Codyny13 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Did he really say downhill runner? I’d hafta go back and listen to what Beane had said during that press conference recently to tell you what he said verbatim, but essentially yes. 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: All that means is a slow plodding veteran. That is a strategy that holds Allen back and doesn’t allow for points to be scored. When Frank Gore or Chris Ivory or Mike Tolbert or Lesean McCoy is on the field, the defense has no concern. They know it’s base defense, 3 yards and a cloud of dust. It’s a relic of the past that coaches can’t get over. Eh, doesn’t need to be a veteran, or a slow guy. I just think they want a guy that can slam the ball in there when the situation calls for someone to move the pile. Somebody with a little more size than Singletary at 5’7” 200lbs. I think it’s nice to have some variance in the backfield, same as you like to have in your receiver core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: I’d hafta go back and listen to what Beane had said during that press conference recently to tell you what he said verbatim, but essentially yes. Eh, doesn’t need to be a veteran, or a slow guy. I just think they want a guy that can slam the ball in there when the situation calls for someone to move the pile. Somebody with a little more size than Singletary at 5’7” 200lbs. I think it’s nice to have some variance in the backfield, same as you like to have in your receiver core. No problem man, it’s a respected philosophy. I just wonder if that method of achieving yards has been eclipsed by more efficient methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Why must it always be a veteran. Last year with Gore did not work. Now people are considering Shady again. Just stop. Draft a good young cheap RB to compliment Devin. This isn't rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Why must it always be a veteran. Last year with Gore did not work. Now people are considering Shady again. Just stop. Draft a good young cheap RB to compliment Devin. This isn't rocket science. I agree with this. I get it, McDermott has taken the Bills to the Playoffs twice in three years and has a philosophy of a veteran in every personnel grouping, so he gets credit from the fans. But one aspect of football that I don’t agree with are guys like Lee Smith on the roster for blocking, Vlad Ducasse because he’s a veteran, going after Greg Olsen as a free agent Tight End, valuing Joe Webb as a “dual threat” or giving 10 carries a game, on average, to Frank Gore. Those guys are hanging on, when rookies are cheaper and have their best football in front of them. The Bills started to rebuild their offense in 2019 after the debacle of 2018 skill players. Diggs is another step in the right direction. Flush those bottom end guys off the roster. Gore was such a blind spot for the Front Office and Coaching Staff last year and played a role in the Bills Wildcard loss. Edited April 12, 2020 by Straight Hucklebuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, WhoTom said: If I could give you two "likes" for that, I would: one for the opinion and one for the metaphor. I give you the right to use it without attribution. In fact, I'd prefer that it not be traceable to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mickey said: I give you the right to use it without attribution. In fact, I'd prefer that it not be traceable to me. Boom. There's your second "like." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Why must it always be a veteran. Last year with Gore did not work. Now people are considering Shady again. Just stop. Draft a good young cheap RB to compliment Devin. This isn't rocket science. I didn’t love the Gore signing last season but one could argue that it did work. Gore was serviceable early in the year and kept the rookie from wearing down before the middle of the season. I really want them to draft Dobbins if at all possible. I will get flamed for this but if I was Beane I’d package the 2nd and 3rd round pick and climb the board a bit if he is there. He would have that much of an impact. Now all the guys that defended the Zay Zay trade for years can flame my Dobbins idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 We needn't be desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 That ship has sailed, it appeared Shady felt slighted about the whole trade circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 knows the system is so overrated...how hard is for a RB to learn the plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 20 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I agree with this. I get it, McDermott has taken the Bills to the Playoffs twice in three years and has a philosophy of a veteran in every personnel grouping, so he gets credit from the fans. But one aspect of football that I don’t agree with are guys like Lee Smith on the roster for blocking, Vlad Ducasse because he’s a veteran, going after Greg Olsen as a free agent Tight End, valuing Joe Webb as a “dual threat” or giving 10 