Wk 15: SUNDAY NITE FOOTBALL! Bills at Steelers 8:20 on NBC PostGame Thread

[PaattMaann]

in the words of Lizzo

 

IM FEEEEELIN GOOD AS HELLLLLLL

[Chandler#81]

1 hour ago, John in Jax said:

Great win, glad they won....but let's be honest, they only won because Pitt had a 4th stringer at QB. Most of the time, the Duck was just throwin' them up, and hoping his guy came down with it.

What a crappy post! I mean, I realize you live in Jax and I know it sucks here, but the Bills don’t suck. 

‘But Lets be honest’, since Josh Allen’s coming out party vs Miami in last seasons’ finale, the Bills are 15-4. FIFTEEN & Four! Count ‘em! Vs Miami, 4-0 Preseason, 10-4 & counting in the current season. Your ‘honesty’ is a sad sack perspective. My honesty?

FACT.

[MDH]

7 hours ago, ALF said:

I'm thankful we did not play against a healthy Big Ben with AB and Bell . We are over due for a break to say the least.

And the Steelers are thankful they didn’t play Kelly, Thurman and Bruce.

 

7 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Tomlin gave the bills more credit in a 3 minute presser than the media did all week and leading up into finally winning. 

 

Tomlin is a class act. He always has been.

 

Edited December 16, 2019 by MDH

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

32 minutes ago, John in Jax said:

Aren't you the same guy who back on Dec. 1 showed us your vast football knowledge by stating that there would be no way in h**l that the Steelers would be favored in this game!? Why, yes, YES you are. LOL

 

And they shouldn't have been. But it's gonna be OK, John. I promise. Just take your L and walk on.

 

[billsfanmiami(oh)]

4 minutes ago, MDH said:

And the Steelers are thankful they didn’t play call Kelly, Thurman and Bruce.

 

Tomlin is a class act. He always has been.

 

Except while he’s trying to trip players during plays.

[Rockinon]

Before the game even started we all knew this was a game that featured two very good defenses. One defense leads the league in sacks and turnovers. The other(Our defense) loves forcing the other team into passing situations and then bringing the heat.  With the Bills up by 7 and a rookie QB trying to win the game for the Steelers, what is the most productive way to win? Do you loosen up the offense and sling the rock against the fiercest pass rush in the league in an attempt to ice the game, or do you depend on the defense by eating as much clock as you can, knowing the other team will have no choice but to pass in order to win the game?

 

I know we all want more production out of our offense, but there is dumb and then there is well.....dumb.

 

BTW, some should go back and re-watch this game. The offense was not playing scared. If you look more closely, you see that Josh dropped back to pass several times in the 1st half. It looked like a clear attempt to set up some running plays. In the second half it was not a run up the gut for a TD, but a 15yd pass to a TE. There were moments when the offense played aggressively, but against a defense this good, you simply don't press your luck too much. You take what the defense gives you. You bide your time, play smart and don't leave yourself open to turnovers. Buffalo played a great defense last week. They played a great defense this week and they'll play another next week. This is about smart football and some folks really need to just step away from the ledge. 

[london_bills]

51 minutes ago, TPS said:

What is impressive about this play is he is looking left the entire time to set it up. 

Exactly what I thought. Scans the field away from Play, steps up and throws a dart. A thing of beauty

Edited December 16, 2019 by london_bills

[Bob in STL]

49 minutes ago, John in Jax said:

LOL. If you think that the Bills would have won that game last night if the Steelers had had Rothlisberger at QB, you're either drunk or high. ?

^ Childish reply.    

[thenorthremembers]

47 minutes ago, x-BillzeBubba said:

so Tj watt takes a full roundhouse swing at JA and misses the ball and and basically punches Josh in the gut...

 

while i doubt he caused Josh much pain...at what point does that type of move become a penalty 

 

It happened more than once.  It appears thats the way the Steelers teach it.

[Solomon Grundy]

9 hours ago, the skycap said:

This offense needs a PLAYMAKER 

Do you trade up in next year's draft and get CeeDee Lamb or do you get one in FA?

[Simon]

20 minutes ago, Rbleyle said:

False narratives?  So my opinion differs from yours and it’s a false narrative?  It’s ugly that I think our defense isn’t perfect and needs some upgrades?  I’d expect more from a moderator to post a threat on the open forum to a person just stating an opinion in which other members have agreed with.  Highly recommend you attack the content of my post, not the poster moderator and quit abusing your positional authority as pathetic as it is. 
 

