PlayoffsPlease Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) After seeing Josh Allen's first performance in pre-season last year, I started a thread title "For the love of God, just name Josh Allen the starter" (Mods later changed thread title). To me Allen is the most likable guy in the NFL, and the most fun to watch. I so much want him to succeed. Yesterday's game troubled me quite a bit. With two weeks to prepare for the worst team in the NFL, Singletary back, a upgraded receiving corp including glue hands Duke Williams and Tyler Kroft active, I expected the offense to be hitting on nearly all cylinders. it appears to me now that Allen and Daboll are simply not a good combination. Daboll seems to be committed to developing Allen to play in the Daboll system rather than developing a system to optimize Allen's considerable physical skills. At this point I am not sure they will be successful together. There is a legitimate school of thought to say that there is a proper way to play NFL QB and Allen needs to learn that. At the same time I think it is legitimate to say that some teams have been successful (Russell Wison) adapting an offense to take advantage of a particular QBs skill set. I am not sure which is right. I will say that I think Daboll's offense would work identically well with Jared Goff as our QB, and I think that leaves a lot of Josh Allen's skill set unused. I don't want to turn Allen into Goff. Edited October 21, 2019 by PlayoffsPlease typo that made some readers lose their minds. 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, PlayoffsPlease said: After seeing Josh Allen's first performance in pre-season last year, I started a thread title "For the love of God, just name Josh Allen the starter" (Mods later changed thread title). To me Allen is the most likable guy in the NFL, and the most fun to watch. I so much want him to succeed. Yesterday's game troubled me quite a bit. With two weeks to prepare for the worst team in the NFL, Singletary back, a upgraded receiving corp including glue hands Duke Williams and Tyler Kroft active, I expected the offense to be hitting on nearly all cylinders. it appears to me now that Allen and Daboll are simply not a good combination. Daboll seems to be committed to developing Allen to play in the Daboll system rather than developing a system to optimize Allen's considerable physical skills. At this point I am not sure they will be successful together. There is a legitimate school of thought to say that there is a proper way to play NFL QB and Allen needs to learn that. At the same time I think it is legitimate to say that some teams have been successful (Russell Williams) adapting an offense to take advantage of a particular QBs skill set. I am not sure which is right. I will say that I think Daboll's offense would work identically well with Jared Goff as our QB, and I think that leaves a lot of Josh Allen's skill set unused. I don't want to turn Allen into Goff. 62%, 2TD, 0INT has you concerned? And I think you mean Russell Wilson. 4 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: After seeing Josh Allen's first performance in pre-season last year, I started a thread title "For the love of God, just name Josh Allen the starter" (Mods later changed thread title). To me Allen is the most likable guy in the NFL, and the most fun to watch. I so much want him to succeed. Yesterday's game troubled me quite a bit. With two weeks to prepare for the worst team in the NFL, Singletary back, a upgraded receiving corp including glue hands Duke Williams and Tyler Kroft active, I expected the offense to be hitting on nearly all cylinders. it appears to me now that Allen and Daboll are simply not a good combination. Daboll seems to be committed to developing Allen to play in the Daboll system rather than developing a system to optimize Allen's considerable physical skills. At this point I am not sure they will be successful together. There is a legitimate school of thought to say that there is a proper way to play NFL QB and Allen needs to learn that. At the same time I think it is legitimate to say that some teams have been successful (Russell Williams) adapting an offense to take advantage of a particular QBs skill set. I am not sure which is right. I will say that I think Daboll's offense would work identically well with Jared Goff as our QB, and I think that leaves a lot of Josh Allen's skill set unused. I don't want to turn Allen into Goff. hmmm....I will have to disagree. At least about having a problem with Josh all the sudden after yesterday. He missed two deep balls, but had a slew of other great throws (the touch pass to duke, the TD to Brown, the brown throw across the field, the throw to knox that was dropped as examples). Josh did not appear to be the problem with the offense. Dropped passes, missed assignments and untimely penalties have continued to stall our offensive drives inside enemy territory and THAT is very concerning. We need to figure out a way to continue to execute, which to be fair we did on the drive that started in 3rd quarter and ended in the 4th. I have very little problems with the way Josh played today, aside from missing those deep throws. WHY CANT HE HIT THOSE????? Is it a total shook confidence thing now? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Josh has played arguably his most complete and mistake free games the last two weeks and now people are concerned?? 6 3 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Philo said: Josh has played arguably his most complete and mistake free games the last two weeks and now people are concerned?? right? The DEFENSE is the reason that game was close. They underperformed mightily. The O put up 24 points. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: After seeing Josh Allen's first performance in pre-season last year, I started a thread title "For the love of God, just name Josh Allen the starter" (Mods later changed thread title). To me Allen is the most likable guy in the NFL, and the most fun to watch. I so much want him to succeed. Yesterday's game troubled me quite a bit. With two weeks to prepare for the worst team in the NFL, Singletary back, a upgraded receiving corp including glue hands Duke Williams and Tyler Kroft active, I expected the offense to be hitting on nearly all cylinders. it appears to me now that Allen and Daboll are simply not a good combination. Daboll seems to be committed to developing Allen to play in the Daboll system rather than developing a system to optimize Allen's considerable physical skills. At this point I am not sure they will be successful together. There is a legitimate school of thought to say that there is a proper way to play NFL QB and Allen needs to learn that. At the same time I think it is legitimate to say that some teams have been successful (Russell Williams) adapting an offense to take advantage of a particular QBs skill set. I am not sure which is right. I will say that I think Daboll's offense would work identically well with Jared Goff as our QB, and I think that leaves a lot of Josh Allen's skill set unused. I don't want to turn Allen into Goff. That's pretty vague. Daboll's calling a lot of designed runs (more than I care for, honestly) and moving the pocket, which seems to be what you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Relax the kids played 17 NFL games. You don't need to put 50 up on a team to win and winning like that gets you a lot of hate. I like how Dabol has barely dipped into the playbook and the Bills are still 5-1. Lets save some stuff for down the stretch when things get tougher. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, PlayoffsPlease said: it appears to me now that Allen and Daboll are simply not a good combination. I dont agree with this. If you just let Allen play to his strengths youd just be seeing Allen from last year. Allen was challenged to develop a short and intermediate passing game for the betterment of himself and the taem. Last year he couldnt even hit a slant. Im all for Dabol right now as Josh continues to become a more complete passer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Could someone drive a golf cart at full speed down the field and have Josh practice throwing to it for the next few days? I looked it up just now, John Elway had 4 fourth-quarter comebacks in his first two years and his stats were way below where Josh is trending, currently. Josh already has 5 comebacks. I'll take what I'm seeing. Edited October 21, 2019 by Seasons1992 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 His play in the Pats* game had me concerned. This week was a little slow out of the gate, but also had some drops/bobbles. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 PATIENCE Allen is and always has been considered a work in progress. I think he has and will continue to improve, not in huge quantum leaps but gradually. Yesterday was HUGE progress, didn't turn the ball over once. He is learning not io take (as many) stupid chances and throws, learning to take care of the ball . I think Dabol is purposely designing plays to stay in the pocket and not run at the first hint of danger and Allens pocket awareness is improving. Allen is going to take some time and should get better with experience. Oh and we are 5-1 and he has, pretty incredibly got his completion % above the "magic" 60%. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: right? The DEFENSE is the reason that game was close. They underperformed mightily. The O put up 24 points. Exactly. Defense played easily their worst game of the year (they were going to have a down game eventually) and the offense was able to bail them out. And that's despite having a few solid drives sputter out due to drops or penalties. Josh is the last person to blame for this being a closer game than anyone anticipated. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Oh, for the love of God... 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Lmao this thread. Russell Williams? Hahahaha This fan base is horrible and why no good coaches or players liked coming here for 20 years 5-1 with a GREEN QB that everybody said HAD TO SIT FOR A YEAR OR 2 Well guess what he was baptized by fire and the growing pains will take years to fully work out.. people complaining about his INTs or hero mindset don't even realize he was NEVER given the time to acclimate to the league. Find out in practice over a few years what works and what doenst But he was thrown into the fire... And now he is learning by trial and error... And people still get mad when he throws that ball across his body for an INT.. well guess what , I saw Favre throw that INT 50 times in his career and he didn't learn til 35 I'm giving Allen time 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I think people want Josh to be a 70% completion type QB and threaten 300 yards consistently. He’s just not that type of QB. Never was never will be most likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'm growing concerned over our inability to beat the blitz. For whatever reason, Allen is not doing a good job of hitting his hot receiver -- I don't know whether that's a result of him not being able to see pressure coming pre-snap, not finding the outlet guy fast enough, poor play design, or what, but it needs to get fixed. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Lmao this thread. Russell Williams? Hahahaha This fan base is horrible and why no good coaches or players liked coming here for 20 years 5-1 with a GREEN QB that everybody said HAD TO SIT FOR A YEAR OR 2 Well guess what he was baptized by fire and the growing pains will take years to fully work out.. people complaining about his INTs or hero mindset don't even realize he was NEVER given the time to acclimate to the league. Find out in practice over a few years what works and what doenst But he was thrown into the fire... And now he is learning by trial and error... And people still get mad when he throws that ball across his body for an INT.. well guess what , I saw Favre throw that INT 50 times in his career and he didn't learn til 35 I'm giving Allen time And they choose a really solid outing to get concerned? Makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: right? The DEFENSE is the reason that game was close. They underperformed mightily. The O put up 24 points. Eh...the defense only allowed 14 points when it really counted. I didn't see the game but I could chalk-up the last TD by the Dols to prevent defense/thinking they had the game in hand being up by 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I feel like people are expecting a perfect product from Josh. He's barely scratching the surface of his potential, last year it was concerns about his completion percentage and that's dramatically improved, give the QB of our 5-1 team credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: Eh...the defense only allowed 14 points when it really counted. I didn't see the game but I could chalk-up the last TD by the Dols to prevent defense/thinking they had the game in hand being up by 10. Actually, they were not very good yesterday - not by their standards. They gave up way too many long, time consuming drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I actually like what they're doing with Allen. I think that how they're developing him will pay dividends down the line. It looks to me like they are trying to rein in his hero ball and turn him into a passer. There will be growing pains but he's young and they're still winning. He and Lamar are both physically gifted but I think Lamar is getting the exact opposite treatment. The Ravens seem to have taken the approach of letting him just play his game. They want to win now and don't seem to be worrying about the future which is not surprising seeing as how there'd been talk of Harbaugh needing to win or he would be out. If Lamar ever loses his ability to make plays with his legs, he'd be unprepared to play QB at a high level. I think the way their developing Allen is to make sure he can succeed if his legs become a non factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: After seeing Josh Allen's first performance in pre-season last year, I started a thread title "For the love of God, just name Josh Allen the starter" (Mods later changed thread title). To me Allen is the most likable guy in the NFL, and the most fun to watch. I so much want him to succeed. Yesterday's game troubled me quite a bit. With two weeks to prepare for the worst team in the NFL, Singletary back, a upgraded receiving corp including glue hands Duke Williams and Tyler Kroft active, I expected the offense to be hitting on nearly all cylinders. it appears to me now that Allen and Daboll are simply not a good combination. Daboll seems to be committed to developing Allen to play in the Daboll system rather than developing a system to optimize Allen's considerable physical skills. At this point I am not sure they will be successful together. There is a legitimate school of thought to say that there is a proper way to play NFL QB and Allen needs to learn that. At the same time I think it is legitimate to say that some teams have been successful (Russell Williams) adapting an offense to take advantage of a particular QBs skill set. I am not sure which is right. I will say that I think Daboll's offense would work identically well with Jared Goff as our QB, and I think that leaves a lot of Josh Allen's skill set unused. I don't want to turn Allen into Goff. I don't know where to start with this. Of all the games Allen has played, to say this is the first time you're concerned about him or the combination of Daboll and Allen is a total head-scratcher for me. Not the Jets game where Allen had 2 picks and 2 fumbles in the first half, 1 of each unambiguously a boneheaded play on his part. Not the Pats game where Allen threw 3 INTs, all of them bone-headed decisions, and decided as Smith put it to "run head first into human beings" and get knocked out; he only completed 46% of his passes for 153 yds and on film, he left quite a few plays on the field. SMH I really ought to merge this as the topic of whether or not Josh Allen will be a successful QB is being flogged thoroughly in several threads, but *cough* I don't want to derail them from such discussion as is taking place, so I'll just leave this out there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 111 QBR...no turnovers #bbfs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I've re-watched the game and I think Allen was just fine. He didn't put up 300, but he did what he was asked to do. He threw behind Beasely early in the game and missed on the two deep balls - outside of that he did well. He didn't have enough pass attempts to put up the huge stats that everyone wants to see without hitting a deep ball. Knox drop alone cost him 4% in his completion percentage and probably 15-20 yards. Beasely didn't come up with a very catchable ball on an out as well - which won't go down as a drop on the stat sheet but most NFL WRs would have come up with it. Would have, could have, should have... I get it - but if both players made those routine plays, his stat line reads 18/26 (69%) for 240, 2 TDs 0 INTs and 32 yards rushing on 4 carries. I'll take that. I'll call it here - next week he'll have his 300 yards passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: His play in the Pats* game had me concerned. This week was a little slow out of the gate, but also had some drops/bobbles. This. Hokie, have you looked at the film yet? Look at Daboll's play calling and the blocking design in the first few series