18/39 150 yards 0 TD 1 INT 3.8 ypa - The Day we became the best D in the game

[JerseyBills]

 

That was Tom Brady's statline today... Of course the running attack killed us for over 200 yards or so . Nope , not today. 74 rush yards on 23 attempts for a whopping 3.2 ypc... That's brilliance right there. That's Championship level defense . 

Ya but it's only week 4 , