Lurker Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) ... Edited April 25, 2020 by Lurker 31 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Let him be GM for the Sabres too! 2 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I doubt pegula will let him walk like Ralph allowed Polian to walk. Ralph thought Buffalo could recruit on their winning ways while Pegula knows he needs a good GM to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Let him be GM for the Sabres too! Be careful, you're on thin ice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EasternOHBillsFan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Be careful, you're on thin ice. So that's where Tim Murray ended up... under the ice! BA DOOMP BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I doubt pegula will let him walk like Ralph allowed Polian to walk. Ralph thought Buffalo could recruit on their winning ways while Pegula knows he needs a good GM to get it done. This is 100% true. Honestly, Beane and McDermott have the been the only the good hires the Pegula’s have made. You can question whether they lucked into them. Between all of the executives that they fired and all of the failed GM/Coach combos of the Sabres, they know they need to keep them in Buffalo. They have to want to stay - but I think they do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 WR1? Check Young DE? Check RB2? Check If this king finds us an upgrade at CB2 in the 4th I demand we start designing the statue immediately. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I really like the job Beane has been doing, both FA and draft. Hope he sticks around for the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay free Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I must say ...Beane does a great job; but he was just average in this draft . No way we shouldn't have come out without Johnathan taylor, Kyle duggar, Jeremy chin, kj hamler....or jk dobbins..... Indy, New England, Baltimore traded up and all over the board.......one if not both of these teams will be in the afc championship game because of it......when you have control of the division....you got to go for it....and step on your foes throats..... espinenza and moss will never be hall of famers....... taylor, duggar, chinn might ..... just my two cents...... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I seriously would trust Beane to make every life decision for me I love him. Doodle his name in my notebook kinda love 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 57 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I doubt pegula will let him walk like Ralph allowed Polian to walk. Ralph thought Buffalo could recruit on their winning ways while Pegula knows he needs a good GM to get it done. No the Pegulas will not for Beane will not be stupid enough to call one of their daughter a ***** like Polian did and this is something he admitted he did. A daughter who worked in scouting department and actually found some players. I am sure if you were a boss and someone called your daughter a ***** you would have said "You are right. If I am lucky maybe I can get lucky with her." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, Jay free said: I must say ...Beane does a great job; but he was just average in this draft . No way we shouldn't have come out without Johnathan taylor, Kyle duggar, Jeremy chin, kj hamler....or jk dobbins..... Indy, New England, Baltimore traded up and all over the board.......one if not both of these teams will be in the afc championship game because of it......when you have control of the division....you got to go for it....and step on your foes throats..... espinenza and moss will never be hall of famers....... taylor, duggar, chinn might ..... just my two cents...... A good estimate of the value of your post. When will fans learn that it's good practice to at least see these guys play before making incredible judgements about their careers? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I highly doubt him or Mcdermott worry about an extension. They’re here for the long haul. No way they don’t get new contracts. They would have to have one of the worst meltdowns 2 years straight to be out of work here. They have done a fantastic job. It took me a year to see the vision of what they were doing (some others on here still don’t get it) but they sold me after year one 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 They have to win a playoff game this year to begin talking about extensions and the emotion at the high point of the off-season doesn't matter without that. This season is the final exam to determine whether or not their rebuild has been successful. Teams that jettison big contracts, completely overhaul the roster, draft a young QB top-10, make trades like the one for Diggs and completed 4 drafts should be expected to go deep into the post-season. The schedule will most assuredly be harder in 2020 than it was (30th hardest) in 2019. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Lurker said: This guy is a true wizard. We need to lock this front office down and continue to benefit for many more years... Totally with that! ... I feel like Beane & McDermott are higher priority then Milano & White... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I'm almost to the point the point that if Beane and McDermott continue their success, and get screwed by Pegula (I have heard the stories that have come out recently, I dont know if they are true or not, plus I think its hard to say when I live in TN, Im not close enough to the source) **I know I brought it up but... Lets not turn this into a discussion if the those stories/rumors are true. My point about it all is below** Anyways, if both were to leave and be picked up by another team, I dont know where my loyalties would go. I mean I would obviously still love the Buffalo Bills, but if they left and brought in a lot of their current players in this scenario, it would be hard not to cheer for them. I dont think this will happen, but I ran this simulation through my head LOL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNutHawaii Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Reviewing the comments here on how great the Bills GM is as a result of today’s draft - but I haven’t read a single post providing any justification as to why ? I grade today’s draft by the Bills as a generally fair to barely average; with my rationale: - when I compare the Bills draft