and tell me what you think. For me there's some flashback moments to last year where I wished I could (figuratively, 'cuz he could smash me like a buuuug) grab Daboll by the ears and yell "KISS! KISS damn your eyeballs KISS! (and I'm not talking smoochies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 What game were you watching? Josh was good yesterday. Steady and calm and was almost perfect in the second half. I will take that everyday from our QB after years of wondering which version of Tyrod/Fitz/EJ/Orton/Tuel/Popcorn guy was going to show up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'm sorry, you lost all credibility when your said Russell Williams ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I gotta tell ya. The 4th quarter performances all season, as well as that beautiful 98-yard drive yesterday, have me concerned, too. I tossed and turned last night, horrified that the Bills are a measly 5-1. How dare they only be 2-1 in the division after three games with their only loss being to the defending Super Bowl champions? The two TD passes and zero turnovers yesterday are what really have my gut in knots. If he keeps that crap up, we might actually EARN a spot in the playoffs. We don't want that, do we? 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: This. Hokie, have you looked at the film yet? Look at Daboll's play calling and the blocking design in the first few series and tell me what you think. For me there's some flashback moments to last year where I wish I could (figuratively, 'cuz he could smash me like a buuuug) grab Daboll by the ears and yell "KISS! KISS damn your eyes KISS! (and I'm not talking smoochies) Daboll is a real headscratcher to me. He's GOT to realize up-tempo has worked well for this team, yet he rarely uses it. He makes Singletary disappear single-handedly. I don't understand his thought process most of the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I don't think many Bills fans share this concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: 62%, 2TD, 0INT has you concerned? And I think you mean Russell Wilson. But........other than that....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) wait what? First Time I have been concerned with Josh Allen don't I see you in the shout box complaining constantly about his mistakes? Edited October 21, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: After seeing Josh Allen's first performance in pre-season last year, I started a thread title "For the love of God, just name Josh Allen the starter" (Mods later changed thread title). To me Allen is the most likable guy in the NFL, and the most fun to watch. I so much want him to succeed. Yesterday's game troubled me quite a bit. With two weeks to prepare for the worst team in the NFL, Singletary back, a upgraded receiving corp including glue hands Duke Williams and Tyler Kroft active, I expected the offense to be hitting on nearly all cylinders. it appears to me now that Allen and Daboll are simply not a good combination. Daboll seems to be committed to developing Allen to play in the Daboll system rather than developing a system to optimize Allen's considerable physical skills. At this point I am not sure they will be successful together. There is a legitimate school of thought to say that there is a proper way to play NFL QB and Allen needs to learn that. At the same time I think it is legitimate to say that some teams have been successful (Russell Williams) adapting an offense to take advantage of a particular QBs skill set. I am not sure which is right. I will say that I think Daboll's offense would work identically well with Jared Goff as our QB, and I think that leaves a lot of Josh Allen's skill set unused. I don't want to turn Allen into Goff. Do you not watch the NFL outside of Bills games? I mean no offence, but around the league there is an epidemic of substandard QBing. Combined with how week to week this league has become (anointing someone a future HOFer one week, calling them trash the next) the coveted Franchise Quarterback is few and far between. Long gone are the days where a qb was given YEARS to settle in before a decision can be made about their future but it doesn't change the fact that these guys still need to learn. Im concerned the growing contingent of fans who compare their young QB to the Mahomes type may never be able to enjoy a nfl game again because if thats the expectation- they will no doubt be let down. Your 'favorite' team is 5-1. They are winning WHILE their young QB is developing. At somepoint in the future a decision will need to be made, but there are so many factors at play here these cats calling for a new QB because they have already made up their minds about this one has me embarrassed for them. Im sorry you feel dissapointed Miami wasnt thrashed yesterday.... but this crap about doubting your qb at this juncture in his tenure as the Bills qb is insane. Meanwhile, if next week he lights it up the flip flop will begin and the bandwagon fills back up. I guess i give you credit for having the balls to put this out there given how silly it truly is, but at the same time im worried you dont understand what a over reaction it is and it may just be pure ignorance. The sky is not falling yet. Keep this to the nonsense with the game threads. Your team is 5-1. Id hate to see you when faced with a REAL problem. Edited October 21, 2019 by gobills1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: I actually like what they're doing with Allen. I think that how they're developing him will pay dividends down the line. It looks to me like they are trying to rein in his hero ball and turn him into a passer. There will be growing pains but he's young and they're still winning. He and Lamar are both physically gifted but I think Lamar is getting the exact opposite treatment. The Ravens seem to have taken the approach