Antonio Brown interest: UPDATE AB says he's retiring AGAIN

[Alphadawg7]

Right now on First Take they were talking about both Seattle and Baltimore have shown real interest in AB and that apparently several other teams are also interested.  Max and Stephen A even speculated NE bringing him back with Cam there now (but don’t see how they could really afford him).  But there was no confirmation of NE interest, just they think it makes the most sense.  Dan suggested GB and SF but again just said would be good fits and didn’t say the teams had confirmed interest.  
 

Only teams named with official interest was Sea and Balt and the “other” interested teams were not confirmed or named.  I would think Eagles would be interested too given the WR issues they had last year.
 

So...Where do you think he ends up?  I just hope it’s not NE because with Cam now, this Pats team isn’t going to be an easy out as it is and AB could make them real dangerous if Cam stays healthy and AB keeps himself in check. 
 

Of the confirmed teams, if I’m AB, I would think Seattle would be very attractive compared to Baltimore where he likely wouldn’t see as many targets because of the offense they run.  

Edited July 20, 2020 by Alphadawg7

[C.Biscuit97]

It blows my mind teams still want this idiot.  I hope someone signs him and he blows them up.

 

that said, the nice part of me hopes that maybe he went the Brandon Marshall way and really did transform as a person.  But man, he’s nuts. 
 

also with Baltimore, he has a good relationship with Jackson and his cousin is on the team.  Plus, everyone loves Harbaugh.  But Seattle does seem like the obvious fit.  For some reason, can see him blowing up at Wilson for some stupid reason.

Edited June 30, 2020 by C.Biscuit97

[WhoTom]

I lost track of the AB soap opera. Does he have a pending suspension?

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

The Pats are already paying him this year in dead cap $ he might as well play 

[GunnerBill]

Seattle and Baltimore both make sense because they have great Head Coaches and good cultures. If they both make him an offer then it depends what AB wants. If you want the numbers go to Seattle. If you are serious about chasing a ring go to Baltimore. 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

Seattle and Baltimore both make sense because they have great Head Coaches and good cultures. If they both make him an offer then it depends what AB wants. If you want the numbers go to Seattle. If you are serious about chasing a ring go to Baltimore. 

Good post.  I also think people underestimate how bad the Ravens receivers were last year.  Their best one was a small rookie who missed a lot of time.  

[Kirby Jackson]

12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Seattle and Baltimore both make sense because they have great Head Coaches and good cultures. If they both make him an offer then it depends what AB wants. If you want the numbers go to Seattle. If you are serious about chasing a ring go to Baltimore. 

 

9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Good post.  I also think people underestimate how bad the Ravens receivers were last year.  Their best one was a small rookie who missed a lot of time.  

Don’t underestimate the “eff Pittsburgh” factor when it comes to Baltimore. 

[snamsnoops]

24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Pats are already paying him this year in dead cap $ he might as well play 

I am not sure how this works? If he goes to NE would he already be under contract with them? I know he signed and they cut him, so would he be under a new contract?

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, snamsnoops said:

I am not sure how this works? If he goes to NE would he already be under contract with them? I know he signed and they cut him, so would he be under a new contract?

It was kind of a joke but he’s counting against their cap right now with dead money. They would need to re-sign him. 

[Gugny]

The only good thing about a team signing him is watching the subsequent meltdown.  

 

He's nothing but a walking reality show, now.  He's not a football player.

[Rc2catch]

6 minutes ago, Gugny said:

The only good thing about a team signing him is watching the subsequent meltdown.  

 

He's nothing but a walking reality show, now.  He's not a football player.

Fully agreed. By the time he signs a vet minimum deal (teams will make him do a prove it deal) then serves his suspension and the 24/7 media circus on him again he will probably be cut or in trouble before he even plays a meaningful snap at suspensions end 

[Jauronimo]

52 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Good post.  I also think people underestimate how bad the Ravens receivers were last year.  Their best one was a small rookie who missed a lot of time.  

Was it the WRs or the QB?  For all the Lamar praise, I believe he targeted the sidelines less often than any QB in the league.  His passing production was all in the middle of the field to their three TEs.  

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Was it the WRs or the QB?  For all the Lamar praise, I believe he targeted the sidelines less often than any QB in the league.  His passing production was all in the middle of the field to their three TEs.  

 

Baltimore's top 3 WRs gained a total of 1194 receiving yards last year.   That's 398/each.

 

Two of them played all 16 games.  The other played 14.

 

 

Edited June 30, 2020 by Gugny

[H2o]

I think he ends up at home, eating a bag of his favorite gummy snacks, working on more crappy music. 