carries a game, on average, to Frank Gore. Those guys are hanging on, when rookies are cheaper and have their best football in front of them. The Bills started to rebuild their offense in 2019 after the debacle of 2018 skill players. Diggs is another step in the right direction. Flush those bottom end guys off the roster. Gore was such a blind spot for the Front Office and Coaching Staff last year and played a role in the Bills Wildcard loss. Lee Smith is terrible Patrick DiMarco is terrible Frank Gore was terrible How about we stop with this ridiculous philosophy of having underperforming vets for their so called "mentorship". If that's Sean's objective it's not working. Fortunately for the sake of common sense, I think Beane will select a RB with one of our first 2 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Nah. I believe he’s shot, even if he doesn’t think he is and I want a compliment to DS, not an over the hill clone. 9 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Lee Smith is terrible Patrick DiMarco is terrible Frank Gore was terrible How about we stop with this ridiculous philosophy of having underperforming vets for their so called "mentorship". If that's Sean's objective it's not working. Fortunately for the sake of common sense, I think Beane will select a RB with one of our first 2 picks. I think they had some value when McBeane was building the roster. Now that the bulk of that building is completed, their value is negligible at best, and I’d prefer young depth with greater upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 23 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I wouldn’t go the washed up veteran route. We don’t need more Mike Tolbert's, Chris Ivory’s, Frank Gore’s. Do what we did last year, get a 22-year old rookie with some juice in their legs. The Bills/Beane will add competition, but I’d rather have Yeldon than McCoy. That’s exactly where I’m at , we already have Yeldon under contract for one more year and IMO he’s a pretty good option at RB2 who knows the system , draft RB in the later rounds for depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Lee Smith is terrible Patrick DiMarco is terrible Frank Gore was terrible How about we stop with this ridiculous philosophy of having underperforming vets for their so called "mentorship". If that's Sean's objective it's not working. Fortunately for the sake of common sense, I think Beane will select a RB with one of our first 2 picks. Yeah, it’s obviously not working at all. Playoffs 2 out of 3 years after not making it for almost 20. Makes sense edit: not that I’m a fan of DiMarco and Smith but I’m quite sure that our team is better due to having good locker room vets to help other with the trials and tribulations of being an nfl player, on the field and off Edited April 13, 2020 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 He should have been here last year instead of Gore or Yeldon and then allowed to walk when his deal expired. I would not bring him back now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) There are like 100 better choices than McCoy. Why would we bring him back? He's a shell of himself now and also is jaded a bit about being released. 56 minutes ago, NewEra said: Yeah, it’s obviously not working at all. Playoffs 2 out of 3 years after not making it for almost 20. Makes sense edit: not that I’m a fan of DiMarco and Smith but I’m quite sure that our team is better due to having good locker room vets to help other with the trials and tribulations of being an nfl player, on the field and off Agree, its worked thus far and really helped build a players culture. That being said, its time to add a playmaker opposite Devin rather than a vet. McCoy is DEFINITELY not the answer of course. Draft someone to compliment him and let Yeldon backup Devin until our rookie is ready to step up as Devins primary backup and compliment. Edited April 13, 2020 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 12:05 PM, Coach55 said: The perfect veteran backup running back is available to backstop Singletary. He already knows the system and could probably be obtained cheap - that man - LeSean McCoy. He wants to play 2 more years, he meets McDermott's work ethic standards and still has enough gas in the tank to be called on when needed. He liked playing here and the only reason he was cut was for salary cap purposes. Fast forward one year and I wouldn't be surprised if he is the quality back up that we are all craving. No, how about a running back that can cram it down opponents throats. Shady is done and at best is a situational 3rd down back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 The healthy scratches in KC last year tells me he's done. Maybe Philly takes him on to back up/mentor Miles Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Putin said: That’s exactly where I’m at , we already have Yeldon under contract for one more year and IMO he’s a pretty good option at RB2 who knows the system , draft RB in the later rounds for depth Not playing Yeldon over Gore last year was one of Daboll/ Sean's worst