Jimmy Garoppolo who cannot make enough plays to overcome situations where game is close or there is not a huge talent differential. This is certainly a very different situation from few seasons ago when lots of folks were ready to anoint Garoppolo as the next elite QB. Thoughts on where the 49ers should be going with QB ? You can only retain so much talent for so long and windows close quickly. They should give Garoppolo a 10 year 200 million dollar contract before week 2....to make room they should trade us Nick Bosa and Kittle and Bits! Edited September 15, 2020 by Sherlock Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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