SWATeam Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Binghamton Beast said: Elway had the New York Yankees. And what did Eli have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I would be very angry right now if I were a Miami Dolphins fan. 10 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Totally different situation. The Mannings has leverage by being the closest thing to football royalty that could exist. Not to mention SD loved Philip Rivers. There isn't anything close to Burrow in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: tank the Wonderlic Nnnnnnnot so sure that's what happened there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I always loved Alex Van Pelt haha i read that and was like...van pelt is their qb coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Nice to hear a parent and player being grateful and gracious about a potential team. 1) he’s from there so it would be pretty terrible if he didn’t want to play for them. 2) I do get the sentiment. I really do. But how many jobs do you not get a choice where you have to live for multiple years? Edited January 17, 2020 by C.Biscuit97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 This really isn't big news lol Very few players go out of there and call there shot and say I don't wanna play here , don't draft me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Of course he’s going to Cincinnati. I’m sure that’s not his first choice but since he has no control he will accept it. Burrow has “it.” He has all of the QB intangibles and incredible pocket awareness. I will be surprised if he isn’t a good NFL QB. The only thing that “worries” me 1) his number increase is absolutely amazing. There was zero evidence this was in store. 2) he’s older 3) personally, I like qbs who put up huge college numbers who are carrying the team. He was playing on a nfl offense. that said, I really like him and that was as dominant of a season as I have ever seen. I think they should keep Dalton for one more year but they suddenly became really interesting. 5 hours ago, JMF2006 said: I hope they use all their remaining picks on offence to build around the young man. Their skill players are pretty good. They have the woman puncher at rbs and some good rbs. Their oline sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Looks like that will leave the Steelers as the only afc north team without their QB of the future and no 1st rd pick. You hate to see it. The Duck will spread it's wings once again and fly mightily over the great pond of life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Lurker said: Based on post-season bowl performance between Burrow and Chase, it's laughable to think there's even debate about who's #1... In the OSU Bowl game, Chase looked very average. He might slide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, aristocrat said: i read that and was like...van pelt is their qb coach? I see his name come up randomly more than any other former Bill seems like. He's been everywhere hustling his 3rd stringer QB skills. Man has lived the NFL life with zero pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Totally different situation. The Mannings has leverage by being the closest thing to football royalty that could exist. 33 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Ok, what about John Elway? 27 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Burrow has zero in the clout department compared to Eli Manning when he came out. Elway had the New York Yankees. 25 minutes ago, SWATeam said: And what did Eli have? Not that I care about this argument but y'all got caught in a loop. The argument posed is Eli was football royalty and Elway had baseball. If you ask for one player each question and then the other next question it makes it sound like nobody is answering for the other guy.. FWIW I think regardless of the leverage these 2 show enough precedent that if a top pick brings up enough stink about getting drafted they do make it very hard for the drafting team to go through with selecting them. Edited January 17, 2020 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Nice to hear a parent and player being grateful and gracious about a potential team. just watch, when he DOES go 1st overall to Cinci he’ll probably start swearing uncontrollably while holding up a picture of his grandmother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Not that I care about this argument but y'all got caught in a loop. The argument posed is Eli was football royalty and Elway had baseball. If you ask for one player each question and then the other next question it makes it sound like nobody is answering for the other guy.. He could pull a Bo Jackson ala 1986. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, The Jokeman said: He could pull a Bo Jackson ala 1986. I think draftees have more leverage than we give them. I just found that forum exchange pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I think draftees have more leverage than we give them. I just found that forum exchange pretty funny. They do but I don't think most do as if they do it could really destroy leagues and don't think any draft pick would want to be the cause of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: They do but I don't think most do as if they do it could really destroy leagues and don't think any draft pick would want to be the cause of that. For sure. None past the top end of the first round since pretty much any other player is lucky to even be drafted. The best recent example I can think of is La'ell Collins who after sliding far enough claimed he wouldn't sign with anybody that drafted him.. allowing him to be a former projected 1st rounder turned an UDFA who could choose whatever team he wanted. If that was repeated with any more success that tactic would certainly wreck the league. I presume the owners would rather blackball with most cases. But La'ell had been particularly screwed predraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 BREAKING: NCAA Determines Becoming A Bengal Punishment Enough For Joe Burrow Taking Cash From Odell Beckham ??