to other teams (Patriots and Ravens to make a few) we definitely did not get the same value. - I cannot find any way possible to see how the Bills 2 lone picks (plus one trade / Diggs) are better than the Ravens and Patriots drafts today. - The GM is responsible for “shaping” future drafts to allow for a maximum amount of picks to correspond with best value. I didn’t see any of that from the Bills GM within the last year leading up to today’s draft and none of it today during the execution of today’s draft. I do commend the great work which was accomplished with the salary cap and related contracts which is exceptionally hard work - especially to correct all the poor contracts given by the previous GM. If I’m missing something about today, I would like to know - again little to no justification seems to have been provided for today’s so called exceptional work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Beane is a seriously good GM. Re-signing him long term is an absolute MUST. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, letsgoteam said: I'm almost to the point the point that if Beane and McDermott continue their success, and get screwed by Pegula (I have heard the stories that have come out recently, I dont know if they are true or not, plus I think its hard to say when I live in TN, Im not close enough to the source) **I know I brought it up but... Lets not turn this into a discussion if the those stories/rumors are true. My point about it all is below** Anyways, if both were to leave and be picked up by another team, I dont know where my loyalties would go. I mean I would obviously still love the Buffalo Bills, but if they left and brought in a lot of their current players in this scenario, it would be hard not to cheer for them. I dont think this will happen, but I ran this simulation through my head LOL Tf is this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsNutHawaii said: Reviewing the comments here on how great the Bills GM is as a result of today’s draft - but I haven’t read a single post providing any justification as to why ? I grade today’s draft by the Bills as a generally fair to barely average; with my rationale: - when I compare the Bills draft to other teams (Patriots and Ravens to make a few) we definitely did not get the same value. - I cannot find any way possible to see how the Bills 2 lone picks (plus one trade / Diggs) are better than the Ravens and Patriots drafts today. - The GM is responsible for “shaping” future drafts to allow for a maximum amount of picks to correspond with best value. I didn’t see any of that from the Bills GM within the last year leading up to today’s draft and none of it today during the execution of today’s draft. I do commend the great work which was accomplished with the salary cap and related contracts which is exceptionally hard work - especially to correct all the poor contracts given by the previous GM. If I’m missing something about today, I would like to know - again little to no justification seems to have been provided for today’s so called exceptional work. I think Beane lost most of his latitude in this draft when he traded for Diggs. We couldn't move around in the 2nd unless we would give up our 3rd or 4th round pick... which we don't want. Now in Round 4, Beane might move around 1 time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Let me say this up front, I really really like Beane and McDermott. I want them to be here for a while. I love Beane's philosophy on how to build this team and we'll see how he maintains it as Josh Allen gets his new contract. OK, the one thing that really bothers me is that most of the free agents / players coming to the Bills are coming from the Panthers, which is where he was prior to being our GM. He is using his inside knowledge on those players and if they are worth bringing here. I just worry about in a couple of years when he cannot use Carolina players as his personal free agent store (because those will be players he won't know well) and he needs to start evaluating and pulling more FA's from other teams. That is my only real concern. Beane has done a wonderful job with the roster, getting 'extra' players and trading them during training camp, the drafts have been pretty good. Is he perfect? No, but he is working hard for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 44 minutes ago, hjnick said: Let me say this up front, I really really like Beane and McDermott. I want them to be here for a while. I love Beane's philosophy on how to build this team and we'll see how he maintains it as Josh Allen gets his new contract. OK, the one thing that really bothers me is that most of the free agents / players coming to the Bills are coming from the Panthers, which is where he was prior to being our GM. He is using his inside knowledge on those players and if they are worth bringing here. I just worry about in a couple of years when he cannot use Carolina players as his personal free agent store (because those will be players he won't know well) and he needs to start evaluating and pulling more FA's from other teams. That is my only real concern. Beane has done a wonderful job with the roster, getting 'extra' players and trading them during training camp, the drafts have been pretty good. Is he perfect? No, but he is working hard for us. Beane is also hiring from other teams ' front office (i.e. Texans) to get inside information from them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Probation guys, please read for awhile before a couple of you make silly comments. I’m sure you meant well, and a person can find fault with anyone. If you’re older ok, but if not, you haven’t endured through the crap many of us have since the 1970’s. This is the first administration between coaching, management, and personnel many of us middle aged people can get excited about. I know the Polian Levy years were fun, but that was not long enough. Not speaking down to anyone, just understand if you had to watch Kay Stephenson, and so on, you’d be excited as well. Also, we had a great owner who kept our team here even into his death, but for awhile didn’t want to pay for players, then didn’t also want to pay for proven coaches like Chuck Knox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Shouldn't we wait until at least 1 or 2 of his 1st and 2nd round picks lives up to their draft status? Also, he has apparently given up on putting a good OL together despite the fact that he had more cap space than 27 other