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

Seattle and Baltimore both make sense because they have great Head Coaches and good cultures. If they both make him an offer then it depends what AB wants. If you want the numbers go to Seattle. If you are serious about chasing a ring go to Baltimore. 

 

Seattle is no joke either, and with AB they would be a serious contender in the NFC, and honestly, I think he would have a slightly better shot at a SB appearance in Seattle than Baltimore where they still have to get by KC who is still probably the top team heading into the season.  Also, he could make a bigger impact. 

 

But, either make sense obviously.  And like someone else added, facing Pitt twice would add to the appeal.  From a football perspective, I just think Seattle makes a lot more sense because he is going to want to put up stats so he can get a real contract in 2022, and Seattle gives him a much better shot at that.  Lamar was not great throwing to his WR's last year and most his passing production was to TE and RB combinations.  All that speed and size at WR in Seattle with a top 3 QB in Seattle and dangerous run game would be a sick offense.  

 

Im hoping its an NFC team (Seattle, SF, GB, etc) as I dont want to face him in the AFC on someone we already will have our hands full with.  AB is freaking nuts...out of his mind...and just a total dips**t...BUT he is still an elite player on the field, and for all his off field issues the past 18 months, throughout his career when he was on the field he was all business.  And now he has lost football for a while, I think its reasonable to think hes going to come back with a chip on his shoulder to earn a real deal (and deal he likely gets this year would be a 1 year prove it) as he wants to get paid again at some point. 

 

So, the idea of him winding up back in NE would suck, or Baltimore...two teams we are going to have to go through to get to where we want to go.  Doesnt mean we cant if he winds up there, but I would rather not see them get potentially better by adding a potentially elite player to their weak spot on offense, WR.  

Edited June 30, 2020 by Alphadawg7

[QB Bills]

Luckily our GM is too smart to attempt to bring him into the fold.

[mushypeaches]

Is there any more relevant case of "caveat emptor"?

 

 

[Jauronimo]

14 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Baltimore's top 3 WRs gained a total of 1194 receiving yards last year.   That's 398/each.

 

Two of them played all 16 games.  The other played 14.

 

 

And Baltimore's TEs combined for 1,700 yards.  Is the problem really Baltimore's WRs?  Are Mark Andrews, Nick Boyle, Hayden Hurst, and Seth Roberts all amazing or does Lamar have issues throwing the ball on outside the hashmarks?

[KGun12TD]

It's amazing that this POS will get another shot...UGH!!!

[MJS]

Doesn't he have legal issues? Is there a chance he'd be placed on the commissioner's exempt list if he is signed by a team?

[MJS]

3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

And Baltimore's TEs combined for 1,700 yards.  Is the problem really Baltimore's WRs?  Are Mark Andrews, Nick Boyle, Hayden Hurst, and Seth Roberts all amazing or does Lamar have issues throwing the ball on outside the hashmarks?

Probably both are true.

[PetermansRedemption]

Isn’t there about a 100% chance this fool gets suspended as soon as he signs? He’s had multiple legal issues including pleading guilty recently. 

[LeviF]

Even money says that if he goes to Seattle he sleeps with Wilson's wife

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

40 minutes ago, H2o said:

I think he ends up at home, eating a bag of his favorite gummy snacks, working on more crappy music. 

How's he coming with that Cypress Hill cover album?

 

23 minutes ago, mushypeaches said:

Is there any more relevant case of "caveat emptor"?

 

 

Yes, but it will result in this thread getting flung into PPP.  ?

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

How's he coming with that Cypress Hill cover album?

 

He covered "Insane in the Brain" awhile ago...

[GoBills808]

29 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

And Baltimore's TEs combined for 1,700 yards.  Is the problem really Baltimore's WRs?  Are Mark Andrews, Nick Boyle, Hayden Hurst, and Seth Roberts all amazing or does Lamar have issues throwing the ball on outside the hashmarks?

Both tbh

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Doesn't he have legal issues? Is there a chance he'd be placed on the commissioner's exempt list if he is signed by a team?

 

He has a lot of issues. I think the NFL should work with him to make sure he is in a good place mentally and that his legal issues are in order. Yes they should still suspend him for any legal issues but to have such a prominent NFL player who clearly has good football left in him to not be on the field and being such an off the field issue makes the NFL look bad.

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

Isn’t there about a 100% chance this fool gets suspended as soon as he signs? He’s had multiple legal issues including pleading guilty recently. 

As long as he promises not to kneel it'll be a short suspension.  Russell Wilson must be salivating at the thought of having AB and Metcalf.

[Don Otreply]

This is yet another example of why the NFL spends hundreds of millions of dollars annually on their public image. Greed, it’s what’s for dinner...

