reddogblitz Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Jobot said: No one with half a brain just blindly clicks on links anymore... Put an ounce of effort into your next post, please. True. The Peter Pan links over the years cured me of that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I don't at all, as I just said. He believes in this stuff because he sees himself as "proof of its efficacy". You just concluded he believes it because he's a doofus. How did you conclude he's wrong? Meh. No sense of humor as usual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I'm going to skip ahead after reading the first page of posts and just say this: you Tom Brady apologists, especially in light of this newest malfeasance, are a special breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 If only fans could get into the games this year and then throw these vitamins at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: And doesn’t everyone who takes any supplement base their continued use of them on their belief that is helpful (“working for them”)? Are all people who take supplements therefore doofuses? It's one thing to say, "It works for me." It's something else to extrapolate that to the general population and say, "It'll work for you too" - especially if the guy it works for is a professional athlete who's in top physical condition. There are more than 1500 guys in the NFL, most of whom are in top physical condition but don't take his supplement. To not consider that, and just assume that it's the supplement, is foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Victory Formation said: How long til he gets sued? why would he get sued for doing exactly what countless other companies do? (Legally) Edited May 20, 2020 by JoPoy88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 He is nothing compared to the real crooks at pharmaceutical companies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, WhoTom said: It's one thing to say, "It works for me." It's something else to extrapolate that to the general population and say, "It'll work for you too" - especially if the guy it works for is a professional athlete who's in top physical condition. There are more than 1500 guys in the NFL, most of whom are in top physical condition but don't take his supplement. To not consider that, and just assume that it's the supplement, is foolish. No one here or brady himself ever said this. Again the irrational hate is a killer and frankly in makes you look bad. He’s not doing anything novel, or different than many other past and present athletes. If you can show me a quote from Brady saying that this supplement alone prolonged his life and career then produce it. and extrapolation is how the whole social media economy is driven now - kylie wears this makeup and it looks good on her so my wife must buy this makeup and she will look like kylie...and so on and so forth. Come on man. this is killing me to quasi-defend brady in this instance but some of you are so lost, so irredeemable homers it’s kinda sickening. He’s gone now, let it go. Edited May 20, 2020 by JoPoy88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 9 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: If all proceeds go to charity ... I have no concerns. 1st you call it a bogus product, then you say it's ok to screw people if $ goes to charity!?!? Really?! Seems like your really hurting from the 20 years he dominated the Bills. Let it go. I did, 10 years ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 9 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Because GNC hasnt kicked our asses and made us look foolish for the last 20 years straight. My thoughts, exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, Dopey said: 1st you call it a bogus product, then you say it's ok to screw people if $ goes to charity!?!? Really?! Seems like your really hurting from the 20 years he dominated the Bills. Let it go. I did, 10 years ago. it’s like grown men (and women, maybe) putting out something akin to a junior high vendetta for all to see...and they’re proud of it...yikes. and thank you for acknowledging it - he and BB beat us down for 20 years. Let’s stop blindfolding each other to that fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: If only fans could get into the games this year and then throw these vitamins at him. Bonus if they're shaped like a sex toy Edited May 20, 2020 by stevewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 14 hours ago, MJS said: Because he is charging too much for what is essentially Vitamin C and he is claiming it will help you fight off viruses (like COVID-19). It's snake oil. It's right up the alley of all his other TB12 products that have no scientific backing and plenty of criticisms from healthcare professionals and nutritionists. It's not essentially Vitamin C. It's got a bunch of different supplements. No, that stuff hasn't been proven in scientific studies. But doing so would be very difficult, if not impossible. How are you going to eliminate other variables? Particularly as how can you figure out whether or not an immune system has become stronger? Supplements may well work. Some of them if not all of them. It's certainly also possible that none of them have the slightest effect. But because it may be true doesn't mean it can just be assumed to be so. This is the quote I like on the subject, " 'There is no alternative medicine,' the editors of the Journal of the American Medical Association wrote last year. 