YoloinOhio Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Bridgewater would have been a great fit in NE. It’s weird that people love TB but I just don’t think he’s really that good. He’s like a slightly worse Chad Pennington with a tan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s weird that people love TB but I just don’t think he’s really that good. He’s like a slightly worse Chad Pennington with a tan. He resurrected his career filling in for Brees and going 5-0 during that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Greg S said: He resurrected his career filling in for Brees and going 5-0 during that time. Panthers dumped the face of the franchise for him, he must be doing something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Greg S said: He resurrected his career filling in for Brees and going 5-0 during that time. He played fairly well but the Saints are a great situation. I believe the stat is he averaged the least air yards per pass. If I was playing Carolina, you just sit on the short stuff and McCaffery and make him beat you over the top. I don’t think he can. that said, salute to him for coming back from his injury and getting paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rico said: Panthers dumped the face of the franchise for him, he must be doing something right. New ownership played into that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 9:24 AM, Back2Buff said: There have been plenty of years were Cam has been healthy and not great. He is just an average QB with injury issues. I said he has been above-average to great depending on the season. He's won an MVP. He averages 30 TDs and 16 turnovers per year, which for a running QB and including fumbles isn't too terrible. He averages 600 yards rushing per year, to go along with 3600 yards passing. If healthy he has more physical talent than most. The main factor will be if he is healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 That ex Colts kicker guys YouTube show talks about Cam being the back up. Could you just see it now, heads exploding all over pundit land, ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) On 6/29/2020 at 2:12 AM, transplantbillsfan said: Peterman is all time bad from game 1. Least talented QB to maybe get any real NFL look. EJ showed promise at points. He actually played decent at points. Big difference. Peterman was a (5th )round pick NOT(1st) and didn’t set this franchise back for 5 years When it comes to Peterman we ALL knew he’s not the answer and didn’t wait for 3 years hoping that light switch would come on THAT’S the BIG difference Edited July 2, 2020 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Man, do I ever hate the New England Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 3:07 PM, YoloinOhio said: How intact is their team from last year as far as coaches and players. I know they lost some, notably the ST coordinator and OL coach plus van noy, Jamie Collins, Elandon Roberts and Danny Shelton. I think they added in the WR dept with Harry being back from injury, and the D still looks tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Putin said: Peterman was a (5th )round pick NOT(1st) and didn’t set this franchise back for 5 years When it comes to Peterman we ALL knew he’s not the answer and didn’t wait for 3 years hoping that light switch would come on THAT’S the BIG difference We all knew it from game 1? We sure as heck should have considering his historically atrocious start in the NFL. Yet, he was not only to start another game that season, but was allowed to be a part of a legitimate QB competition THAT HE "WON" and start again in the ensuing swason. and posters here thought he'd be good... make no mistake about that... maybe you were one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Putin said: Peterman didn’t prevent us from drafting another QB , again EJ was a first round pick that set this franchise back for years ..., Not only that but the year after we used two first round picks for a WR because the FO went all in on EJ , THATS THE DIFFERENCE... How exactly did EJ set the Franchise back for years? We acquired draft picks for him by trading back. We didn't lose draft picks. Blame the GM and coaching staff for failing to pull the trigger quickly the way Arizona did on Josh Rosen or the Panthers did on Jimmy Clausen or the Jaguars did on Jimmy Clausen or the Broncos did on Paxton Lynch. Those organizations pulled the trigger quick. Not EJ's fault OBD didn't. By this same argument Trent Edwards, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tyrod Taylor all also set this franchise back for years. None of them were drafted in the 1st round. Peterman was needlessly given incredibly valuable snaps in the offseason of Allen's rookie year. Never should have happened. I would argue Peterman hindered Allen's growth with that. You seem desperate to defend Peterman for some strange reason. Edited July 2, 2020 by transplantbillsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: How exactly did EJ set the Franchise back for years? We acquired draft picks for him by trading back. We didn't lose draft picks. Blame the GM and coaching staff for failing to pull the trigger quickly the way Arizona did on Josh Rosen or the Panthers did on Jimmy Clausen or the Jaguars did on Jimmy Clausen or the Broncos did on Paxton Lynch. Those organizations pulled the trigger quick. Not EJ's fault OBD didn't. By this same argument Trent Edwards, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tyrod Taylor all also set this franchise back for years. None of them were drafted in the 1st round. Peterman was needlessly given incredibly valuable snaps in the offseason of Allen's rookie year. Never should have happened. I would argue Peterman hindered Allen's growth with that. You seem desperate to defend Peterman for some strange reason. The plan for Allen was to sit and learn his rookie year , and maybe start few games towards the end of the season , so to say that Peterman took valuable snaps from Allen is just not true , the truth is it should have been a veteran QB