[MJS]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

 

He has a lot of issues. I think the NFL should work with him to make sure he is in a good place mentally and that his legal issues are in order. Yes they should still suspend him for any legal issues but to have such a prominent NFL player who clearly has good football left in him to not be on the field and being such an off the field issue makes the NFL look bad.

It makes the NFL look bad if they let him play, given all his off the field issues.

 

Doesn't look bad to me one bit to have him unsigned by a team. Why would that look bad? He's clearly unstable.

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

 

He has a lot of issues. I think the NFL should work with him to make sure he is in a good place mentally and that his legal issues are in order. Yes they should still suspend him for any legal issues but to have such a prominent NFL player who clearly has good football left in him to not be on the field and being such an off the field issue makes the NFL look bad.

The only one who looks bad is him. It’s pretty clear why he’s not playing. 

[Bferra13]

4 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

Fully agreed. By the time he signs a vet minimum deal (teams will make him do a prove it deal) then serves his suspension and the 24/7 media circus on him again he will probably be cut or in trouble before he even plays a meaningful snap at suspensions end 

 

Yay, then we can hear Richard Sherman's opinion on how it's garbage AB is getting paid the vet minimum.

[BmarvB]

Nope. He burned his bridges.

[JoPoy88]

4 hours ago, MJS said:

Probably both are true.

Both are true but from what I saw of Lamar last year, those outside-the-numbers throws are UGLY. personally I don’t think there’s a problem with hollywood brown or whoever else they got lining up outside. And I don’t think AB would help much either. The problem is Lamar and his limitations. Good thing for Baltimore, he’s so great at everything else it doesn’t matter much (except to his wideout’s numbers.) 

24 minutes ago, BmarvB said:

Nope. He burned his bridges.

please. Baltimore would sign him. He can play with his cousin. Maybe the younger one can keep him in line.

[wppete]

I think many NFL Fans have lost interest in the NFL and Antonio Brown.

[JoPoy88]

3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

He has a lot of issues. I think the NFL should work with him to make sure he is in a good place mentally and that his legal issues are in order. Yes they should still suspend him for any legal issues but to have such a prominent NFL player who clearly has good football left in him to not be on the field and being such an off the field issue makes the NFL look bad.

oh yes. Let’s have the league push for this guy’s return after a extremely public mental break and subsequent legal issues. “He’s got good football left” so let’s have Rog urge some team to sign him and possibly blow up their locker room. That sounds, I can’t even say how that sounds without getting banned.

[Mr. WEO]

5 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Was it the WRs or the QB?  For all the Lamar praise, I believe he targeted the sidelines less often than any QB in the league.  His passing production was all in the middle of the field to their three TEs.  

 

5 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Baltimore's top 3 WRs gained a total of 1194 receiving yards last year.   That's 398/each.

 

Two of them played all 16 games.  The other played 14.

 

 

 

They only dialed up 440 passing plays (league fewest).  Not sure what anyone is expecting in receiver yards with that kind of offense.  They had the same passing yards per game as the Bills, despite 73 fewer attempts.

 

And 37 passing TDs.....

Edited June 30, 2020 by Mr. WEO

[billsfan89]

19 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

oh yes. Let’s have the league push for this guy’s return after a extremely public mental break and subsequent legal issues. “He’s got good football left” so let’s have Rog urge some team to sign him and possibly blow up their locker room. That sounds, I can’t even say how that sounds without getting banned.

 

I never said that the league should push for his return but rather work with him to get his off the field issues sorted out before a possible return. He is a liability to himself and the league being out there acting erratic. The league can't make him do anything obviously but it would be good for them and help protect them from looking like they just let a star player descend into madness and ruin his career and life. 

 

He clearly needs help and he isn't getting it. Maybe the NFL should look out for a star player to help send a message that they actually care about player health and safety?

[JoPoy88]

2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I never said that the league should push for his return but rather work with him to get his off the field issues sorted out before a possible return. He is a liability to himself and the league being out there acting erratic. The league can't make him do anything obviously but it would be good for them and help protect them from looking like they just let a star player descend into madness and ruin his career and life. 

 

He clearly needs help and he isn't getting it. Maybe the NFL should look out for a star player to help send a message that they actually care about player health and safety?

he’s rich enough to get his own therapy. He’s not employed by any NFL team. Given his tenure in the league, he probably still has league-provided health care. But they can’t compel him to seek treatment (there’s laws against that), so I don’t know what “look out” for him really means. You tell me.

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

They only dialed up 440 passing plays (league fewest).  Not sure what anyone is expecting in receiver yards with that kind of offense.  They had the same passing yards per game as the Bills, despite 73 fewer attempts.

 

And 37 passing TDs.....

 

And both one and done.