 

 

I disagreed with several of your post-game thoughts last night but I'm having a hard time finding fault with this one.

I think you accurately pinpointed the two spots where this defense could really use an upgrade and to be publicly threatened for holding that opinion is completely beyond the pale.

 

[nucci]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

C'mon. Singletary put the ball on the ground twice! That's what Gore is there for. He might not get the first down but he won't turn the ball over. That stupid holding penalty that stopped the clock was a bigger killer. They were going to burn off another minute there.

I was wondering why the clock did not restart before the snap. The penalty was declined.  That was big

[Chandler#81]

23 minutes ago, Rbleyle said:

False narratives?  So my opinion differs from yours and it’s a false narrative?  It’s ugly that I think our defense isn’t perfect and needs some upgrades?  I’d expect more from a moderator to post a threat on the open forum to a person just stating an opinion in which other members have agreed with.  Highly recommend you attack the content of my post, not the poster moderator and quit abusing your positional authority as pathetic as it is. 
 

 

I’ve read all of your 174 posts. You’ve come out of the gate proclaiming a holier than thou attitude which rubs everyone here the wrong way. You know this and it’s evident you thrive in it. My task is to weed out trouble-makers, not be your Welcoming Host. There are countless members here who’ve seen it all and built a strong posting reputation -whether positive or not. You will tone down your ‘fact-based analysis’ or you won’t last long. It’s called civility. Employ it.

[TaskerTough]

We’re a couple drops and a few bad throws away from being very, very good. 

 

With the lead, our offensive play calling is conservative - like it’s always been... But i’d argue it’s slightly less conservative than it has been! So like, it’s Bob Dole now, but it was Pat Buchanan for years.

 

 

[nucci]

1 hour ago, John in Jax said:

LOL. If you think that the Bills would have won that game last night if the Steelers had had Rothlisberger at QB, you're either drunk or high. ?

and you're sure he would have had a great game last night?

[RichRiderBills]

I thought we should have put more on Allen. More designed runs. More big throws.

 

I know alot of what we called was based around our defense and the philosophy that Hodges would make mistakes, but I still would have ramped it up.

 

The playcalling escapes me. No boot legs or naked boots. Screen execution still terrible.Got so conservative late. For a WC offense , no short passing game....

 

Allen had 2-3 bad throws the game. 

 

The Gore option was a headscratcher. 

[muppy]

10 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

I love this defense!

 

Let's keep everyone together... We've got the cap space

 

 

Tre White Shaq Lawson and Jordan Phillips PAY EM!!!!!

[Dr. Who]

5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Anyone else think Collinsworth is still walking around his house muttering to his dog that they should throw the ball to Washington?

Collinsworth was talking about how the Steelers might be positioned to go on a playoff run to the Super Bowl -- next play was Tre's first INT.

[london_bills]

5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Anyone else think Collinsworth is still walking around his house muttering to his dog that they should throw the ball to Washington?

Probably still in the booth with Al Micheals drinking whisky

[BillsFan4]

 

 

I think we need to make “ride the lightning” an official Bills song now (watch P.Schrags twitter clip ^ to see what I’m referring to)

 

 

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Edited December 16, 2019 by BillsFan4

[Coach Tuesday]

But also, how in the world does Spain hold on that play?  And how does Milano tackle a guy by his facemask/helmet on that other play??

[LSHMEAB]

This was a huge victory and shouldn't be underestimated because it wasn't the most aesthetic performance. The Bills scored first and that took a whole lot of energy out of that building. They rose to the occasion when needed. I was fully expecting another Bills late season "tough" loss, so I have no shame about a "tough" win.

 

That Duck character is obviously not a great QB, but he's "fine" if you give him time to throw. What I found surprising was their ability to get in his face early and often. That has been missing for part of the season and that is what often leads to turnovers. 

 

Got a feeling we're gonna see Edmunds blitzing a whole lot more going forward. 6'5 250 pound LB who runs a 4.5 coming right at can't be the most pleasant feeling. Probably should be giving that a shot or two next week with Tommy Boy.

[london_bills]

7 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

 

I think we need to make “ride the lightning” an official Bills song now (watch P.Schrags twitter clip ^ to see what I’m referring to)

 

 

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Good album

[BillsFan4]

4 minutes ago, london_bills said:

Good album

One of my favorite.

[stevewin]

10 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

“This is normal now” 

 

HELL. YES. 

