PromoTheRobot Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) It can only work with :07-:10 seconds remaining in a half with the Bills inside the 10 yard line. Imagine the Bills are down 3, at the opponents 10. A FG would tie the game and send it to OT. There's :08 seconds to play so the Bills line up for the chip shot to tie. But when Corey Bojorquez takes the snap, he stands up and throws a TD pass to the eligible player who breaks off his blocking assignment. Touchdown Bills! The beauty of this play is if the pass is broken up, or dropped, it's only 4th down with time left, so they can try the FG again for real. Edited December 23, 2019 by PromoTheRobot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 This is why Barkley should be holding for kicks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Pretty sure once you go for a fg, you don't get another down. Also, anyone who catches a pass has to be an eligible reciever, meaning that player has to report as eligible and the defense would probably know something was up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Steptide said: Pretty sure once you go for a fg, you don't get another down. Also, anyone who catches a pass has to be an eligible reciever, meaning that player has to report as eligible and the defense would probably know something was up This. Once attempting a FG... even if it's a fake or not and no matter the down it would be a turnover if failed. Edited December 23, 2019 by Do The Reich Thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: This. Once attempting a FG... even if it's a fake or not and no matter the down it would be a turnover if failed. 34 minutes ago, Steptide said: Pretty sure once you go for a fg, you don't get another down. Also, anyone who catches a pass has to be an eligible reciever, meaning that player has to report as eligible and the defense would probably know something was up not true. If they lined up for a fake fg on third down and throw an incomplete pass, it would then be fourth down and you could kick then. this is the reason teams sometimes kick a fg on third down at the end of the game. If something goes wrong, like a bad snap, the holder can just lay on the ball, and attempt again on the next down. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, Steptide said: Pretty sure once you go for a fg, you don't get another down. Also, anyone who catches a pass has to be an eligible reciever, meaning that player has to report as eligible and the defense would probably know something was up 36 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: This. Once attempting a FG... even if it's a fake or not and no matter the down it would be a turnover if failed. That’s only if you actually kick the ball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, Gugny said: This is why Barkley should be holding for kicks. Not always that simple. Specialist practice with each other all day everyday Berkeley is in the QB room, QB meetings quarterback coach , and doesn't have time to be doing that with the specialists as much as Corey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, FireChans said: That’s only if you actually kick the ball. It’s only if you kick the ball and it makes it past the LOS. If a FG is blocked and doesn’t cross the LOS the kicking team can recover and retain possession of the ball. Obviously If it’s 4th down and the kicking team doesn’t advance the block past the first down marker it’s a turnover on downs. If it’s 1st, 2nd or 3rd down then the kicking team retains possession if it recovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Looked at thread title, thought, Danish prince visited by ghost of murdered father. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I wanna see more fake punt throws when stupid Pats line up in all out punt block. Bet Bojorquez can spin it, leak dimarco for the first down. Just for the look on Belichick’s face 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, FluffHead said: not true. If they lined up for a fake fg on third down and throw an incomplete pass, it would then be fourth down and you could kick then. this is the reason teams sometimes kick a fg on third down at the end of the game. If something goes wrong, like a bad snap, the holder can just lay on the ball, and attempt again on the next down. well that's hardly being optimistic 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Looked at thread title, thought, Danish prince visited by ghost of murdered father. and a better mousetrap within that danish thingy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: Looked at thread title, thought, Danish prince visited by ghost of murdered father. Yes! But set against the backdrop of the high fashion European male modeling business a la Zoolander. I call it ‘Glamlet’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: It’s only if you kick the ball and it makes it past the LOS. If a FG is blocked and doesn’t cross the LOS the kicking team can recover and retain possession of the ball. Obviously If it’s 4th down and the kicking team doesn’t advance the block past the first down marker it’s a turnover on downs. If it’s 1st, 2nd or 3rd down then the kicking team retains possession if it recovers. Yes. One of the primary reasons that teams try FGs on 3rd down is that if it's a bad snap the holder can fall on the ball and they can try again. 57 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: It can only work with :07-:10 seconds remaining in a half with the Bills inside the 10 yard line. Imagine the Bills are down 3, at the opponents 10. A FG would tie the game and send it to OT. There's :08 seconds to play so the Bills line up for the chip shot to tie. But when Corey Bojorquez takes the snap, he stands up and throws a TD pass to the eligible player who breaks off his blocking assignment. Touchdown Bills! The beauty of this play is if the pass is broken up, or dropped, it's only 4th down with time left, so they can try the FG again for real. I like it. Let's give it a try! But only the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Belichick is probably roaming these threads looking for ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 After reading this.....I’m now sure that the main reason we lost vs the pats, is because we didn’t run this play. If we would have, we would have won, no question. Imagine doing it back to back times for a TD AND the 2 pt conversion. Maybe we’re saving it for the playoffs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Steptide said: Pretty sure once you go for a fg, you don't get another down. Also, anyone who