who should have been taken those snaps someone that Allen could learn from and not Peterman , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 This deal has to make Cam the cheapest presumptive starting QB in the league by far, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 2:23 PM, Muppy said: THIS is the guy Bills fans are all up in arms over the Pats signing?? LOL **clicking his heels** There's no place like New England, There's no place like New England"The real reason behind Cam Newton’s foot injury... Caption: Despite a valiant effort, the Pats new QB was unable to out-feminine his predecessor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 11 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: This deal has to make Cam the cheapest presumptive starting QB in the league by far, right? Looks like he's going to have to earn the spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Rico said: Looks like he's going to have to earn the spot. I mean maybe that’s why I said “presumptive” but if he really rolls in there and doesn’t win the job from Stidham then he doesn’t even deserve the contract he got, horrible that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 9 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: I mean maybe that’s why I said “presumptive” but if he really rolls in there and doesn’t win the job from Stidham then he doesn’t even deserve the contract he got, horrible that it is. I’m guessing it’s due to the situation with his foot and shoulder that he got such a small gtd $. It’s crazy how little they gave him but then again they don’t have much to spend. He can earn a big contract next year though if he is healthy and stays healthy. And that’s why he took it, it’s the best situation for him for NEXT year’s deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Patriots about to figure out there ain’t much left of cam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BornAgainBillsFan Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 10:03 AM, YoloinOhio said: Excuse my ignorance, but how does that work, re the Pats salary cap? Do the incentives get counted against next year's cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I think this is a sneaky good move by the Pats. That said the media just can't help itself these days.... https://sports.yahoo.com/welcome-to-boston-cam-newton-he-can-already-hear-the-dog-whistles-and-trite-criticism-204248832.html Whether his career lasts one more game, one more season or a dozen more years, I hope Cam Newton never stops doing his “Superman” routine after big plays. Because among all of his talents, Newton’s one true super power is getting people to tell on themselves. It’s happening already in Boston. News of Newton’s contract agreement with the New England Patriots broke on Sunday night, and by Tuesday afternoon, without Newton having touched down in Massachusetts yet — he was in Los Angeles working with one of his new teammates, Mohamed Sanu — local sports radio hosts were already pulling out the tired, lacking-in-reality, dog-whistle tropes many NFL media types have used with Newton throughout his career. In the span of 2 minutes and 20 seconds, 98.5 The Sports Hub hosts Michael Felger and Tony Massarotti said Newton won’t go along with the Patriots’ “culture,” and Newton’s “dabbing” and “showboating” will be a problem. They intimated that a 31-year-old man won’t be able to “contain” himself on the field, took a shot at Newton’s wardrobe, said coach Bill Belichick won’t “allow” Newton’s celebrations, and for good measure brought up the brief and unsuccessful New England tenure of Chad Ochocinco and confused Brandin Cooks and Phillip Dorsett II. Welcome to Boston, Cam.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: I think this is a sneaky good move by the Pats. That said the media just can't help itself these days.... https://sports.yahoo.com/welcome-to-boston-cam-newton-he-can-already-hear-the-dog-whistles-and-trite-criticism-204248832.html Whether his career lasts one more game, one more season or a dozen more years, I hope Cam Newton never stops doing his “Superman” routine after big plays. Because among all of his talents, Newton’s one true super power is getting people to tell on themselves. It’s happening already in Boston. News of Newton’s contract agreement with the New England Patriots broke on Sunday night, and by Tuesday afternoon, without Newton having touched down in Massachusetts yet — he was in Los Angeles working with one of his new teammates, Mohamed Sanu — local sports radio hosts were already pulling out the tired, lacking-in-reality, dog-whistle tropes many NFL media types have used with Newton throughout his career. In the span of 2 minutes and 20 seconds, 98.5 The Sports Hub hosts Michael Felger and Tony Massarotti said Newton won’t go along with the Patriots’ “culture,” and Newton’s “dabbing” and “showboating” will be a problem. They intimated that a 31-year-old man won’t be able to “contain” himself on the field, took a shot at Newton’s wardrobe, said coach Bill Belichick won’t “allow” Newton’s celebrations, and for good measure brought up the brief and unsuccessful New England tenure of Chad Ochocinco and confused Brandin Cooks and Phillip Dorsett II. Welcome to Boston, Cam.... Music to my ears!! Let the Patriots Circus begin! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 10:07 AM, JoPoy88 said: This deal has to make Cam the cheapest presumptive starting QB in the league by far, right? I don’t know how he’s going to maintain his wardrobe for this minimum wage deal. Those fedoras and scarves do NOT come cheap! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: Excuse my ignorance, but how does that work, re the Pats salary cap? Do the incentives get counted against next year's cap? depends if they are LTBE (likely to be earned) or not. Likely count this year but free up rollover if unearned. NLTBE do not count this year but if earned count next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Bill Belichick was not about to go into this year rolling over. Figured if nothing else, he would have his defense ready to play lights out. I would think that Bill would love nothing more than proving he (not Brady) is the secret sauce for the Pats. Winning without Tom would help to do just that. Not sure how much Cam has left in the tank, but if anyone knows his blind/weak spots it would be McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) Had a dream the Bills were playing the Pat's last night... Only remember one play... Cam threw a short pass over the middle and it was tipped.... our linebacker almost picked it and it bounced into another crossing receiver who made a net 2 yard gain on the play. Things are looking up. Edited July 4, 2020 by akcash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Augie said: I don’t know how he’s going to maintain his wardrobe for this minimum wage deal. Those fedoras and scarves do NOT come cheap! St. Vincent de Paul thrift store. A step up in chic and style from the Sally Ann and Goodwill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CEN-CAL17 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 9:13 AM, Billl said: Where did this idiotic narrative about Cam not being able to stay healthy come from? He got injured last season. Prior to that, he missed 5 starts in his entire 8 year career. Josh missed that many his rookie season and was knocked out of another last year. Anyone who thinks NE didn't improve their chances of winning the division with this move is delusional. He’s not great, but he’s absolutely proven himself to be a legit starting QB in the league, and no other QB in the division can say that. Say what you want... his last couple years I didn’t see the same Cam everyone is preaching about being MVP. I saw a QB struggling in the pocket, I saw a QB who showed inability to make people miss, I saw a QB holding onto the ball to long, I saw a QB with accuracy problems, I saw a QB short arming most his passes due to injury, I saw a QB who deep ball was crap.... Cam hasn’t played solid football for nearly 3 straight seasons. But now cause he’s “100%” he’s gonna step right in a lead that team to a division title... I see things a little different that’s it. I think he will be rusty, I think he will struggle with timing, New England’s OL is weak, Erhardt Perkins offense is tough and takes a smart QB, colder weather I think will slow him down in the winter, I don’t think he will win over the locker room like Brady, I don’t think those coaches can change him, I see him losing and being, well Cam. Im not saying they aren’t better with Cam, I’m just not buying into all the Hype and I think Stidham will push him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 10:51 PM, WideNine said: Bill Belichick was not about to go into this year rolling over. Figured if nothing else, he would have his defense ready to play lights out. I would think that Bill would love nothing more than proving he (not Brady) is the secret sauce for the Pats. Winning without Tom would help to do just that. Not sure how much Cam has left in the tank, but if anyone knows his blind/weak spots it would be McDermott. Maybe it’s PTSD, but it feels like BB has wet dreams of signing a guy like Cam off the streets, then having him beat up on his old DC in a division rivalry. Then a stoic post game presser saying something like “All the credit to Coach McDermott. They do a great job and show up prepared. We knew how ready they would be for what Cam could do, And we know what a quality unit he has there in Buffalo. We knew we had to be ready for today. Our guys put in the work today. Of course you’d like some plays back, but we made enough of them today. On to Baltimore” All after CN drops 350, 2PTD, 82 yards on the ground and 1 RTD. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 12:10 AM, transplantbillsfan said: Blame the GM and coaching staff for failing to pull the trigger quickly the way Arizona did on Josh Rosen or the Panthers did on Jimmy Clausen or the Jaguars did on Jimmy Clausen or the Broncos did on Paxton Lynch. Those organizations pulled the trigger quick. Not EJ's fault OBD didn't. I would argue the Bills DID pull trigger quickly. He was benched after 15 starts with 16 TDs, 12 ints, and 3 game winning drives. The Bills were 2-2 at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: I would argue the Bills DID pull trigger quickly. He was benched after 15 starts with 16 TDs, 12 ints, and 3 game winning drives. The Bills were 2-2 at the time. I wish the Bills would have pulled the trigger quicker we wouldn’t have to replace a hospitality tent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 11 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I would argue the Bills DID pull trigger quickly. He was benched after 15 starts with 16 TDs, 12 ints, and 3 game winning drives. The Bills were 2-2 at the time. Hindsight being 20/20, this was still the right call. Not his fault he was drafted too high with commensurate expectations, but proof is in the pudding that he never established himself anywhere post-Buffalo before retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Cam Newton: "I'm tired if being humble." Hmm. Never seemed like the humble type to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, MJS said: Cam Newton: "I'm tired if being humble." Hmm. Never seemed like the humble type to me. That’s music to BB ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, MJS said: Cam Newton: "I'm tired if being humble." Hmm. Never seemed like the humble type to me. you sure he didn't mean I’m tired of chasing fumbles? Edited July 8, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 16 hours ago, MJS said: Cam Newton: "I'm tired if being humble." Hmm. Never seemed like the humble type to me. I think he’s been pretty quiet the last few years. He definitely got completely boned by the Panthers when they released him after FA started. But he was pretty quiet about it. that said, if I was his agent, I’d just say stay silent, put the work in, and make your play do the talking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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