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Joe B. All-22 from Titans game: Dawkins and Hughes shine

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Above all else, Dawkins is playing with confidence, and you can see it in the way he navigates his kick-slide. The Bills have been trusting Dawkins in one-on-one matchups. The way he mirrors his opponents in pass blocking and uses his quick feet to handle a change of direction has made him a difficult player to beat one-on-one. As a run blocker, Dawkins has the athleticism to get out in front of his assignment and the strength to turn the player in the direction of the play. He also has shown a rock-solid ability to get into the second-level to spring an even bigger gain. Dawkins’ performance against the Titans was one of his best.



Hughes encompasses the team defense mantra better than any other Bills player. Regardless of matchup, Hughes is routinely getting into the pocket and affecting the quarterback’s ability to stand in his spot. His pressures have created multiple sacks for his teammates and plenty of incompletions along the way. Without him rushing off the right edge, this Bills’ front would look vastly different — as would their overall efficiency in getting stops.

Above that, it’s his ability against the run that so often gets overlooked.

Also - Quinton Spain no bueno and Darryl Johnson steps up 

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Funny I heard that everyone the all 22 said was good was bad on here. I knew those guys were good and people here said I was wrong, and I said just wait until the all 22. And here we are. I was right! Those guys were actually good! I’m just here to write this sanctimonious post and let you know I was right and you were less right. 

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Interesting. Dawkins was singled out by Pats* players for “ running his mouth “ in the week leading up to the game, as well as his performance in the game. It’s certainly possible he bounced back this week, but needs to be more consistent. 

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1 minute ago, jkeerie said:

Joe B alludes to "a position that could be in line for a new starter".  Does anyone know who and what he was referring to?

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 I have Spain graded out even worse in Weeks 4 and 5 than in Weeks 1 and 2. The injury complications likely mean that Spain will hang on to his job until the Bills get close to full health. But, once they do, the Bills could look to make a change if Spain’s performances don’t improve fast enough.

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Am I the only one who finds this grading thing kind of arbitrary and unsatisfying?

 

I'd love to hear about Bates at RT and Feliciano at C. 

Also like to understand what went into Brown and Beas play to grade them as he did. 

 

I read the "how we grade" part and mostly what I get from it is his subjective opinion.

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I thought Jordan Phillips had his best game yet.

 

I also thought Shaq Lawson had a great game even though we didn't hear his name called much.    I saw him triple teamed at one time.  In fact, I think the Titans paid more attention to Shaq than Phillips and that allowed Phillips to excel in this game.    Phillips was overpowering his opponent constantly when he only had one blocker.   Dude was a bulldozer.

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17 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

But I thought Dawkins sucks? 

 

Dawkins doesn't suck, he's just inconsistent.  A good game here, a bad game there.  That is why he is an average LT at this point, though I hope that changes and he can become an above average LT.

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2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Jerry Hughes is an awesome buffalo Bill. 

 

Has been from day 1.

 

is now. 

 

That is all. 

I did not understand the trade when it happened and disliked it when they resigned him for real money-Jerry has made me happy I was not GM for those two decisions.

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Really thought the talk of moving him to guard was hogwash. Dawkins had a down year playing with a bunch of scrubs on the line. The entire offense had a down year. I knew he'd get back to form and be a good tackle. Excited for him.

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3 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Dawkins doesn't suck, he's just inconsistent.  A good game here, a bad game there.  That is why he is an average LT at this point, though I hope that changes and he can become an above average LT.

 

I was being more facetious, I agree with that assessment of his play. I think he turns in more good than bad games but not by a margin wide enough. He is still fairly young so I think it is possible he showcases improvement.

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There are several on this board I would trust to break down A22 before Joe B. 

 

This article from last week had Spain as one of the top linemen in the NFL through the first 4 weeks-- check out the other names with him on the list.

https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/nfl-offensive-leaders-in-total-points-earned-through-week-4/

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21 minutes ago, CSBill said:

The Spain grade surprises me. Didn't the Bills keep going his way on the last drive on Sunday? I'm not sure I take much stock in that low grade.

 

That series he actually had one of his worst plays of the game on the 1st play where he just missed an assignment with a delayed run blitzer. It has actually been something that has popped up on film against Spain both in the run and pass he seems to struggle with the delayed blitz. He is a big man and when you let him get moving with momentum off the snap he can dominate physically. The adjustment teams have made against him is give him nobody to block and engage with early in the down. Make him stop his feet and then attack him because he doesn't find it easy to get his feet moving again in those scenarios. 

 

That said the sequence that followed that play was a good run by Yeldon between C and RG where Feliciano and Long did a nice job creating a lane and then two good runs to the left by Gore on which Spain had big blocks. The first he and Dawkins ran a kind of offensive line stunt where Dawkins drove inside onto the linebacker and Spain hooked outside and totally walled off the edge rusher. The second play was a bit of a misdirection where they pulled the linemen to the right, and Spain came across and bashed his guy, and then Gore's job was just to be patient and then slip out down the left side. Really nice play call and well executed by the whole line. 

 

Should say again having watched the all22 while sitting by the pool and sipping a beer this morning.... Brian Daboll called a hell of a game on Sunday. Against a good defense he did a really nice job of mixing it up and in the big moments his play calling was excellent. 

 

I thought Daboll had a bad week last week but this was a significant rebound. Didn't love the second attempted QB sneak and I know the penultimate drive was a bit of a damp squib (though more on execution than play calling) but he did a nice job. 

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12 hours ago, r00tabaga said:

That's weird. I heard Dawkins & Hughes suck this year.

 

 

 

 

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Is this what’s going to happen every game?  Dawkins and Hughes never sucked but it’s also silly to not point out if they have bad games (and it’s good to point out when they have good ones).

 

what makes you a good player, especially at positions like LT and QB, is just being insanely consistent. I think Dawkins is far from sucking but he certainly isn’t consistent.  

10 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Does Joe B. know what he's doing? Nothing implied about his grades. Asking for a friend.

Dude, he’s in the “sports media” and he knows better than the coaches!

 

i actually think he’s ok but it’s important to know they don’t have the play call or the player’s assignment on the play.  When there is a blown coverage for example, a corner can look terrible but in reality, they were expecting a S to be over the top.  Media people don’t have access to that information. 

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11 hours ago, Doc said:

I'd eventually like to see an OL of: Dawkins-Feliciano/Spain-Morse-Ford-Bates.

I was just talking about this yesterday with a couple of fellow Bills fans. I think our best 5, and probably most consistent OL, would be Dawkins-Feliciano-Morse-Ford-Bates. One wanted to argue as to why I had Spain on the bench? I told him it's pretty simple, because Feliciano is the better all around OL'man. I think Ford would shine at RG as well. Spain can serve as solid depth in case anything happens to either of the other OG's in the starting lineup. Despite their struggles against the Pats, this OL is CLEARLY two steps above what we put on the field last year. 

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6 minutes ago, H2o said:

I was just talking about this yesterday with a couple of fellow Bills fans. I think our best 5, and probably most consistent OL, would be Dawkins-Feliciano-Morse-Ford-Bates. One wanted to argue as to why I had Spain on the bench? I told him it's pretty simple, because Feliciano is the better all around OL'man. I think Ford would shine at RG as well. Spain can serve as solid depth in case anything happens to either of the other OG's in the starting lineup. Despite their struggles against the Pats, this OL is CLEARLY two steps above what we put on the field last year. 

 

I think Spain has been our most consistent guy through 5 games. Others have had excellent games here and there but he has been the most consistent. There is no argument for starting Cody Ford over him at this point. 

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52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Spain has been our most consistent guy through 5 games. Others have had excellent games here and there but he has been the most consistent. There is no argument for starting Cody Ford over him at this point. 

I'm not saying he's been bad by any means. He has been a quality signing. He and Feliciano probably grade out about even imo. I would start Feliciano over him on the left side because of the mean streak Mongo brings to the line without there being really a drop off. Now, I haven't keyed in on Spain as much. I do know that he has has been solid though. Either way Mongo, or Spain, or whomever it is we have been putting on the field have been upgrades over the tragedy that was the OL last year. 

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