catches a pass has to be an eligible reciever, meaning that player has to report as eligible and the defense would probably know something was up No you try on 3rd down if the snap is bad a team could throw it away or Neal down if they have a TO and try again. That’s why some do it on 3rd down in case a bad snap hsppens the ZoP idea is utterly nuts to end a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: It can only work with :07-:10 seconds remaining in a half with the Bills inside the 10 yard line. Imagine the Bills are down 3, at the opponents 10. A FG would tie the game and send it to OT. There's :08 seconds to play so the Bills line up for the chip shot to tie. But when Corey Bojorquez takes the snap, he stands up and throws a TD pass to the eligible player who breaks off his blocking assignment. Touchdown Bills! The beauty of this play is if the pass is broken up, or dropped, it's only 4th down with time left, so they can try the FG again for real. how original. I bet Moorman would have made it happen. Are we trying for the biggest LAMP of the year award here? Can I go next?... Imagine, All the people,living living life in peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Nah, run Gore outside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Nah, run Gore outside. Sad thing is that this is not too far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 hours ago, row_33 said: Belichick is probably roaming these threads looking for ideas He doesn't have time for that. That Adams guy has nothing but time.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 And the D would never suspect anything is up lining up to kick on third down ? Gee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Yeah. 8 second left. Game on the line. Turn to Bojo to make a play in the passing game. What could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Steptide said: Pretty sure once you go for a fg, you don't get another down. Also, anyone who catches a pass has to be an eligible reciever, meaning that player has to report as eligible and the defense would probably know something was up Like Dawkins was ? 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: Yeah. 8 second left. Game on the line. Turn to Bojo to make a play in the passing game. What could possibly go wrong? one or two things. can he run like hell? 4 hours ago, FireChans said: That’s only if you actually kick the ball. that as going to be my question thanks FC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Like Dawkins was ? one or two things. can he run like hell? that as going to be my question thanks FC Good to see u big dog! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: It can only work with :07-:10 seconds remaining in a half with the Bills inside the 10 yard line. Imagine the Bills are down 3, at the opponents 10. A FG would tie the game and send it to OT. There's :08 seconds to play so the Bills line up for the chip shot to tie. But when Corey Bojorquez takes the snap, he stands up and throws a TD pass to the eligible player who breaks off his blocking assignment. Touchdown Bills! The beauty of this play is if the pass is broken up, or dropped, it's only 4th down with time left, so they can try the FG again for real. So your bright idea is a fake field goal attempt? You also better hope that the holder gets the pass off and isn't sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Gugny said: This is why Barkley should be holding for kicks. No. Most kickers complains about the lack of synchrony with the holder, and now that they seem (Bojorquez-Hauchska)to have solved the situation you want another change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Steptide said: Pretty sure once you go for a fg, you don't get another down. Also, anyone who catches a pass has to be an eligible reciever, meaning that player has to report as eligible and the defense would probably know something was up I dont think that is true. Once you kick the fg then thats it but if you have a bad exchange ect. you get the 4th down attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Wasn’t Dawson Knox recruited to an SEC school (Ole Miss) as a QB? He’s gotta have a pretty good spaghetti slinger no? Draw something up... TE reverse pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Watkins90 said: So your bright idea is a fake field goal attempt? You also better hope that the holder gets the pass off and isn't sacked. It's a third down fake so an incompletion or sack still gives you 4th down for a real field goal. Hopefully the pass is thrown right at the moment of release by the eligible blocker, say Lee Smith. Someone who won't set of alarm bells being on the field goal team. The trick is to do this when the opponent is convinced the Bills (a conservative team, right?) is settling for the easy tie. It's not just the play, it's the timing and circumstance. Edited December 24, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 18 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: It can only work with :07-:10 seconds remaining in a half with the Bills inside the 10 yard line. Imagine the Bills are down 3, at the opponents 10. A FG would tie the game and send it to OT. There's :08 seconds to play so the Bills line up for the chip shot to tie. But when Corey Bojorquez takes the snap, he stands up and throws a TD pass to the eligible player who breaks off his blocking assignment. Touchdown Bills! The beauty of this play is if the pass is broken up, or dropped, it's only 4th down with time left, so they can try the FG again for real. Bring Ryan Denney off the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 18 hours ago, Dr. Who said: Looked at thread title, thought, Danish prince visited by ghost of murdered father. You’ve watched too many ‘Airplane!’ movies and episodes of ‘Police Squad (in Color)’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 In Tecmo Bowl, I had a 75% chance of fooling the defense on each play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: In Tecmo Bowl, I had a 75% chance of fooling the defense on each play. Put Bo out there as an eligible right tackle? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 hours ago, row_33 said: Put Bo out there as an eligible right tackle? Bo knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/23/2019 at 4:44 PM, Gugny said: This is why Barkley should be holding for kicks. I'm a strong believer that both the holder and the punter should have a reasonably decent arm, too - doesn't seem too much to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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