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, billykay said: In the OSU Bowl game, Chase looked very average. He might slide. This is sarcasm....right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: This is sarcasm....right? I didn't say that he's no good. I merely said that off his Bowl game, I thought that he looked average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, billykay said: I didn't say that he's no good. I merely said that off his Bowl game, I thought that he looked average. And because of that, you think the Redskins will pass on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: 1) he’s from there so it would be pretty terrible if he didn’t want to play for them. 2) I do get the sentiment. I really do. But how many jobs do you not get a choice where you have to live for multiple years? I find it refreshing in this age of ‘helicopter parents’ (see the circus in D.C.) and first round draft picks belittling other franchises that father and son here show class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: And because of that, you think the Redskins will pass on him? Does anyone know for sure? They may take Chase or they might look to trade down. There are probably many GMs that would prefer to trade that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Of course he’s going to Cincinnati. I’m sure that’s not his first choice but since he has no control he will accept it. Burrow has “it.” He has all of the QB intangibles and incredible pocket awareness. I will be surprised if he isn’t a good NFL QB. for me, the only question is whether he will be a star right out of the box or will it take him a couple years to get there. i'm leaning towards him being a star right out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: This really isn't big news lol Very few players go out of there and call there shot and say I don't wanna play here , don't draft me ...um, some may want to rethink that if in OBD's plans and having to face the legendary "TBD Draft Review Squad"......hell, you could be labeled a "bust" anywhere from pre-season to a MAXIMUM of six starts in your career......could twist an ankle dodging the pigeon droppings on their "red carpet welcome mat".....tough crowd....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: The Duck will spread it's wings once again and fly mightily over the great pond of life. To paraphrase Douglas Adams, send that in to the Readers’ Digest. They’ve got a page for observations like that. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Nnnnnnnot so sure that's what happened there. I expect I’d disagree with your take as I believe Jackson is quite intelligent, just as Harbaugh asserts. Tank is probably the wrong word. Let’s just say I think he didn’t see it as important thus didn’t bother to prepare for it, just like he didn’t bother with the 40 yd dash or agility events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleSammy Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 hours ago, JMF2006 said: I hope they use all their remaining picks on offence to build around the young man. But they will have Cordy Glenn protecting his blind side. Ouch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Humbleness = Refreshing. I'm sorry, where is the quote where he says, "The Bengals are hot garbage if they don't pick me, and I am going to make them pay for their mistake!"? Oh, there isn't one...good. Edited January 17, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, LittleSammy said: But they will have Cordy Glenn protecting his blind side. Ouch! Jonah Williams will be back and he said he will only play LT in the nfl. So it looks like it’s his job to do so. Wonder if Glenn is even back in Cincy next year, things were pretty tenuous between those two parties this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 hours ago, JMF2006 said: I hope they use all their remaining picks on offence to build around the young man. Yep, starting with the o-line so the kid doesn't get killed. Any position on the line that is questionable should be upgraded. Also, I doubt Cincy lets AJ Green go, they have a vet WR1 who will be a friendly target for a rookie QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, SWATeam said: And what did Eli have? Eli had more than one great year in college and the Manning family. Edited January 17, 2020 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 hours ago, whorlnut said: Totally different situation. The Mannings has leverage by being the closest thing to football royalty that could exist. You think the Chargers worried about “Manning Football Royalty”? I don’t think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 He may be happy playing in his home state, but he may not be thrilled playing on that particular team, especially if Green is not Green anymore or is moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, LabattBlue said: You think the Chargers worried about “Manning Football Royalty”? I don’t think so. How long was Eli a Charger? I’ll wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: The only thing that “worries” me 1) his number increase is absolutely amazing. There was zero evidence this was in store. 2) he’s older 3) personally, I like qbs who put up huge college numbers who are carrying the team. He was playing on a nfl offense. that said, I really like him and that was as dominant of a season as I have ever seen. I think they should keep Dalton for one more year but they suddenly became really interesting. Their skill players are pretty good. They have the woman puncher at rbs and some good rbs. Their oline sucks. C.Biscuit97 a good friend of mine moved to New Orleans years ago and got me hooked on LSU football. They're my 3rd favorite team behind only The Ohio State Buckeyes & the University of Cincinnati. I saw most of last years LSU games and thought Burrow did pretty good with a very young team against a BRUTAL schedule. Considering how inexperienced he and the rest of the offense were his numbers were above average and he actually had a solid season. He showed flashes of brilliance in leading LSU to big wins over 3 top 10 teams last year. Check out hist last two games from last year - a mega SEVEN OT loss to Texas AM and LSU's New Years Day Bowl victory over an undefeated UCF. In both games Burrow was stellar and offered a nice preview of what he would do this year. BTW it was those games that Joe Brady watched in the off season after getting the job that convinced him that Burrow could run a wide open spread offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 9 hours ago, soflabillsfan1 said: I don't know how a QB who plays in the SEC, throws 60 TD's and beats 7 top 10 teams isn't the best prospect in the draft. The only major knock on him is arm strength as he throws a rainbow arch on deep balls. Faster safeties and CB's in the NFL will take advantage of that. That's the only reason he's not an "Andrew Luck" can't miss type prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: The only major knock on him is arm strength as he throws a rainbow arch on deep balls. Faster safeties and CB's in the NFL will take advantage of that. That's the only reason he's not an "Andrew Luck" can't miss type prospect. As it turns out, if he has the arm to overthrow the WR by 10 yards, there’s very little risk of in interception. Sorry, I couldn’t help myself........ . Edited January 18, 2020 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 13 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Eli Manning says hi. So does Elway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Augie said: As it turns out, if he has the arm to overthrow the WR by 10 yards, there’s very little risk of in interception. Sorry, I couldn’t help myself........ Right. It's the reason neither will ever be Aaron Rodgers or John Elway. I think the Romo comparisons are the most apt when it comes to Burrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 i like that a Canadian media outlet gets the scoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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