LABILLBACKER Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 hours ago, dneveu said: Thats a lot of dough dude... Cooper getting 20m a year seems a bit scary when you remember the drops and inconsistencies. Ngakoue is going to get paid really really well. Armstead i guess it depends what he gets paid - he was a part of a beast D-line so... did the lightswitch go on and make him a double digit sack guy? or is he closer to the 3 from the last 4 years? Yes its going to be costly. Ngakoue replacing Murphy is a no brainer and my top hope. Cooper is not exactly without some issues but there's no way I'm spending money on aging guys like Green or Sanders. Maybe we land an amazing wr in round 1 or 2. We're long overdue there. You're right Jerry probably plays one more year only because of that contract. Armstead as a last resort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 17 hours ago, Whitey13 said: We barely use DiMarco, why would we need a different FB? So we could really use one like the Niners and Saints, who have much better offenses than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 13 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: 1. Jordan Phillips 2. Ysnnick Ngakoue 3. AJ Green 4. Find a RB#2 somewhere That is what I would target. My guess is Phillips will be too expensive. I want a veteran WR and 4 front 7 players and a swing OT in the first 5 rounds. Can't see how Phillips is not retained. He's bought into the process and has balled out while showing mentorship for Oliver. The team loves that guy. Ngakoue would be a nice get. Pass on Green, rather go after Cooper if you're gonna pay big bucks (I'd top out at 15 per). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 16 hours ago, Dopey said: I like our core and would take a conservative approach. Limit our "splash" signings and build quality depth to what we already have through FA. WR-Robby Anderson. I like his game. He's 6'3" with good speed and has played well, considering the Jets are a mess. He would be a great compliment to Brown and Cole. Don't think he would be very expensive. I would also draft a WR. RB- Melvin Gordon wants too much $ and I don't see Arizona letting Kenyon Drake leave. I wait for someone to be let go from other teams. Maybe Arizona let's Davis Johnson go or trade him. If so, I go after him. I would even entertain Adrian Peterson, if the Skins let him go. I would also draft a RB. Singletary along with Johnson or Peterson would work out nicely. OLB- I like Jamie Collins from NE. He may be considered a "splash" signing. 7 sacks, 3 ints and 3 forced fumbles and a defensive TD. He would solidify our LB corp. Also draft a LB for depth. If we can't get Collins, I would go after Van Noy at DE. I believe it's been reported he was asking for 10 mil per, reasonable. Outside of Chandler Jones who was traded BTW what NE player has done anything on another team once they reached Free Agency? Brown, Solder, Amendola, Butler. You'd have to go all the way back to Wes Welker and he needed another elite QB to be productive. Want nothing to do with Van Noy or Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 AJ Green didn’t play at all this year, it’s obvious he did that in an attempt to protect his value. If teams saw 2019 AJ they wouldn’t be willing to spend real money on him in FA, I said it when he kept postponing his return. I’m sticking by it, he is toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 31 minutes ago, CommonCents said: AJ Green didn’t play at all this year, it’s obvious he did that in an attempt to protect his value. If teams saw 2019 AJ they wouldn’t be willing to spend real money on him in FA, I said it when he kept postponing his return. I’m sticking by it, he is toast. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Can't see how Phillips is not retained. He's bought into the process and has balled out while showing mentorship for Oliver. The team loves that guy. Ngakoue would be a nice get. Pass on Green, rather go after Cooper if you're gonna pay big bucks (I'd top out at 15 per). Because some team will overpay for him. I would bring him back but it takes two to make an agreement. They just invested #6 pick on the same position so I doubt they will make Phillips a top 10 paid DT. If he would settle for less money that would be fine. I would prefer to use cap space to extend Dawkins who is a serviceable LT, and a veteran WR. If they can get an all world edge player like Ngakoue then I would break the bank for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 57 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Because some team will overpay for him. I would bring him back but it takes two to make an agreement. They just invested #6 pick on the same position so I doubt they will make Phillips a top 10 paid DT. If he would settle for less money that would be fine. I would prefer to use cap space to extend Dawkins who is a serviceable LT, and a veteran WR. If they can get an all world edge player like Ngakoue then I would break the bank for him. #9 pick but the rest of your point is dead on. I think they will try with Phillips but the Bills will have a number