decisions. It's like they were just carting him out there for that record. They'll be an amazing RB available to us in the 2nd round. Maybe someone a little better than Singletary? Who knows. And we won't have to spend big cap money on him either. They gotta scrub this vet RB idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Not playing Yeldon over Gore last year was one of Daboll/ Sean's worst decisions. It's like they were just carting him out there for that record. They'll be an amazing RB available to us in the 2nd round. Maybe someone a little better than Singletary? Who knows. And we won't have to spend big cap money on him either. They gotta scrub this vet RB idea. Yeldon is the vet now and they will draft a RB in rounds 2-4 depending how the picks fall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I get the sneaky suspicion WGR tunes in here -a LOT! They had a segment earlier about this very topic, Shady returning. He claims he wants to play 2 more years, as all previous 12,000 yard rushers are in the HOF, which it seems he’s on the outside looking in. GR was interviewing someone “in the know” who basically claimed he’s done. His buddy Andy Reid didn’t even dress him in the SB. Could just be me, but it’s not the 1st time a Wall topic somehow made it out in the real world and got AirPlay. Should I dress more appropriately?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 12:05 PM, Coach55 said: The perfect veteran backup running back is available to backstop Singletary. He already knows the system and could probably be obtained cheap - that man - LeSean McCoy. He wants to play 2 more years, he meets McDermott's work ethic standards and still has enough gas in the tank to be called on when needed. He liked playing here and the only reason he was cut was for salary cap purposes. Fast forward one year and I wouldn't be surprised if he is the quality back up that we are all craving. No thanks. There are dozens of capable backs who cost less and don't come with the ego of Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: No thanks. There are dozens of capable backs who cost less and don't come with the ego of Shady. While I agree, I don’t want him, I don’t think he’s going to cost a lot. I’d say he’s a vet minimum at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I was expecting this to be about Keith Ford or Travaris Cadet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 4:23 PM, nucci said: knows the system is so overrated...how hard is for a RB to learn the plays? Give me a playbook during this quarantine and I promise you I would know the system too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 There should be more than enough RB talent available in the 4th-5th rds of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: There should be more than enough RB talent available in the 4th-5th rds of the draft. There is, but Akers is big time to me. If he is available at 54, the Bills gotta take him. He brings EVERYTHING to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 12:05 PM, Coach55 said: The perfect veteran backup running back is available to backstop Singletary. He already knows the system and could probably be obtained cheap - that man - LeSean McCoy. He wants to play 2 more years, he meets McDermott's work ethic standards and still has enough gas in the tank to be called on when needed. He liked playing here and the only reason he was cut was for salary cap purposes. Fast forward one year and I wouldn't be surprised if he is the quality back up that we are all craving. I don’t think McDermott or Beane are craving all of Shady’s negative, east west runs. Hence why they let him go. They want north south runners. Gore, they were hoping could still do it, he couldn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) Why in the world would you settle for the 8th to 15th running back in the draft? Those other guys got drafted ahead of them for some reason that at least 7 teams in the NFL think are important. (Opps, many posters here are too shiek to believe that somebody who gets the ball on about 40% of the offensive plays is really important) We need a RB that other teams are afraid of. Singletary does not do many things well and we could EASILY improve the team by drafting a top RB. Yes, he is a nice player and a Bill. I get that we are all homers and like our guys. We need somebody with the speed to get around the corner. We need somebody with natural pass catching ability. We need somebody who can be a weapon in the short passing game- especially deadly now that we have two very good and speedy wideouts to make the defense defend more downfield. We need somebody who has enough speed and WR ability to give the other team fits, when he lines up outside and gives us a 4th wideout look. ==================================================================================================================== McCaffrey $16,0 million a year 1,387 yards rushing 1,005 yards receiving 1st round pick 8 rank at RB 1 Diggs $14.4 million a year ------------------------------- 1,130 yards receiving Yeldon $01.5 million a year 63 yards rushing 124 yards receiving 2nd round pick 36 rank at RB 96 Singeltary $00.97 million a year 775 yards rushing 194 yards receiving 3rd round pick 4 rank at RB 31 You get what you pay for. Edited April 14, 2020 by maryland-bills-fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 10 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said: Why in the world would you settle for the 8th to 15th running back in the draft? Those other guys got drafted ahead of them for some reason that at least 7 teams in the NFL think are important. (Opps, many posters here are too shiek to believe that somebody who gets the ball on about 40% of the offensive plays is really important) We need a RB that other teams are afraid of. Singletary does not do many things well and we could EASILY improve the team by drafting a top RB. Yes, he is a nice player and a Bill. I get that we are all homers and like our guys. We need somebody with the speed to get around the corner. We need somebody with natural pass catching ability. We need somebody who can be a weapon in the short passing game- especially deadly now that we have two very good and speedy wideouts to make the defense defend more downfield. We need somebody who has enough speed and WR ability to give the other team fits, when he lines up outside and gives us a 4th wideout look. ==================================================================================================================== McCaffrey $16,0 million a year 1,387 yards rushing 1,005 yards receiving 1st round pick 8 rank at RB 1 Diggs $14.4 million a year ------------------------------- 1,130 yards receiving Yeldon $01.5 million a year 63 yards rushing 124 yards receiving 2nd round pick 36 rank at RB 96 Singeltary $00.97 million a year 775 yards rushing 194 yards receiving 3rd round pick 4 rank at RB 31 You get what you pay for. To consider Singletary the 31st best RB because he only had 775 yards discounts the fact that his YPC was a very good 5.1. Singletary averaged 15 touches per game (and missed some time with the hamstring) to McCaffreys 24. Was there room for improvement? Yes - Ball security was an issue at times (watching him get run down is terrifying), he had some room to improve in the passing game (drops mainly). But he was a rookie... I think one can expect some level of improvement. He also had massively increased usage in the 2nd half of the year. I don't feel like extrapolating over a full season but I suppose I could. Oh, and McCaffrey averaged 12.3 touches his rookie year, and had 435 yards rushing on 3.7 YPC. Just comparing rookie seasons in that way gives Singletary a leg up. I personally don't care how Buffalo does it - but get the YPC up, and get running backs who can make plays in the passing game. I'd prefer keeping costs low however you do it so you can continue to invest in the offensive line. Baltimore rolls 3 deep, same with SF and Arizona last year. However you don't need to give one guy 300 carries, if giving 2 guys 150 carries works just as well for half the price. The key to me is if Singletary isn't going to be your RB to get 75-100 targets out of the backfield, we need that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, dneveu said: To consider Singletary the 31st best RB because he only had 775 yards discounts the fact that his YPC was a very good 5.1. Singletary averaged 15 touches per game (and missed some time with the hamstring) to McCaffreys 24. Was there room for improvement? Yes - Ball security was an issue at times (watching him get run down is terrifying), he had some room to improve in the passing game (drops mainly). But he was a rookie... I think one can expect some level of improvement. He also had massively increased usage in the 2nd half of the year. I don't feel like extrapolating over a full season but I suppose I could. Oh, and McCaffrey averaged 12.3 touches his rookie year, and had 435 yards rushing on 3.7 YPC. Just comparing rookie seasons in that way gives Singletary a leg up. I personally don't care how Buffalo does it - but get the YPC up, and get running backs who can make plays in the passing game. I'd prefer keeping costs low however you do it so you can continue to invest in the offensive line. Baltimore rolls 3 deep, same with SF and Arizona last year. However you don't need to give one guy 300 carries, if giving 2 guys 150 carries works just as well for half the price. The key to me is if Singletary isn't going to be your RB to get 75-100 targets out of the backfield, we need that guy. I didn't make that #31 ranking but lets be honest. You rate people on production and not on emotions. He was 22nd in yards rushing and 44th in yards receiving for a running back. Yes, he missed 4 games. You might expect that for a smaller RB who does most of their work between the tackles. Singletary had only 41 receptions and we needed another weapon there and he was not it and probably will not make great improvements there. With some luck, we can get a top 3 or top 5 RB this year and it is a good year for them. It would be stupid to go cheap and take a 3rd or 4th round player because "it is a bargain and cost effective" or some other excuse. Lets get a guy, who the "experts" feel is a certain 3 down starter, rather than a guy who is expected to be a complementary piece, or a good backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/14/2020 at 5:58 AM, maryland-bills-fan said: Why in the world would you settle for the 8th to 15th running back in the draft? Those other guys got drafted ahead of them for some reason that at least 7 teams in the NFL think are important. (Opps, many posters here are too shiek to believe that somebody who gets the ball on about 40% of the offensive plays is really important) We need a RB that other teams are afraid of. Singletary does not do many things well and we could EASILY improve the team by drafting a top RB. Yes, he is a nice player and a Bill. I get that we are all homers and like our guys. We need somebody with the speed to get around the corner. We need somebody with natural pass catching ability. We need somebody who can be a weapon in the short passing game- especially deadly now that we have two very good and speedy wideouts to make the defense defend more downfield. We need somebody who has enough speed and WR ability to give the other team fits, when he lines up outside and gives us a 4th wideout look. ==================================================================================================================== McCaffrey $16,0 million a year 1,387 yards rushing 1,005 yards receiving 1st round pick 8 rank at RB 1 Diggs $14.4 million a year ------------------------------- 1,130 yards receiving Yeldon $01.5 million a year 63 yards rushing 124 yards receiving 2nd round pick 36 rank at RB 96 Singeltary $00.97 million a year 775 yards rushing 194 yards receiving 3rd round pick 4 rank at RB 31 You get what you pay for. First, Diggs doesn't even belong in this conversation. We are talking RB's here I think. Otherwise if you really want to include ALL players at ALL positions this conversation is really gonna get bogged down quickly. For example I can think of a whole lot of QB's that don't EARN their keep. So let's just talk RB's OK? Do you think that the Cowboys were happy with Zeke's play this season? How bout the Jets with Bell? Or the Rams with Todd Gurley? Or the Cardinals with David Johnson? Point is that there are lots of RB's that don't EARN their big fat contracts. I'd rather draft a couple no name RB's who you won't have to pay exhorbitant contracts to. Many of them simply seem to wear out too quickly. (like right after they sign a new contract) And yes. alot of other players don't EARN their salaries either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 12:29 PM, I'm Spartacus said: He'd never want to come back. He probably feels like we stiffed him. He will say the Bills "disrespected" him. Too much of a "me" guy, but I liked his play a few years back. Everything I read said we gave him a chance to sign with whoever he wanted by cutting him and not trying to trade him. He got a damn superbowl ring as a result. Pretty sure hes fine with how things went. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: First, Diggs doesn't even belong in this conversation. We are talking RB's here I think. Otherwise if you really want to include ALL players at ALL positions this conversation is really gonna get bogged down quickly. For example I can think of a whole lot of QB's that don't EARN their keep. So let's just talk RB's OK? Do you think that the Cowboys were happy with Zeke's play this season? How bout the Jets with Bell? Or the Rams with Todd Gurley? Or the Cardinals with David Johnson? Point is that there are lots of RB's that don't EARN their big fat contracts. I'd rather draft a couple no name RB's who you won't have to pay exhorbitant contracts to. Many of them simply seem to wear out too quickly. (like right after they sign a new contract) And yes. alot of other players don't EARN their salaries either. Diggs was included to illustrate how significant McCaffrey's receiving numbers were. Receiving yards IS part of the conversation when you are discussing running backs. There are a lot of running backs who don't earn their keep. As well as other positions. ... and your point is? You get what you pay for. Sometimes you get more and sometimes less. The market pays more for players who are expected to be better. The market does NOT pay more for poorer players. The market expects higher draft picks to perform better than lower draft picks. A rookie RB is on a four year cost-controlled contract. They are cheaper than the same quality veterans, but come with some start-up time and some possibility of being a bust. The bust rate goes way up in later rounds. . . ick Range Total Value Signing Bonus Picks 33-41 $7,650,500 to $7,125,435 $3,584,000 to $3,202,135 Picks 42-48 $6,994,472 to $6,077,737 $3,106,889 to $2,440,173 Picks 49-64 $5,932,210 to $4,578,946 $2,334,334 to $1,350,142 NFL Draft Rookie Contracts: Round 3 Pick Range Total Value Signing Bonus Picks 65-74 $4,278,420 to $4,028,376 $1,138,382 to $1,031,870 Picks 75-92 $3,975,925 to $3,624,290 $1,002,690 to $863,695 Picks 93-102* $3,458,115 to $3,399,480 $793,704 to $761,516 NFL Draft Contracts: Rounds 4 -7 Round Total Value Signing Bonus Round 4 $3,324,499 to $3,006,531* $804,499 to $486,531 Round 5 $2,868,832 to $2,753,988* $348,832 to $233,988 Round 6 $2,728,511 to $2,647,353* $208,511 to $127,353 Round 7 $2,631,885 to $2,594,288* $111,885 to $74,288 https://heavy.com/sports/2019/04/nfl-draft-pick-salaries-contracts-signing-bonuses/ Edited April 15, 2020 by maryland-bills-fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) On 4/12/2020 at 12:31 PM, KD in CA said: In bed. LeShady's time has come and gone. We need younger, cheaper options running downhill, not backwards. Edited April 15, 2020 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: Diggs was included to illustrate how significant McCaffrey's receiving numbers were. Receiving yards IS part of the conversation when you are discussing running backs. You get what you pay for. There are a lot of running backs who don't earn their keep. As well as other positions. ... and your point is? A rookie RB is on a four year cost-controlled contract. . . ick Range Total Value Signing Bonus Picks 33-41 $7,650,500 to $7,125,435 $3,584,000 to $3,202,135 Picks 42-48 $6,994,472 to $6,077,737 $3,106,889 to $2,440,173 Picks 49-64 $5,932,210 to $4,578,946 $2,334,334 to $1,350,142 NFL Draft Rookie Contracts: Round 3 Pick Range Total Value Signing Bonus Picks 65-74 $4,278,420 to $4,028,376 $1,138,382 to $1,031,870 Picks 75-92 $3,975,925 to $3,624,290 $1,002,690 to $863,695 Picks 93-102* $3,458,115 to $3,399,480 $793,704 to $761,516 NFL Draft Contracts: Rounds 4 -7 Round Total Value Signing Bonus Round 4 $3,324,499 to $3,006,531* $804,499 to $486,531 Round 5 $2,868,832 to $2,753,988* $348,832 to $233,988 Round 6 $2,728,511 to $2,647,353* $208,511 to $127,353 Round 7 $2,631,885 to $2,594,288* $111,885 to $74,288 https://heavy.com/sports/2019/04/nfl-draft-pick-salaries-contracts-signing-bonuses/ I mean Ekeler was a UDFA, and just got a raise to 6M per year. He was just as productive a receiver as McCaffrey - and split time with Gordon. They replaced Gordon with Justin Jackson who was a 7th round pick. The Ravens had Ingram, Edwards, Hill. All I'm saying is you can get the production from other players at the position. Of the 5 leading rushers in the NFL, 2 made the playoffs. From a pure team rushing yardage perspective, its somewhat of a precursor to success (Turnover Differential seems to always point to playoff teams) - but I don't think those yards need to come from a single player. Rush Yards per game - Buffalo ranked 8th Rush Yards per carry - Buffalo ranked 13th Expected points from Rushing offense - Buffalo ranked 9th As for pass catching running backs A- Daboll needs to build into the offense more since I think some of the gimme plays give Allen a bit of confidence B- RBs who catch passes don't necessarily equal team/offensive success. 5/15 of the leading receiving backs teams made the playoffs. Outside of NO and the Vikings, I wouldn't even consider the other 3 to have particularly good offenses. Christian McCaffrey 116 1005 Austin Ekeler 92 993 Alvin Kamara 81 533 Tarik Cohen 79 456 Leonard Fournette 76 522 James White 72 645 Le'Veon Bell 66 461 Devonta Freeman 59 410 Ezekiel Elliott* 54 420 Dalvin Cook 53 519 Saquon Barkley 52 438 Miles Sanders 50 509 Aaron Jones 49 474 Jaylen Samuels 47 305 Nyheim Hines 44 320 Edited April 15, 2020 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, dneveu said: I mean Ekeler was a UDFA, and just got a raise to 6M per year. He was just as productive a receiver as McCaffrey - and split time with Gordon. They replaced Gordon with Justin Jackson who was a 7th round pick. The Ravens had Ingram, Edwards, Hill. All I'm saying is you can get the production from other players at the position. Of the 5 leading rushers in the NFL, 2 made the playoffs. From a pure team rushing yardage perspective, its somewhat of a precursor to success (Turnover Differential seems to always point to playoff teams) - but I don't think those yards need to come from a single player. Rush Yards per game - Buffalo ranked 8th Rush Yards per carry - Buffalo ranked 13th Expected points from Rushing offense - Buffalo ranked 9th As for pass catching running backs A- Daboll needs to build into the offense more since I think some of the gimme plays give Allen a bit of confidence B- RBs who catch passes don't necessarily equal team/offensive success. 5/15 of the leading receiving backs teams made the playoffs. Outside of NO and the Vikings, I wouldn't even consider the other 3 to have particularly good offenses. Christian McCaffrey 116 1005 Austin Ekeler 92 993 Alvin Kamara 81 533 Tarik Cohen 79 456 Leonard Fournette 76 522 James White 72 645 Le'Veon Bell 66 461 Devonta Freeman 59 410 Ezekiel Elliott* 54 420 Dalvin Cook 53 519 Saquon Barkley 52 438 Miles Sanders 50 509 Aaron Jones 49 474 Jaylen Samuels 47 305 Nyheim Hines 44 320 Thank you for you comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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