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Which Players Should be Suspended?  

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  1. 1. After Garrett's late hit in Rudolph, who should get suspended?

  2. 2. What should the length of the suspension be for Garrett?

    • 1 game
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    • 3 games
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    • Rest of This Season
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    • Indefinite - there's no place for that
      57

  3. 3. What should the length of the suspension be for Pouncey


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Kirby Jackson
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Garrett - Season Pouncey - 1 game for the kick (even though he did the right thing)

london_bills
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As a further punishment he gets traded to Cleveland. Oh wait.. 

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This just in from the NFL:   Jerry Hughes will be suspended for 2 games due to Myles Garrett's helmet swinging incident.

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6 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

The NFL is so bizarre and unpredictable with stuff like this.

 

I am going to say four games. It should be the rest of the season. They will screw it up some way. There is zero excuse for it, and it really could have injured Rudolph badly.

 

What say you?

If he played for Cheaters maybe four games but since he plays for someone else could see it as much as 16 games or life

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31 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

Hopefully forever any trouble the Browns can face I will happily watch.

I've never flipped on a team so quickly as the Browns were always a lovable loser type team.  I could always say, "well, JP and EJ were horrible first round picks but at least they weren't Couch, Quinn, Weeden, or Manziel."  We had "wide right" and "forward pass" but at least it wasn't at home to the same team like "the drive" and "the fumble."  We've been through some rough decades but we never lost our franchise only to see them win the Super Bowl in another city a couple years later.  Plus, the coach we fired is now the best who ever coached.

 

Now the combination of Mayfield, Landry, Hunt, and OBJ makes them very easy to root against now.

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29 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

You're one of the few posters in this thread making sense.

 

I find the level of "outrage" at this ultimately meaningless incident as really bizarre and kind of humorous.

 

These guys are out here destroying their bodies an turning themselves into brainless zombies all the time, whether you notice it or not.  A little scrap like this is almost harmless in comparison to a 10 year career, just from the brain trauma aspect of it, let alone the abuse to joints, organs, and everything else.

 

 

 

Let's try a little experiment: walk out onto the street and club someone over the head with a football helmet, then get back to us about what happens.

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These suspensions are mostly about PR. This incident happened on a nationally televised game and is being covered fairy heavily by the national press. Therefore, I suspect a relatively stiff suspension for a first time incident, maybe 4 games. This, of course, will be appealed and probably reduced to 2.

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Rest of season ... and I know in the heat of the moment in Garrett's melon this is lost .. but Rudolph also was victim of vicious hit that knocked him unconscious earlier this season.  My point is swinging a helmet at that guy's head is even more out of line.  He's not the best QB, but I've earned even more respect for Rudolph's toughness as he didn't back down and hats off to Pouncey ... that's protecting your brother post altercation .. mad props to him as well.

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Kelly I had the same though - the NFL will find a way to avoid doing the right and obvious thing - they will somehow screw this up.  Hope I’m wrong.

 

Also, the fact that the Browns players, to a man, condemned this, is good for the team long-term.  Kitchens will be fired soon and if they get the next hire right, watch out.  

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5 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

Talk about false equivalency. 

 

Rudolph was the aggressor. 

Garrett was laying on top of him long after he threw the ball and he was trying to get him off. 

14 minutes ago, vincec said:

These suspensions are mostly about PR. This incident happened on a nationally televised game and is being covered fairy heavily by the national press. Therefore, I suspect a relatively stiff suspension for a first time incident, maybe 4 games. This, of course, will be appealed and probably reduced to 2.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

How did I know there'd be Garrett defenders out here today?

 

Way of the world these days.

 

You tried comparing this to hitting a random person walking down the street over the head with a helmet....

 

Rudolph instigated this interaction and voluntarily continued to engage at every point.  

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Just now, Shortchaz said:

You tried comparing this to hitting a random person walking down the street over the head with a helmet....

 

Rudolph instigated this interaction and voluntarily continued to engage at every point.  

 

Horrible post. See the twitter link above for instances of Garrett's thuggery THIS SEASON.