'There is only scientifically proven, evidence-based medicine supported by solid data or unproven medicine, for which scientific evidence is lacking.' " Not all alternative medicine is snake oil. Certainly some of it is. But it wasn't long ago that conventional medicine was sure that acupuncture, fish oil, ginseng and meditation had no benefits. Turns out not to be true, all of them have some now-proven benefits, though it's equally true that some claim they all have benefits beyond what's been proven, and those people could easily be wrong. Or right. I hate Brady, but not enough to assume that he's willing to lie to make himself a few thousand sales that might bring in a $20 profit each. He most likely believes in the stuff. And some of it might even be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Brady told Robert Kraft they can cure STIs so Bob bought 5 cases. He always takes three with a glass of water following a massage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Greg S said: https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2020/05/18/as-coronavirus-cases-climb-in-florida-tom-brady-is-selling-45-immunity-vitamins and your problem with this is what again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 17 hours ago, The Wiz said: I'm starting to think he was cloned and his clone turned out not too bright and killed the real Tom Brady. First he walks in to the wrong house now this i think your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 16 hours ago, eball said: I have to think that the idiot must actually believe it. I mean, why would Tom Freaking Brady be pimping health supplements? He's already richer than God and certainly doesn't need the money or publicity. The doofus just believes that this crap works. It's not like we don't have other figures in high places believing in magic elixirs with no proof of efficacy. 9 hours ago, eball said: Meh. No sense of humor as usual. my bad. Re-reading that I know see it's pure comedy gold. You killed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Gugny said: I honestly don't see what the big deal is. Seriously. He isn’t selling something that will hurt someone. IF someone wants to buy this product go ahead. We all buy stuff we don’t need or doesn’t benefit us. Look around where you are sitting right now, I guarantee you can find a few. Brady is still a cheater. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 17 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: A million and one health and wellness companies, many of them owned and/or sponsored by pro athletes, fitness trainers, etc., have been doing the exact same thing for many, many years. WTF indeed. As in, “WTF is the big deal?” Because they're not trying to take advantage of a pandemic. I guess poor Tom just can't make it on he and his wife's salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 7 hours ago, WhoTom said: It's one thing to say, "It works for me." It's something else to extrapolate that to the general population and say, "It'll work for you too" - especially if the guy it works for is a professional athlete who's in top physical condition. There are more than 1500 guys in the NFL, most of whom are in top physical condition but don't take his supplement. To not consider that, and just assume that it's the supplement, is foolish. Frank Thomas (occasionally with Doug Flutie!) is on TV commercials nearly every night saying exactly that about some testosterone "booster" he's touting is 'the #1 seller at GNC". That's exactly how these non pharmaceutical supplements get sold---famous people saying "it works for me". It's called "advertising". Did you really not realize until you clicked the OP's link? That's an ad campaign that costs many millions to the producer of that substance. So they are selling a ton of it. Also, it will seems I will surprise you by informing you he's not that he's not marketing to young top pro (NFL) athletes in there 20's and 30's. Just now, first_and_ten said: Because they're not trying to take advantage of a pandemic. I guess poor Tom just can't make it on he and his wife's salary That's inference made by the guy who wrote the "article". The product makes no such claims. Also, Florida doesn't seem very concerned about the pandemic at this point anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 18 hours ago, Gugny said: It actually doesn't mention COVID-19 anywhere in the promotion, other than the delayed shipping. Why isn't anyone busting GNC's balls for selling snake oil supplements? GNC hasn’t won a Super Bowl..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 19 hours ago, Warcodered said: His business is still located in Massachusetts, that is kinda dumb. Florida has way lower taxes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 19 hours ago, The Wiz said: I'm starting to think he was cloned and his clone turned out not too bright and killed the real Tom Brady. I have to check all the figures but The Wiz may have won the internet yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dopey said: 1st you call it a bogus product, then you say it's ok to screw people if $ goes to charity!?!? Really?! Seems like your really hurting from the 20 years he dominated the Bills. Let it go. I did, 10 years ago. It is a bogus product for $45 a bottle. My intended meaning was "I would be less concerned about the issue" if it was for Charity. He wants to profiting off of people who are just to dumb to know better. It is not a Bills Fan thing Maybe it's just unfortunate timing. Maybe it's just social media running away with a narrative. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/tom-brady-getting-twitter-backlash-after-releasing-immunity-supplement/ar-BB14kv13 Tom Brady promotes TB12 immunity supplements on social media ... Edited May 20, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo in Pa Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 19 hours ago, WhoTom said: I have the same issue with Gwyneth Paltrow and her snake oil. Gwyneth's head in a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 21 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: A million and one health and wellness companies, many of them owned and/or sponsored by pro athletes, fitness trainers, etc., have been doing the exact same thing for many, many years. WTF indeed. As in, “WTF is the big deal?” It's modern day snake oil. That makes it a bit of a big deal. I guess in today's climate, deceit has become a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: It's modern day snake oil. That makes it a bit of a big deal. I guess in today's climate, deceit has become a good thing? meh. Call me when brady becomes a televangelist. Maybe then I’ll rustle up some fake outrage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, first_and_ten said: Because they're not trying to take advantage of a pandemic. I guess poor Tom just can't make it on he and his wife's salary neither is he. An immune booster falls well in line with the rest of the crap he sells, which all falls well in line with general health, wellness and fitness. Again, all sour grapes. Get over it. The Bills had 20 years to beat him. They couldn’t. Stop obsessing. It’s creepy. Edited May 20, 2020 by JoPoy88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: It is a bogus product for $45 a bottle. My intended meaning was "I would be less concerned about the issue" if it was for Charity. He wants to profiting off of people who are just to dumb to know better. It is not a Bills Fan thing Maybe it's just unfortunate timing. Maybe it's just social media running away with a narrative. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/tom-brady-getting-twitter-backlash-after-releasing-immunity-supplement/ar-BB14kv13 Tom Brady promotes TB12 immunity supplements on social media ... Have you ever heard of QVC? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 12:16 PM, MJS said: Because he is charging too much for what is essentially Vitamin C and he is claiming it will help you fight off viruses (like COVID-19). It's snake oil. It's right up the alley of all his other TB12 products that have no scientific backing and plenty of criticisms from healthcare professionals and nutritionists. But you have to understand that people have different moral and ethical standards. They range from hyperindividualistic and hypercapitalistic to hypercollective and hypersocialistic with everything in between. We can see this spectrum right here in this thread. The main point is don't argue. It's pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Tom Brady could find a cure for cancer and Bills fans would still find some way to hate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: Tom Brady could find a cure for cancer and Bills fans would still find some way to hate it Tom Brady couldn't cure cancer because that would require FDA approval and some semblance of proof that his latest miracle pill actually does something. What Tom Brady can do is use his celebrity and some opportunism to market multi-vitamins while insinuating they will protect you from Covid-19 or take advantage of the concussion issue in football to sell you coconut water mixed with tylenol. And he can take all the criticism that comes with, at best, suspect business practices and, at worst, dangerous misrepresentations of the medicinal properties of his bull####. Is the Federal Trade Commission just a bunch of haters and Bills fans? https://www.scribd.com/document/284209504/FTC-NeuroSafe-Letter-to-Alejandro-Guerrero https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-tom-bradys-guru-lied-that-he-was-an-md-was-investigated-by-feds/ Edited May 20, 2020 by Jauronimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Tom Brady couldn't cure cancer because that would require FDA approval and some semblance of proof that his latest miracle pill actually does something. What Tom Brady can do is use his celebrity and some opportunism to market multi-vitamins while insinuating they will protect you from Covid-19 or take advantage of the concussion issue in football to sell you coconut water mixed with tylenol. And he can take all the criticism that comes with, at best, suspect business practices and, at worst, dangerous misrepresentations of the medicinal properties of his bull####. Is the Federal Trade Commission just a bunch of haters and Bills fans? https://www.scribd.com/document/284209504/FTC-NeuroSafe-Letter-to-Alejandro-Guerrero https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-tom-bradys-guru-lied-that-he-was-an-md-was-investigated-by-feds/ Get over it FTC! All the cease and desist letters in the world won't make up for the fact that Tom Brady's football team used to beat the Buffalo Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexreimer/2020/05/20/tom-bradys-immunity-vitamins-are-unethical-and-misleading-medical-experts-say/amp/ Tom Brady announced this week that he’s selling a new vitamin supplement that enhances the immune system. But medical experts are skeptical of the product’s benefit and concerned Brady may be taking advantage of the coronavirus pandemic to sell his latest TB12 product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 10 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: neither is he. An immune booster falls well in line with the rest of the crap he sells, which all falls well in line with general health, wellness and fitness. Again, all sour grapes. Get over it. The Bills had 20 years to beat him. They couldn’t. Stop obsessing. It’s creepy. Sorry I busted on your hero.We wouldn't want to "deflate" your view of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 1:09 PM, Warcodered said: Glad to know the Rice Hulls are organic --- wouldn't want the Little People to spend their hard earned $45 on ordinary Rice Hulls. Would love to have an analytical lab run an arsenic level on 'em. 7 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said: Tom Brady could find a cure for cancer and Bills fans would still find some way to hate it Let me know when Tom Brady finds an actual cure for cancer (not just some overpriced bottle that says "not proven to do anything" in the fine print) and we can do the experiment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 11 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: neither is he. An immune booster falls well in line with the rest of the crap he sells, which all falls well in line with general health, wellness and fitness. Again, all sour grapes. Get over it. The Bills had 20 years to beat him. They couldn’t. Stop obsessing. It’s creepy. Riiiiiiiiiiight. We're in the middle of a pandemic, people are nervous as states are reopening and ready or not, they must go back to work, and the guy just COINCIDENTALLY choses this time to market a $45 tub of a product labeled "PROTECT" that is said to "support a healthy immune response". I'm sure that's just a coincy-dink. I don't need to obsess in order to note that it appears unethical and misleading to me - regardless of who beat whom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 He's like the Gwyneth Paltrow of the NFL. TB12 products are the equivalent of "Goop" products. I mean, if I was as poor as him, I'd resort to scamming people too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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