RyanC883 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, dbfla10 said: The missed sack by Milano Cunningham blowing by 3 olineman and blowing up Allen Fords "blindside" block I am not a Milano fan and his lack of ideal size was shown true again with the HUGE missed sack. But in my opinion after all that happened how does the line miss the safety on that play? Its pin and pull. Block down and pull your lineman to basically block first color. This was perfectly called and ran out of different formation from the 1st series in the game. On tv it looks if they block the safety Allen may score. That play IMO hurt the most. the phantom blindside block. One, it didn't happen, and two, put us out of FG range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhh9327 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: the phantom blindside block. One, it didn't happen, and two, put us out of FG range. 38 yard line is in FG range for other teams, but not us this year. I can't believe we would have tried it if the penalty wasn't called. For me that call just represents the penalties the refs were going to make us overcome and the no in game penalties the Texans were given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) The 3rd and 18 defense giving up the first down when a delay of game should have been called is the game in a nutshell. Lack of execution and a bad missed call all in one. Edited January 6, 2020 by Ayjent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Magox said: Milano is a high quality Linebacker, elite LB coverage skills and a decent run stuffer. His weakness is he sometimes misses too many tackles. Even though that last play, whats odd about that play is if Siran or Milano didn't blitz the sack most likely happens. It caused a sandwiching sort of an effect where siran knocked him back and Milano hit him from the other side and straightened him back up. The key is to try to wrap up and drag him down, even though I know when they are flying in at full speed with all the adrenaline they are just trying to get to the QB and hit the crap out of him as opposed to just bringing him down. Again, I think Siran hitting him sort of threw off his tackling technique. I know I know, excuses. And it is and it still doesn't excuse the missed tackle but I am convinced Siran hitting him first caused that to happen. I do agree with Milano failing to wrap up has a problem, however I submit it was by far the main cause for Watson getting away. Neal was down lo mad Milano basically gives Watson a chest bump. Also, this is to familiar with Milano's blitzes. This and that he comes in too out of control and is easily side stepped as Watson did on a couple palys earlier in the game. Love his fire but must improve his tackling and body control on blitzes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I’ll say it again...the holding penalty on Kroft that negated the catch by Duke killed the drive that would’ve stopped the momentum swing. He doesn’t hold and the Bills go on to score at least one more field goal, to end it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Magox said: The whiffed block/missed assignment by Knox on the run by Allen that would have surely got the Bills into field goal range to win the game. I can see one guy missing #41, but 3 guys leading the charge and they all selected NO ONE to block. Josh had a lane down the sideline. Pathetic and embarrassing. The blindside block is poorly written and interpreted. That was no more a penalty then the kickoff recovery. Common sense. And at 6-0/220 Milano's not tackling anyone. Way to small to play NFL LB..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I can see one guy missing #41, but 3 guys leading the charge and they all selected NO ONE to block. Josh had a lane down the sideline. Pathetic and embarrassing. The blindside block is poorly written and interpreted. That was no more a penalty then the kickoff recovery. Common sense. And at 6-0/220 Milano's not tackling anyone. Way to small to play NFL LB..... On the contrary, that play was beautifully schemed and called, the problem was that someone or someone's missed their assignment. There is a chance that play could have been taken for a score, at the very minimum a 15 yard gainer. There was no one else that could have made that tackle and if Knox has that guy blocked, there is another lead blocker to block the next guy who wouldn't even had to be blocked until at least 10 yards down the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: The first 2 point conversion changed the entire game. Still being up by 2 scores with a quarter to go means your still comfortably in control. And all Poyer had to do was lower his shoulder to keep Watson out of end zone. You’d think he’d man up there after Watson dragged him 8 yards for the TD. My heart sunk when they converted. Right then and there I knew this was going to be a 50/50 game with the Bills not having the fortitude to withstand a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 What's equally frustrating about the 3-18 plays is that Oliver blows up the LG with a clear path to Watson, but is blatantly held from behind and then got thrown to the ground behind Watson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: the phantom blindside block. One, it didn't happen, and two, put us out of FG range. Had the penalty been declined or not called, it was still out of field goal range unless you think Hauschka has 56 yards in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Honestly I think Dimarco should have better timed his jump. That 40 yards probably gets Josh to 300. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: How was the missed tackle by Milano and Neal NOT the Bills fault? That play literally cost the game. The block could have won the game. Seen it a bunch of times; two defenders hit at the same time and bounce off. Much of that was athleticism from Jackson and then making the easy decision to dump it off. That's not the same as completely whiffing a tackle or not being in position to make the play. Completely whiffing the block was 100% on Knox. He was there and just didn't even go for the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, dbfla10 said: The missed sack by Milano Cunningham blowing by 3 olineman and blowing up Allen Fords "blindside" block I am not a Milano fan and his lack of ideal size was shown true again with the HUGE missed sack. But in my opinion after all that happened how does the line miss the safety on that play? Its pin and pull. Block down and pull your lineman to basically block first color. This was perfectly called and ran out of different formation from the 1st series in the game. On tv it looks if they block the safety Allen may score. That play IMO hurt the most. Allen fumble that he was ruled down on... my wife looked at that vid of him on sideline and said he looked scared... no one came over to lift his spirits pick him up... coaches?, Vets where the hell were you... he lost some of his moxy after that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Refresh my memory on that Knox block?? 1st and 10 on the 43 in OT. Those two Bills seal their blocks and Allen is still running down the sideline. Game over. That was 100% in the Bills' control. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: The first 2 point conversion changed the entire game. Still being up by 2 scores with a quarter to go means your still comfortably in control. And all Poyer had to do was lower his shoulder to keep Watson out of end zone. You’d think he’d man up there after Watson dragged him 8 yards for the TD. I think that first one AND the second one were both instrumental plays that led to our doom. If we had stopped either they're two points short of the win in regulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: 1st and 10 on the 43 in OT. Those two Bills seal their blocks and Allen is still running down the sideline. Game over. That was 100% in the Bills' control. Feliciano looks to be eyeing up that db out there. all that needed to happen was knox or morse get a hat on that backer in the circle.... its made me sick for 2 days now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: Feliciano looks to be eyeing up that db out there. all that needed to happen was knox or morse get a hat on that backer in the circle.... its made me sick for 2 days now. Yeah, because there are two Bills and two Texans. Feliciano is following the order. Rookie mistake by Knox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: Yeah, because there are two Bills and two Texans. Feliciano is following the order. Rookie mistake by Knox. ya i'm not blaming Feliciano. all that needs to happen is for knox to do his job or morse to even just misdirect the LB.... this play more than any other has stuck with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 It is brutal, man. Perfect play call. This is the play that winning teams execute to put the game away. The Bills should learn from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Chris Brown said that miss was on Morse. Not sure. I will have to watch it again. or are we not talking about the Allen sweep? if it was it just adds to the fact that Morse has been disgustingly underwhelming this season. we could have prob got that production out of a average veteran Center instead of overpaying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Yeah, it’s easily the QB sweep for me as well. I jumped off the sofa quickly after the snap as I saw 3 blockers and 2 Texans between Josh and a game winning TD. I thought there was no way we don’t get a TD on that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Honestly I think Dimarco should have better timed his jump. That 40 yards probably gets Josh to 300. ? If you watch the play again, when Josh looked and threw the ball, DiMarco was two yards past his guy and open. Josh threw it well short. Like ten yards. DiMarco had to completely stop, wait, and jump, which he did time horribly and could have caught. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 The missed block on #41 by 3 guys. Josh runs for 20+ yards there maybe even scores. Knox was the moat culpable followed by Feliciano I think. Morse was the last guy of the three but he was the least in position to make the block. That's what I recall off the top of my head. Medium range FG to win would have been the worst outcome if #41 is blocked 19 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: if it was it just adds to the fact that Morse has been disgustingly underwhelming this season. we could have prob got that production out of a average veteran Center instead of overpaying him. While I agree with your Morse season assessment, I think it was Knox's play to make 3 hours ago, MJS said: If you're not a Milano fan, you're nuts. Milano makes impact plays all the time and is good in coverage. He's young and will continue to improve. What's more, when he has been out the defense has noticeably suffered. Not true. He is a solid player but he's not that great in coverage and he actually didn't make that many game changing plays this year. He is a fine weak side linebacker but the need a much better attacking linebacker to replace Lorax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Knox was just confused all day, he even messed up the lateral pass from allen by moving in too close at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: My heart sunk when they converted. Right then and there I knew this was going to be a 50/50 game with the Bills not