teams. That said, I think Oliver still has a shot at greatness and maybe Edmunds might turn out OK. I do think a lot of people overrate him, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Jay free said: I must say ...Beane does a great job; but he was just average in this draft . No way we shouldn't have come out without Johnathan taylor, Kyle duggar, Jeremy chin, kj hamler....or jk dobbins..... Indy, New England, Baltimore traded up and all over the board.......one if not both of these teams will be in the afc championship game because of it......when you have control of the division....you got to go for it....and step on your foes throats..... espinenza and moss will never be hall of famers....... taylor, duggar, chinn might ..... just my two cents...... Debbie downer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mramefa Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 hours ago, hjnick said: OK, the one thing that really bothers me is that most of the free agents / players coming to the Bills are coming from the Panthers, which is where he was prior to being our GM. He is using his inside knowledge on those players and if they are worth bringing here. I just worry about in a couple of years when he cannot use Carolina players as his personal free agent store (because those will be players he won't know well) and he needs to start evaluating and pulling more FA's from other teams. There were six starters last year, that Beane brought in as free agents: 1. Mitch Morse 2. Jon Feliciano 3. Quinton Spain 4. John Brown 5. Cole Beasley 6. Frank Gore (first half of the season) None of those free agent signings were from Carolina. In fact, when Beane has brought in Carolina players as free agents, they have tended to do worse here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Limeaid said: No the Pegulas will not for Beane will not be stupid enough to call one of their daughter a ***** like Polian did and this is something he admitted he did. A daughter who worked in scouting department and actually found some players. I am sure if you were a boss and someone called your daughter a ***** you would have said "You are right. If I am lucky maybe I can get lucky with her." Terry is not petty like Ralph. He won’t make such a rash decision because he knows it’s bad for business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Doug Whaley tried really hard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Doug Whaley tried really hard And still sucked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Doug Whaley tried really hard Did he ever fall asleep at important times, like Cornpone was reputed to do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 5 hours ago, hjnick said: I think Beane lost most of his latitude in this draft when he traded for Diggs. We couldn't move around in the 2nd unless we would give up our 3rd or 4th round pick... which we don't want. Now in Round 4, Beane might move around 1 time. I assume by "latitude" you mean leverage ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 hours ago, gobills404 said: WR1? Check Young DE? Check RB2? Check If this king finds us an upgrade at CB2 in the 4th I demand we start designing the statue immediately. WR could use another guy to the group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Lurker said: This guy is a true wizard. We need to lock this front office down and continue to benefit for many more years... Add Executive Vice President title as well, if it helps getting him to ink the contract and fend off .um.. ‘Lurkers’..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Homerism thread at its best. Let's see how we do when we are not expected to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 The only weakness we have is backup LB. kinda scares me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Probation guys, please read for awhile before a couple of you make silly comments. I’m sure you meant well, and a person can find fault with anyone. If you’re older ok, but if not, you haven’t endured through the crap many of us have since the 1970’s. This is the first administration between coaching, management, and personnel many of us middle aged people can get excited about. I know the Polian Levy years were fun, but that was not long enough. Not speaking down to anyone, just understand if you had to watch Kay Stephenson, and so on, you’d be excited as well. Also, we had a great owner who kept our team here even into his death, but for awhile didn’t want to pay for players, then didn’t also want to pay for proven coaches like Chuck Knox. Don’t forget Hank Bullough!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Jay free said: I must say ...Beane does a great job; but he was just average in this draft . No way we shouldn't have come out without Johnathan taylor, Kyle duggar, Jeremy chin, kj hamler....or jk dobbins..... Indy, New England, Baltimore traded up and all over the board.......one if not both of these teams will be in the afc championship game because of it......when you have control of the division....you got to go for it....and step on your foes throats..... espinenza and moss will never be hall of famers....... taylor, duggar, chinn might ..... just my two cents...... We got the steal of the draft. And you want us to waste capital in a year where it’s needed to add a couple finishing touches. Epenesa has the potential to be great. Just read an article that compared him to JJ Watt. And have you watched anything on Moss? Him and Singletary will be a great duo. But you want us to waste picks on a safety when we already have one of the best tandems in the NFL. And Already have a BIG nickel. But I guess that’s why you aren’t are GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Don’t forget Hank Bullough!! ? You had to remind me. We can certainly pile on with about 10 other coaches easily, but thought good old Kay was a typical example. You kill me TD. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 For Beane to be a "great" GM, there are two steps (same as anyone else). First, a deep playoff run with Allen under a rookie contract, next a deep playoff run after Allen gets a major QB payday. Until those things happen he is simply a good GM. The confusion comes from comparing him to decades of terrible GMs. Good is much much better than terrible. But coffee (and the "great" label) are for closers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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