That's my favorite post game quote

[stevewin]

9 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Tomlin gave the bills more credit in a 3 minute presser than the media did all week and leading up into finally winning. 

 

Very classy after a tough loss.  Imagine what a petulant mumbling sore child Bellicheat would have been in the same situation - have to wait for next week for that

[Golden*Wheels]

9 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Tomlin gave the bills more credit in a 3 minute presser than the media did all week and leading up into finally winning. 

 

 

Yup. I liked what he said about winning the important moments, something he said they prided themselves on as a franchise. Seemed like pretty high praise.

[Stank_Nasty]

12 minutes ago, Golden*Wheels said:

 

Yup. I liked what he said about winning the important moments, something he said they prided themselves on as a franchise. Seemed like pretty high praise.

4th quarter, tie game, AT HOME, under the lights in prime time. they break out there "secret weapon"(renegade), elite defense ready to roll...…. and they got to meet "4th Quarter Josh" up close and personal!

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Royale with Cheese]

Bill Barnwell just said in his podcast that maybe the Bills are the best team in the AFC East right now?  

[The Wiz]

I gotta say.  I never really had any strong feelings toward Tomlin either way but man did he give the Bills a bunch of credit after last night.  Normally hear a bunch of coach speak but he made me a fan of his.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

52 minutes ago, london_bills said:

Good album

 

I'd prefer the four horsemen.

[John in Jax]

4 hours ago, nucci said:

and you're sure he would have had a great game last night?

LOL. Re Rothlisberger: Would he have had a Great game? Maybe......but certainly he would have been about 10x better than an undrafted, 4th string QB.

 

Cmon man, get real here....Big Ben will be in the Hall of Fame, while Duck Hodges will be an answer to a trivia question in a few years.

Edited December 16, 2019 by John in Jax

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Defensive Recap 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

On 12/16/2019 at 12:36 AM, Warcodered said:

Steelers fan perspective

 

Meth Life Stadium? Lol

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

On 12/16/2019 at 2:33 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oh, Duck, Duck.....

 

https://www.steelers.com/video/hodges-the-ball-didn-t-bounce-our-way

 

"It wasn't that we weren't trying to make plays....we were definitely trying and sometimes the ball didn't bounce our way"

"What are they, 9 and 5 now?  They're a solid defense and they're a good team" (he's trying to give us credit but Man, does he sound Lukewarm..lacking in graciousness and overall comes across to me as kind of clueless) 

 

[He does take some responsibility, say stuff like I didn't execute and I need to play better but overall....well, judge for yourselves]

 

Compare and contrast with Tomlin, who shoots straight and gives us props.  Asked what was supposed to happen on the backend when we scored our go-ahead TD: "They made a Quality play...I'd be remiss if I didn't acknowledge that they executed in that instance...AND OTHERS " (said that last as though it hurt).  Says what led to the turnovers was "quality execution by those guys".  Says we have a really good defense, "we knew that, they confirmed it."

 

https://www.steelers.com/video/tomlin-we-have-to-assume-responsibility

 

 

 

 

 

Mad respect for Tomlin, and Harbaugh last week

[Tcali]

On 12/15/2019 at 9:13 PM, CincyBillsFan said:

 

The offense is NOT a mess.  Check out Cincinnati or the Redskins to see bad offenses.

 

The Bills offense is a work in progress.  It's red zone production is quite good; they've had numerous LONG and CLUTCH TD drives this season.  They do lack consistency but that will be corrected with time. 

 

The Bills played an elite defense tonight on the road and the offense played okay and well enough to WIN.  And when all is said & done that's all that matters.

 

 

 a 'mess' is different in that it looks disorganized.doesnt men they are awful. so i think u misinterpreted

[Franco_92]

On 12/16/2019 at 2:08 PM, John in Jax said:

LOL. Re Rothlisberger: Would he have had a Great game? Maybe......but certainly he would have been about 10x better than an undrafted, 4th string QB.

 

Cmon man, get real here....Big Ben will be in the Hall of Fame, while Duck Hodges will be an answer to a trivia question in a few years.

Ben was horrendous in weeks 1 and 2 before his injury and looks as in shape as Daboll is. We still would have won the game.

[freddyjj]

On 12/16/2019 at 7:39 AM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

We're not that good in offense yet, so why take chances when you have a shut down defense? How is that not obvious?

 

Ben, Rudolph...who's the third stringer?

Promo, they traded Josh Dobbs to Jags after Foles injury and then activated Duck Hodges