of letting him just play his game. They want to win now and don't seem to be worrying about the future which is not surprising seeing as how there'd been talk of Harbaugh needing to win or he would be out. If Lamar ever loses his ability to make plays with his legs, he'd be unprepared to play QB at a high level. I think the way their developing Allen is to make sure he can succeed if his legs become a non factor. Everyone, ESPN included, seems to be forgetting the Greg Roman effect with running QBs. That’s making a huge difference in Jackson’s performance running the ball. The kid is gifted, but eventually Romans schemes get figured out. I believe it’s 2-3 years. Lynn found a working game plan in his second game against the Ravens last season. BB will have a gameplan for it as well. I’m curious about how Jackson will perform with a different OC there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Josh is a different QB in the 4th and he is a gamer. Not concerned about anything outside of the deep ball connection. I have faith it will come. It is frustrating, but it will come 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This. Hokie, have you looked at the film yet? Look at Daboll's play calling and the blocking design in the first few series and tell me what you think. For me there's some flashback moments to last year where I wish I could (figuratively, 'cuz he could smash me like a buuuug) grab Daboll by the ears and yell "KISS! KISS damn your eyes KISS! (and I'm not talking smoochies) In the first half I was having flashbacks to 'bad' Roman. I get that motions and gadgets can be handy, but they should never be the meat & potatoes of your plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, gobills1212 said: Do you not watch the NFL outside of Bills games? I mean no offence, but around the league there is an epidemic of substandard QBing. Combined with how week to week this league has become (anointing someone a future HOFer one week, calling them trash the next) the coveted Franchise Quarterback is few and far between. Long gone are the days where a qb was given YEARS to settle in before a decision can be made about their future but it doesn't change the fact that these guys still need to learn. Im concerned the growing contingent of fans who compare their young QB to the Mahomes type may never be able to enjoy a nfl game again because if thats the expectation- they will no doubt be let down. Your 'favorite' team is 5-1. They are winning WHILE their young QB is developing. At somepoint in the future a decision will need to be made, but there are so many factors at play here these cats calling for a new QB because they have already made up their minds about this one has me embarrassed for them. Im sorry you feel dissapointed Miami wasnt thrashed yesterday.... but this crap about doubting your qb is insane. Meanwhile, if next week he lights it up the flip flop will begin and the bandwagon fills back up. I guess i give you credit for having the balls to put this out there given how silly it truly is, but at the same time im worried you dont understand what a over reaction it is and it may just be pure ignorance. The sky is not falling yet. Keep this to the nonsense with the game threads. Your team is 5-1. Id hate to see you when faced with a REAL problem. Yeah, but Rodgers has a perfect game yesterday and that’s josh’s new standard. ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: This fan base is horrible and why no good coaches or players liked coming here for 20 years Could you offer some examples of this? Edited October 21, 2019 by Binghamton Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, DasNootz said: I've re-watched the game and I think Allen was just fine. He didn't put up 300, but he did what he was asked to do. He threw behind Beasely early in the game and missed on the two deep balls - outside of that he did well. He didn't have enough pass attempts to put up the huge stats that everyone wants to see without hitting a deep ball. Knox drop alone cost him 4% in his completion percentage and probably 15-20 yards. Beasely didn't come up with a very catchable ball on an out as well - which won't go down as a drop on the stat sheet but most NFL WRs would have come up with it. Would have, could have, should have... I get it - but if both players made those routine plays, his stat line reads 18/26 (69%) for 240, 2 TDs 0 INTs and 32 yards rushing on 4 carries. I'll take that. I'll call it here - next week he'll have his 300 yards passing. Eh, I'm somewhat in the middle here. On the first few series, he was NOT taking what the D was giving him at times. He was making yards, but he was running himself at times when there was an option. Singletary was apparently wearing a Cloak of Invisibility. I have a separate thread about that throw to Beasley. It's more nuanced I think than "threw behind him". I wouldn't say Allen was just fine, but he also didn't pull any boneheaded moves. He didn't try to truck people when he ran, he was moderately smart. He took care of the football and didn't throw it or fumble it away. He "leveled up" when he needed to in the second half and won us the game. And yes, you're right, the lack of initial focus was across the whole team. People seem to forget that even great teams and great QB win stinkers and have bad halves. Not saying this group is either, but the point was - we regrouped and won, and that's what good and great teams do while bad teams fade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) I asked this (but with so many damn threads to read about the game) Did Miami back off the heave blitz packages? I think once that slowed the Blitz or Dabol and co adjusted the game got much better and fewer drive killing penalties Edited October 21, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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