 

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8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Garrett was laying on top of him long after he threw the ball and he was trying to get him off. 

 

 

 


Early in the year wasn’t he the dude saying he wasn’t going to change his play to fit the nfl rules?

 

hes about to get hit with a lesson 

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This quote, while obviously not apples to apples talking about his multiple fines to start the season, isn’t going to play well with whoever has the decision:

 

“If I’m going to go out there and make some plays," he said, "make a lot of plays and at the backend I might get an unnecessary roughness every three or four games, I don’t want to make it a habit, it’s not something I want to do, but if that’s what happens and I’m still making big plays consistently, I guess that’s my toll.”

In other words, losing a little money isn’t going to change him.

“I’m still going to play football the same way,” he said.

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6 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Am I crazy or was this no worse than the hit Gronk put on Tre White? That was one of the dirtiest hits I've ever seen and no seemed to really care.

 

I think Garrett will be suspended the rest of the season.

I know you took some flack on this one, but while I don’t know about “worse”, the Gronkowski hit on Tre was certainly very dangerous.  Gronkowski at 230lbs hit a guy laying face down on what amounts to padded concrete, with a running start, after the play was long over. Tre said after the play “he could have broken my neck”.  He clearly was hurt after the play and entered concussion protocol. 
 

The NFLs actions on that incident were egregiously soft in the context of the leagues supposed commitment to player safety, and it’s no wonder things escalate later on. 

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In the age of player safety, you have a player rip off another players helmet and then bash him in the head with it. This isnt even a small db, this is one of the largest men in NFL that had the strength to put up 33 reps at the combine. He could have killed him if it hit in the wrong spot. He should be done for the year and have to go in front of a committee panel next year to see if he even plays at all next year and repeat for every year after. Just crazy...

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20 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

Talk about false equivalency. 

 

Rudolph was the aggressor. 

Rudolph was the aggressor in normal football pile pushing and pulling. Garrett then escalated it to a different level, a level I have never seen. The closest is when Albert Haynesworth stepped on a guys head who had lost his helmet (he received 5 games). The fact that it was a glancing blow was fortunate as he had a Steeler lineman holding him back so he could not get a good swing. This will be minimum 5 games and I would suspect a 6 game suspension which will not be reduced (plenty of time for some real clubbing).

 

As for the baseball analogy with the pitcher throwing toward the head of the batter .. a couple simple differences 1) The batter is wearing a helmet. 2) the batter is looking for the ball because pitchers throw the ball toward the area where the batter is standing .. kinda part of the game. A better analogy would be the the batter says something to the catcher that he doesn't like and the catcher gets up, rips off the batter's helmet and clubs the batter with it.

 

 

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Black guy hitting White guy with helmet in the head. No wonder Cleveland police was there. (sarcasm)

 

Truth be told for anyone to hit any guy especially a guy coming off of concussion in the head with a helmet deserves a year suspension. Wonder if Garrett hit Rudolph in the temple. That could have killed him. Anything less than a year then that would set a bad precedent that your helmet can be used as a form of a weapon. 
 

I know it won’t happen but they should fine Freddie Kitchens a game for making lite of what Garrett did to Rudolph. 

 

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Honestly, I wouldn't be that bothered if they banned Myles for life. Even with the mitigating circumstances, his actions are still criminal.

 

That being said, I'm not particularly of the mind that Rudolph didn't deserve it. Rips at a guys helmet on the floor, kicks him in the groin, throws a punch, tries to grab his dick again? He should expect to get ***** up.

 

I'm not sure that the NFL will punish Pouncey for kicking a man on the floor either.

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7 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Am I crazy or was this no worse than the hit Gronk put on Tre White? That was one of the dirtiest hits I've ever seen and no seemed to really care.

 

I think Garrett will be suspended the rest of the season.

Yeah, the outrage around the league is funny considering no one cared much about the Gronk hit. I guess that’s privilege you get being the big dumb funny guy on the Pats. That still disgusts me. Not saying the Garrett thing wasn’t awful, but man. 

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