billsredneck1 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: That he becomes part of the offense (even if just a small part, as I don’t think he’s close to being a game changing guy) , and the team is quickly forced to adjust to life without him after he gets suspended. I’d prefer to work with what we have. He’s been unreliable his entire career, and I don’t like messing with team chemistry. i'm thinking that is all in the past. does he have anything hanging over his head?....now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Yep. Johnny Footballs old running mate out in Hollywood I believe. heck of a talent. Do we want that type of personality near the team? Do we??? Does McD and Beane? Does he fit in the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I doubt he knows the playbook. Why is that? Ohh, let me guess this is some stupid weed BS line about to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 He's always good for another chance. I mean, in 1982 he had a good season... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, MJS said: He's always good for another chance. I mean, in 1982 he had a good season... Dude hasn’t had a 50 catch season in five years or something, and people here are getting excited about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Tempting. He seems to have turned it around and this team has the type of discipline he needs to stay motivated. Incentive layden contract . Beane says always looking to improve and he certainly is an upgrade on Foster. So why isn’t Foster dressing? Are we sitting him because he is about to be a trade chip for another WR? How about Foster plus a 2nd/3rd for John Ross as an alternative? Go big or go home. Edited October 23, 2019 by Locomark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) To get a WR of his caliber (if healthy and not-suspended) without having to give up a pick is pretty intriguing. Obviously the culture fit is huge too, but Josh throwing deep to that guy could be deadly... Edited October 23, 2019 by Heitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Nope,Head case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Why is that? Ohh, let me guess this is some stupid weed BS line about to come. Seem a bit touchy and dare I say “paranoid” about weed being insulted ? He just doesn’t make smart decisions. That doesn’t give me much confidence he’d be an expert on the Pats offense as far as giving quality intel is concerned. Edited October 23, 2019 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 He spent to much time in Cleveland, needs to be sterilized 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I think that Gordon is well past his prime. His recent track record on the field is nothing impressive. His off the field track record is not good and he just doesn't seem like a guy that would fit with the current team chemistry. Of course, I didn't think Antonio Brown fit our chemistry/culture either and we kicked the tires there, but he has proven to be far worse of a character than was known at the time. Back to Gordon, I would take a pass and I think that the Bills will too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, msw2112 said: I think that Gordon is well past his prime. His recent track record on the field is nothing impressive. His off the field track record is not good and he just doesn't seem like a guy that would fit with the current team chemistry. Of course, I didn't think Antonio Brown fit our chemistry/culture either and we kicked the tires there, but he has proven to be far worse of a character than was known at the time. Back to Gordon, I would take a pass and I think that the Bills will too. maybe they will...or maybe they'll keep up with the jones and have a weapon....december is when it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Bruffalo said: The Bills tried to get Antonio Brown. Clearly they believe our culture can weather a WR with a past. beanes said he was just messing 5 minutes ago, HOUSE said: He spent to much time in Cleveland, needs to be sterilized drive him through a Delta Sonic with the top down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: maybe they will...or maybe they'll keep up with the jones and have a weapon....december is when it counts. Brown is not a weapon? but yes they should always, and i expect they do, scour the wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: He just doesn’t make smart decisions. That doesn’t give me much confidence he’d be an expert on the Pats offense as far as giving quality intel is concerned. Yeah he failed a some drug tests for weed as a boy with a Sh!t ton of money under a dysfunctional Cleveland FO. He has aged or grown up a bit and went to a team with a real FO and been normal thus far? Prior to that he forced himself to stay in rehab until right. IDK - At the age of 28 he is low/no risk with possible high reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Thanks for this post, Droping him in Fantasy and picking up Sanu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Bruffalo said: The Bills tried to get Antonio Brown. Clearly they believe our culture can weather a WR with a past. "Tried" is a strong word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Cancer. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: That he becomes part of the offense (even if just a small part, as I don’t think he’s close to being a game changing guy) , and the team is quickly forced to adjust to life without him after he gets suspended. I’d prefer to work with what we have. He’s been unreliable his entire career, and I don’t like messing with team chemistry. If our teams that delicate it wasn’t working in the first place 37 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Dude hasn’t had a 50 catch season in five years or something, and people here are getting excited about him. Lucky we don’t need him to catch the ball 50 times! 27 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I think that Gordon is well past his prime. His recent track record on the field is nothing impressive. His off the field track record is not good and he just doesn't seem like a guy that would fit with the current team chemistry. Of course, I didn't think Antonio Brown fit our chemistry/culture either and we kicked the tires there, but he has proven to be far worse of a character than was known at the time. Back to Gordon, I would take a pass and I think that the Bills will too. Last year he was 18 yards a catch and put up 40 catches in 11 games joining a team mid season. that’s actually impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) I would not touch this. If the Pats are dumping him then there is a serious problem. All the Pats care about is winning Super Bowls. They don't care how and they don't care what people thin or say about the how. Gordon is extremely talented and could only help them win a SB. Seems like he has a big issue that nobody knows about. Edited October 23, 2019 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, NoSaint said: If our teams that delicate it wasn’t working in the first place Lucky we don’t need him to catch the ball 50 times! Last year he was 18 yards a catch and put up 40 catches in 11 games joining a team mid season. that’s actually impressive I just don’t think 40 catches in 11 games with Brady is that great for a guy with Gordon’s ability. Those 40 catches were also his best season in years. Assessing Gordon depends upon ones opinion of Brady. I see Brady as a great QB with below average outside WR’s for the past few seasons. Gordon is a guy who most likely becomes a nobody elsewhere. With that said, other people around TBD are wrongly convinced that Brady is washed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I can see him landing in Kansas City or New Orleans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassHog Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 We should sign him just for intel. We've got so much cap space left, why not take a chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, SirAndrew said: I just don’t think 40 catches in 11 games with Brady is that great for a guy with Gordon’s ability. Those 40 catches were also his best season in years. Assessing Gordon depends upon ones opinion of Brady. I see Brady as a great QB with below average outside WR’s for the past few seasons. Gordon is a guy who most likely becomes a nobody elsewhere. With that said, other people around TBD are wrongly convinced that Brady is washed up. to tell the whole story they were his best season since the last time he played a season though. and 40 in 11 translates to just shy of 60, for just shy of 1100 yards while leading the league in ypc if you extrapolate to a full season. And ignore that he joined the team mid season (to address all the concerns about chemistry joining a team mid season) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: yeah they traded for Sanu and have Neal coming back from IR. Josh Gordon is the odd man out. If after due diligence that is all - I might kick the tires - especially if after this year he becomes a FA and you can maybe get a pick out of this. He would give you the speed on the outside with a better catch radius. It may also work out if someone gets hurt around that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, NoSaint said: to tell the whole story they were his best season since the last time he played a season though. and 40 in 11 translates to just shy of 60, for just shy of 1100 yards while leading the league in ypc if you extrapolate to a full season. And ignore that he joined the team mid season (to address all the concerns about chemistry joining a team mid season) He wasn’t bad last year, the issue is that it was his only relevant season outside of 2013. That’s not a guy who the thought of being on the roster excites me. I wouldn’t go crazy if my team signed the guy, I’m just saying that I wouldn’t expect much. Lots of people are talking like he’d be an instant impact player on the Bills, and I can’t see that being so certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Actually, now that I read into the details, it looks like he was just the victim of a numbers game. It was basically him or Wynn and the Pats needed the OL help more than the receiver help with Harry coming off IR. Gordon isn't under contract next season and he's been chronically nicked up this year. I'd definitely kick the tires if I were the Bills. If this is the scenario, the Pats ** must like Neal more than Gordon because they could have left Neal on IR? Edited October 23, 2019 by Manther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Manther said: If this is the scenario, the Pats ** must like Neal more than Gordon because they could have left Neal on IR? They probably want to at least see him play since they used a 1st rd pick on him. To me Sanu is replacing Gordon there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Fool me 20 times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 His explosiveness seems to be gone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: His explosiveness seems to be gone... Juuling chronic will do that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: His explosiveness seems to be gone... so did the narrative on randy moss.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: He isn't the player he was. That's okay, I'm not expecting a true #1 receiver at this point in the season. If he's an upgrade on Duke Williams I'll still kick the tires. I don't see a downside. Edited October 24, 2019 by HappyDays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I would be leary of a move like this. The Pats don't just dump talented players for nothing while using resources to grab someone else. They didn't have to put him on IR if there was going to be a worry that he could come back and they would have to chose him or someone else. I would think theres a chance he is facing some discipline or isn't what he used to be... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: He wasn’t bad last year, the issue is that it was his only relevant season outside of 2013. That’s not a guy who the thought of being on the roster excites me. I wouldn’t go crazy if my team signed the guy, I’m just saying that I wouldn’t expect much. Lots of people are talking like he’d be an instant impact player on the Bills, and I can’t see that being so certain. he doesn’t have to be all pro but if you can put him outside, and take some pressure off brown/beasley the whole unit should be better at little to no expense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: he doesn’t have to be all pro but if you can put him outside, and take some pressure off brown/beasley the whole unit should be better at little to no expense Good points, I just don’t know if Gordon’s current production levels are worthy of dealing with his baggage and potential for future transgressions. If Beane is stressed enough about the position to bring in a guy like Gordon, he should have considered drafting a WR earlier. Make a deal for AJ Green, or Keenan Allen, then I’ll be interested. 14 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: I would be leary of a move like this. The Pats don't just dump talented players for nothing while using resources to grab someone else. They didn't have to put him on IR if there was going to be a worry that he could come back and they would have to chose him or someone else. I would think theres a chance he is facing some discipline or isn't what he used to be... Yeah, as usual somethings fishy in Foxboro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: His explosiveness seems to be gone... recovering from a bum knee might help that. he also still has a higher YPC in this down year than anyone on our roster does. Edited October 24, 2019 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 44 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: I can see him landing in Kansas City or New Orleans. Green Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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