having the fortitude to withstand a comeback. If you want to see how a winning organization operates look no further than the final drive in Seahawk/Eagle game Sunday. Third and long for Wilson Eagles have a single TO left. Hand it off and make them burn their last one correct? NO! Go for the jugular and throw that SOB deep to finish em off. That's how you win guys. To watch the Bills gradually sink into a conservative funk the last half was giving me a sense of the inevitable. Another loss or at least a unnecessarily close game. Damn I can't handle watching Gore slam into the line for 1.5 yds on first down any more. Essentially wasting a down. Edited January 7, 2020 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Josh Allen's fumble needs to be on this list I thought it was a real momentum killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Not true. He is a solid player but he's not that great in coverage and he actually didn't make that many game changing plays this year. He is a fine weak side linebacker but the need a much better attacking linebacker to replace Lorax. Yeah, but you seem to be down on most players. Milano made a ton of big plays this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, MJS said: Yeah, but you seem to be down on most players. Milano made a ton of big plays this year. Agree. However, that is who he is, a playmaker, and a playmaker makes plays. He misses a bunch of plays, too, which a lot of fans seem to gloss over. Because he is who he is, and was right there, he has GOT to make that tackle and he didn't. That's exactly the kind of play that makes him good to very good and he blew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, LeGOATski said: 1st and 10 on the 43 in OT. Those two Bills seal their blocks and Allen is still running down the sideline. Game over. That was 100% in the Bills' control. Jeez. This is going to bother me for a long time. Perfect play design. The game should have been over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Agree. However, that is who he is, a playmaker, and a playmaker makes plays. He misses a bunch of plays, too, which a lot of fans seem to gloss over. Because he is who he is, and was right there, he has GOT to make that tackle and he didn't. That's exactly the kind of play that makes him good to very good and he blew it. Yes. He missed that play. Should have made it. He deserves criticism for that play. Just now, QB Bills said: Jeez. This is going to bother me for a long time. Perfect play design. The game should have been over here. It's like they had their eyes closed. Or like they had been paid off to miss the block. I just can't fathom how they didn't see him. How does a defender run through three blockers without being touched? Without even getting a reaction from them? And to top it all off, the defender led with his helmet and initiated contact. Should have been a penalty. Just so much wrong with this play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Josh Allen's fumble needs to be on this list I thought it was a real momentum killer It of course was but it was early in the 3rd......these other ones were daggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: It of course was but it was early in the 3rd......these other ones were daggers IIRC it was the second play of the fourth quarter and they kicked a FG off it, which made it 16-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Josh Allen's fumble needs to be on this list I thought it was a real momentum killer guy was asked to pass 46 times and run a bunch more. 1 turnover is actually phenomenal ball protection given the burden placed on him. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Chaos said: guy was asked to pass 46 times and run a bunch more. 1 turnover is actually phenomenal ball protection given the burden placed on him. There were a couple passes that probably should have been intercepted, but we're dropped. And he had that near fumble where luckily his knee was down. Also, given that we played extra time in overtime, 46 passes isn't really that many. Know what his pass attempts were by the end of the 4th? Edited January 7, 2020 by MJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 hours ago, njbuff said: Worst missed blocked in Bills history. But Knox is young and is a heck of a blocking TE. Hopefully, he like the rest of the team, learns from this and advance forward. I'm shocked there isn't some funny meme/gif on the 3 stooges all missing #41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Magox said: The whiffed block/missed assignment by Knox on the run by Allen that would have surely got the Bills into field goal range to win the game. That's a running play. They were passing all game. That's what done them in. /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Glad most folks are agreeing on the missed block. There's also the missed helmet-to-helmet that should have been called on Cunningham on that play, so it's actually a two-fer. That 15-yard penalty would have put us in FG range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Magox said: The whiffed block/missed assignment by Knox on the run by Allen that would have surely got the Bills into field goal range to win the game. And we really ran that play well all season long too. Allen probably scored. He would have had 2 more lineman in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 How about this missed opportunity? 8 hours ago, Magox said: The whiffed block/missed assignment by Knox on the run by Allen that would have surely got the Bills into field goal range to win the game. God... and it clearly hurt Allen. Wonder if he was concussed on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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