billsbackto81 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Pats going old school. Going all the way back to 2002. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Just curious as to why you are even attempting to defend the Cheats on a Bills fan-board? Because it's the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Pats* pulling out all their Greatest Hits. They Must be desperate. Need to check the inflation of the balls too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol they had permission from the Browns have the videographer up there.. The HOME team knew he was there and somehow this fell threw the cracks of communication.. the fact they turned over the video so quickly pretty much makes the story dead.. Except this is how the Pats* have cheated for years. In fact, it's the reason Kraft* had to pay a million dollars, and forfeit and 1st round pick, and sit Brady* for a bunch of games. Besides, don't you think it's odd that the cheaters got permission from the Browns to film the Bengals? Exactly. Cheaters cheat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: well this does change my thinking here. Still the rule is ambiguous 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: and will be destroyed ala 2015 after league says nothing there. Protect the Shield Goodell strikes again Edited December 9, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 50 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: SUUURE he wasn't filming and Kraft did not pay for a Handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 True or not? Legal or not?........... the Patriots just can’t stay away from cheating news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, wppete said: SUUURE he wasn't filming and Kraft did not pay for a Handy. Palm Beach Sheriff was ruled to be illegally videotaping. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Because it's the truth? when it comes to cameras and the cheats: spygate, the 2015 incident, Steve Bellicheat on the sidelines during warm-ups and run through with a note pad = you cannot trust them at all & they lie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Palm Beach Sheriff was ruled to be illegally videotaping. I must of missed that law of physics where if something is ruled impermissible in court it spontaneously ceases to exist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Keep’em coming, that asterisk is going to be the size of the moon when all is said and done. I think all the really crazy stuff will probably come out 10 years after Belicheat and Brady retire. Any time evidence is destroyed you can pretty much assume the worst case scenario. In the Patriots case a lot of evidence has been destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I must of missed that law of physics where if something is ruled impermissible in court it spontaneously ceases to exist. Oh? You also missed the point of my response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) This does sound a little fishy, but on the surface it looks like a case of miscommunication or not enough communication. Timing is so weird though. Kansas City equipment guy apparently sent their stuff to the wrong place yesterday and they almost had to forfeit the game, he said it was his fault. I’m checking bank records on that man though if I’m KC hahahaha.. Now this coming out. Seems to be they haven’t done anything wrong but lots of times in these cases more information starts trickling down. On top of the fact the refs were “against” them last night so maybe they’ve already been punished unofficially Edited December 9, 2019 by Rc2catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I must of missed that law of physics where if something is ruled impermissible in court it spontaneously ceases to exist. He can email you a pdf that explains the whole thing. Send a request with a small donation to mrweo@patriotsdefensefund.org Edited December 9, 2019 by 4merper4mer 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: what is sadder Cheating while good or cheating while sucking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: You know their desperate when they have to cheat the week they play the 1 win Bungles 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: Force the pats to forfeit the game 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: If they could just flame out spectacularly here at the end taking a couple losses losing the division and then get eliminated in the 1st round that'd be just perfect 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Pats* pulling out all their Greatest Hits. They Must be desperate. 1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said: Not surprised, the Pats are struggling. The last time they lost 2 games in a row was 2015. Last time they lost 3? 2002. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Cue the excuses from Patriots fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 What “signals” are they videotaping? Are they videotaping the mouths of the play callers to give to their professional lip readers? Are NFL teams still using hand signals for plays/formations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Sig1Hunter said: What “signals” are they videotaping? Are they videotaping the mouths of the play callers to give to their professional lip readers? Are NFL teams still using hand signals for plays/formations? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbills Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: So that's how they do it!!! Claim that they are filming a "scout", all the while getting the video of the coming opponent's signals. Sure they turned over the footage to the NFL, the footage that they wanted the NFL to review to clear them of wrong doing. Wonder where the hidden camera was located? Hmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The funny thing is, in order to see the lie all the way through, they are going to actually produce a feature about a scout. Sounds absolutely riveting. Lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Any way Dalton’s charity could involve BB in a battery acid dunk tank in early January, in a Minnesota town? There... I fixed it for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Why would the Pats be shooting a feature at a Browns Bengals game? AKA why would the glory franchise of the NFL be shooting an innocent feature at a rust belt game? When the Pats are on a losing streak and the Bengals are the next opponent. When they have a history of this behavior and an MO seen in the quoted post. This stinks to high heaven. And the nervous guy on ESPN trying to excuse it. Ugh. If you believe them after everything, I don't know what to tell you. We win a couple games and we get yelled at for having an easy schedule. They get caught cheating repeatedly and they get all the glory and the excuses, even from millions of opposing fans. When is this nightmare going to end? When will people wake up? Why is everyone so afraid of the truth? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 and who says there has to be tape? Media has access to wifi, they are dumping the video on the cloud, heck it could be consumed almost real time back at the Pats location. it's no different than the people with Ring or NEST doorbells... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: The funny thing is, in order to see the lie all the way through, they are going to actually produce a feature about a scout. Sounds absolutely riveting. Lol. Followed by the documementary on the camera man who filmed the documentary on the scout. Who was, you know, doing his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Cheaters gonna cheat, their history will always be tainted, even more so when they sign OBJ next season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: The funny thing is, in order to see the lie all the way through, they are going to actually produce a feature about a scout. Sounds absolutely riveting. Lol. They’ve been working on this documentary for like 12 years now! When it’s finally released should be a real doozy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Imagine that! Cheating and spying fits their MO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: Why would the Pats be shooting a feature at a Browns Bengals game? AKA why would the glory franchise of the NFL be shooting an innocent feature at a rust belt game? When the Pats are on a losing streak and the Bengals are the next opponent. When they have a history of this behavior and an MO seen in the quoted post. This stinks to high heaven. And the nervous guy on ESPN trying to excuse it. Ugh. If you believe them after everything, I don't know what to tell you. We win a couple games and we get yelled at for having an easy schedule. They get caught cheating repeatedly and they get all the glory and the excuses, even from millions of opposing fans. When is this nightmare going to end? When will people wake up? Why is everyone so afraid of the truth? It absolutely mysrifies me the media and so many in the public (including some "Bills fans") give such reverential treatment to Bellicheat and Brady. They are proven cheating scumbags plain and simple - should be derided and ostracized like Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds - instead they are worshipped. The media actually uses "Patriot** Way" to convey something positive! I feel like I live in some kind of bizarro world sometimes. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sven233 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Obviously I, or any of us, don't know what is on that tape. What makes me interested in this is that the Bengals are said to have the original copy of the tape and turned it over to the NFL. Now, to me anyway, it only stands to reason that the Bengals who confiscated the original tape would have watched it and know what is exactly on there. If there was nothing obvious to question, would they have turned it over to the NFL? Even if they were required to do that, why be so short with the statement basically saying there is no statement and that the NFL is investigating? They could have dismissed it all together saying it is no big deal. I'm wondering if they know what is on the tape is more than what is being reported on and therefore they are being very careful in what they are saying until the NFL says something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Remember this for earlier in the year? NE is scum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, sven233 said: Obviously I, or any of us, don't know what is on that tape. What makes me interested in this is that the Bengals are said to have the original copy of the tape and turned it over to the NFL. Now, to me anyway, it only stands to reason that the Bengals who confiscated the original tape would have watched it and know what is exactly on there. If there was nothing obvious to question, would they have turned it over to the NFL? Even if they were required to do that, why be so short with the statement basically saying there is no statement and that the NFL is investigating? They could have dismissed it all together saying it is no big deal. I'm wondering if they know what is on the tape is more than what is being reported on and therefore they are being very careful in what they are saying until the NFL says something. And why didn’t they clear it with the Bengals and the league before the game? I’m sure it was just an innocent oversight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, wppete said: Remember this for earlier in the year? NE is scum. They just can’t stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scott7975 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: sorry I don’t think this one is cheating. I have watched Years of tape on teams showing play, down and distance and any signals from Sidelines doing it in a game you are actively participating in (spygate) is a different story. from what I read about the rules that is ONLY in games you are currently playing in. Quote NFL's no-video rule The "Game Operations Manual" states that "no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game." The manual states that "all video shooting locations must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead." NFL security officials confiscated a camera and videotape from a New England video assistant on the Patriots' sideline when it was suspected he was recording the Jets' defensive signals. Taping any signals is prohibited. Scouts funnel these observations to their teams' offensive coaching staffs, hoping to link the opponents' defensive signals to specific blitzes, fronts and coverages. It's all legal under NFL rules, with one stipulation: absolutely no video recordings allowed. https://www.espn.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3017542 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, sven233 said: Obviously I, or any of us, don't know what is on that tape. What makes me interested in this is that the Bengals are said to have the original copy of the tape and turned it over to the NFL. Now, to me anyway, it only stands to reason that the Bengals who confiscated the original tape would have watched it and know what is exactly on there. If there was nothing obvious to question, would they have turned it over to the NFL? Even if they were required to do that, why be so short with the statement basically saying there is no statement and that the NFL is investigating? They could have dismissed it all together saying it is no big deal. I'm wondering if they know what is on the tape is more than what is being reported on and therefore they are being very careful in what they are saying until the NFL says something. there are reports out there from “sources” that have seen the video that there is video of the signals on Bengals Sideline 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: yep caught again 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3017542 yep and not one thing in their from a credentialed video person from Press Box. See the ambiguity that Patriots are playing in here. Pats Fans reaction to be in another cheating scandal https://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/threads/wtf-is-this-pats-accused-of-videotaping-cinci.1150837/page-5 Edited December 9, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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