in their heads and they will not go past it. If he wants to stay here where he has gone from almighty bust to big success then he will need to accept a little under his value on the open market. Ball is likely in his court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Hunter Henry Matthew Judon Emmanuel Ogbah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Matthew Judon - he would be my top FA target. The Bills need someone to replace Lorenzo Alexander who plays that jack knife sort of role. Can play vs the run, drop back in coverage and rush the passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/30/2019 at 2:00 AM, Dr.Sack said: I want Miami’s WR Davante Parker. He tore up Gilmore. mans he had his way with Our DBs as well. I’d take him in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Ngakoue (DE from Jags) ... replace Shaq, cut Hughes (for cash) Judon (LB from Ravens) ... replace Zo Conklin (OT from Titans) .. move Ford to Guard, cut Ty No fan of AJ Green ... too old and broken down ... don't think Robbie Anderson's background fits "the process" .. thinking draft for WR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Now after you’ve selected your FA, Draft: https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-draft-machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/30/2019 at 6:42 AM, Whitey13 said: We barely use DiMarco, why would we need a different FB? Because they always look so good and versatile on other teams Then they come here and everyone wants them cut Time for a new whipping boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) No way Judon is getting out of Baltimore and even if he does I am wary about Baltimore pass rushers. Same as New England offensive linemen. The Ravens just always seem to scheme opportunities for their pass rushers. I know Za'Darius Smith has gone on and had a career year with Green Bay as a FA this year, but I think back to the likes of Pernell McPhee and Paul Kruger who had big years in that scheme and then signed big FA deals with Chicago and Cleveland respectively and never hit the same heights. They are very good at not switching schemes, knowing how they play and drafting guys who fit that perfectly. But those guys don't often have the same success elsewhere. New England does the same with linemen if you think about Nate Solder and Trent Brown for example in recent years who have played okay for their new teams (though in Brown's case only after being flipped to RT) but haven't hit the heights they did with the Patriots. EDIT: Just worth saying on Smith too I don't think it is any coincidence that the coordinator who has helped make him so effective in Green Bay traces his routes back to that Ravens defense. Pettine knows that scheme and probably still has a number of the concepts baked into what he does. Edited December 31, 2019 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 RB Jordan Howard OLB/Edge Bud Dupree DE Yannick Ngakoue Bonus- OLB/Edge Kyler Fackrell Bills FAs- Phillips, Lawson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 33 minutes ago, CSBill said: mans he had his way with Our DBs as well. I’d take him in a heartbeat He signed an extension earlier this year so he won't be available. 27 minutes ago, WideRightRevenge said: Ngakoue (DE from Jags) ... replace Shaq, cut Hughes (for cash) Judon (LB from Ravens) ... replace Zo Conklin (OT from Titans) .. move Ford to Guard, cut Ty No fan of AJ Green ... too old and broken down ... don't think Robbie Anderson's background fits "the process" .. thinking draft for WR's. Why cut Ty or Hughes? They're both solid depth. I don't think Spain cost a lot to bring back and he's been solid this season and rather have him in there than Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 18 hours ago, Dkollidas said: WR- Breshad Perriman (TB) DE- Vic Beasley (Atl) OL-BJ Finney (Pit) I want them to go after low risk, big reward free agents. These type of players, combined with good drafting, and re-signing our own in their prime, will be a big key to success and I also believe it’s the way Beane and McDermott want to run the organization. I'd take a chance on Beasley to replace LorAx yet as don't think he'll get a big money deal. Perriman is meh to me. If I'm going for a depth WR I like Geronimo Allison from the Packers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 DE: Ngakoue, Armstead WR: Perriman, Travis Benjamin, Laquon Treadwell CB: Brian Poole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Luka said: DE: Ngakoue, Armstead WR: Perriman, Travis Benjamin, Laquon Treadwell CB: Brian Poole Treadwell has size but nothing else. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 I'd love to see Cooper and Henry in Bills blue in '20, but I can't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Treadwell has size but nothing else. No thanks. I wouldn't be so sure. Plus he'd be a cheap body to bring in and compete during camp. He's buried on the depth chart in Minnesota. Change of scenery might do him some good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Luka said: I wouldn't be so sure. Plus he'd be a cheap body to bring in and compete during camp. He's buried on the depth chart in Minnesota. Change of scenery might do him some good. He had a chance at a fresh start. Vikings released him in August, he worked out for a number of teams (Including the Bills). It appears he didn't "wow" anyone, as the Vikings signed him back in late September. That should tell you something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 17 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yes its going to be costly. Ngakoue replacing Murphy is a no brainer and my top hope. Cooper is not exactly without some issues but there's no way I'm spending money on aging guys like Green or Sanders. Maybe we land an amazing wr in round 1 or 2. We're long overdue there. You're right Jerry probably plays one more year only because of that contract. Armstead as a last resort? Where do you stand on our own free agents in Phillips and Lawson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Green Clowney/Yannick Henry Realistic Options Conklin OT TEN Bradberry CB CAR Drake RB ARI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Christian McCaffrey Luke Kuechly Cooper Kupp TJ Watt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 A lot of people want Amari Cooper. Saw something that said since 2015 he leads the league in drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I’m not sure why Henry is a popular choice. He’s going to get a huge contract. Why give a huge contract to a RB which would make Singletary a back up? We need help in the passing game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, dneveu said: Where do you stand on our own free agents in Phillips and Lawson? Sign them both. But at a reasonable contract based on their projected value. We can't go overboard on these 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Not a FA, but I’d trade a 4th rounder maybe even a 3rd rounder for Fournette who’s on the last year of his rookie deal. He’ll be motivated, is still young, and is only a few years removed from being a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I’m not sure why Henry is a popular choice. He’s going to get a huge contract. Why give a huge contract to a RB which would make Singletary a back up? We need help in the passing game... I like henry - hes made strides. Paying a running back just never seems to work out though. If someone comes around that you like at a mark ingram type of price - I'm for it. Otherwise draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bangarang said: A lot of people want Amari Cooper. Saw something that said since 2015 he leads the league in drops. This is not exactly a real robust FA year for wrs. Cooper does have issues and was inconsistent the 2nd half of this season. We have to find Josh a #1 guy. Maybe Shenault turns into that guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: Not a FA, but I’d trade a 4th rounder maybe even a 3rd rounder for Fournette who’s on the last year of his rookie deal. He’ll be motivated, is still young, and is only a few years removed from being a top 5 pick. Eh - could end up being a hold out situation. I think they pick up the 5th year option and he becomes fairly expensive year 2 unless you can work out an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/30/2019 at 6:14 AM, njbuff said: Jordan Phillips, Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain Somewhat surprised than none made the top 50 list. I'd go with Ngakoue, Henry, and Robby Anderson at WR. I'd prefer a cheaper number 2 type paired with Brown and draft a rookie in 2nd or 3rd round. Would not bother with Green unless he came real cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Eh - could end up being a hold out situation. I think they pick up the 5th year option and he becomes fairly expensive year 2 unless you can work out an extension. I highly doubt they’re gonna pick up his 5th year option when they already voided his guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Jadeveon Clowney AJ Green Carlos Hyde If not that, then I'm looking to deal a pick for Calais Campbell, Von Miller, Everson Griffen, or Chandler Jones. I think they need to address WR and EDGE in both FA and the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Brian Bulaga, RT, Green Bay Jordan Jenkins, LB, NYJ Bud Dupree, DE, Pittsburgh 1. Laviska Shenault, WR 2. Kenny Willekes, DE 3. Stephen Guidry, WR 4. CB 5. LB 6. CB 7. OT UDFA: K, P, RB * Could use another RB to go with Yeldon and Singletary, maybe Wade? Or a free agent? Regardless I think Singletary is an elite back we just need a bruiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Emmanuel Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: This is not exactly a real robust FA year for wrs. Cooper does have issues and was inconsistent the 2nd half of this season. We have to find Josh a #1 guy. Maybe Shenault turns into that guy? Supposedly it’s a very strong WR draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 N'gakoue -DE Costanzo -OT Bradberry - CB Plugs some obvious holes at positions of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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