atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: You know their desperate when they have to cheat the week they play the 1 win Bungles This was my thought. like seriously? The Bengals? I can’t wait to watch the ‘kick the Pats butt’ tour to officially begin. Teams are going to love beating the Pats and running up the score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: we cant talk any more You can't lump us in with them, our shenanigans are cheeky and fun, their shenanigans are cruel and tragic. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: That is a good find by Neal there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 this team has been cheating since BB got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFlamesGo Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It is legal to scout teams signals, tendencies, etc. It is not legal to to record, videotape, or use any technology to do so. That’s the difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Lol they had permission from the Browns have the videographer up there.. The HOME team knew he was there and somehow this fell threw the cracks of communication.. the fact they turned over the video so quickly pretty much makes the story dead.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Warcodered said: You can't lump us in with them, our shenanigans are cheeky and fun, their shenanigans are cruel and tragic. Eeeeeeeeeevil shenanigans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 55 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: You know their desperate when they have to cheat the week they play the 1 win Bungles Beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Eeeeeeeeeevil shenanigans I swear I am going to pistol whip the next person who says shenanigans! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: not defending them. Pointing out that the NFL rules on this situation is well not defined. A lot of ambiguity in their rules Of course there is. BB LIVES in the areas of ambiguity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s obviously the part of videotaping the signals How is it possible teams are still using hand signals?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, Warcodered said: You can't lump us in with them, our shenanigans are cheeky and fun, their shenanigans are cruel and tragic. Evil shenanigans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It is legal to scout teams signals, tendencies, etc. It is not legal to to record, videotape, or use any technology to do so. That’s the difference. Or turning it into a Bletchley Park operation that employed multiple people, databases, special communications, etc. Excerpt from Wikipedia: 2015 ESPN report[edit] In a report for ESPN, Don Van Natta Jr. and Seth Wickersham contend that commissioner Roger Goodell's handling of Deflategate was influenced by his hasty and incomplete handling of the Spygate incident.[4] Van Natta Jr. and Wickersham argue that the true extent of the Spygate scandal was covered up by Goodell and the National Football League in order to protect the image of the NFL and as a favor to New England Patriots' owner Robert Kraft, who was in part responsible for Goodell's promotion to commissioner.[4] The report alleges a highly complex system in which opposing teams' signals were recorded, decoded, and relayed to Patriots coaches and players on the field during games spanning at least 40 games between 2000 and 2007.[4]. This system also included a personal assistant to Bellichick who had a photographic memory and had the official title "Football Research Director", the only person with such a title in the NFL, he told congress stories about sneaking behind opponents benches and filming their huddles. According to the article a scout team would go out to future Patriot opponents and film signs and plays. They would then make a spreadsheet of all the signs and corresponding plays, Patriot staffers would then hand off the spreadsheets to the "football Research Director" who would match signals to the plays. The Patriots would also sometimes bring in former players of the team they were playing ask them if they accurately had recorded the signals, they would later cut the player.[4] The article goes on to quote a former Patriots assistant as saying "things got out of control," in reference to the entire system of covert taping and signal decoding. 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How is it possible teams are still using hand signals?? Maybe to communicate within the 15 seconds of the play clock when the radio comm goes silent? Edited December 9, 2019 by JESSEFEFFER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol they had permission from the Browns have the videographer up there.. The HOME team knew he was there and somehow this fell threw the cracks of communication.. the fact they turned over the video so quickly pretty much makes the story dead.. I'm sure they turned over everything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Ahhhhh, the Pats******, those dastardly, dastardly Pats******. It's bad enough you will be facing the worst team in the NFL, with only one victory to their name this season, but you have to video tape play calls the week before you face them to get a leg up on them? Pretty pathetic actually. This is how Tommy Boy is going out though, win it all or get caught cheating while trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Already been solved I guess. Again just pointing out what I am reading in the rules. says can’t tape from Stands, Sidelines, etc. says nothing about Press Box. also says nothing about what they can or cannot Do in the two week scout window The Press Box is not a stand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, JESSEFEFFER said: Maybe to communicate within the 15 seconds of the play clock when the radio comm goes silent? That seems not too bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Mark Vader said: The Press Box is not a stand? according to Rules Nope. They likely were cheating but you are allowed to video out of the press box. NFL really needs to clean their rules up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 There goes another couple draft picks and Kraft's Asian Massage Parlor $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: I'm sure they turned over everything.... I mean, if they SAY they did, who are we to question??? It MUST be true! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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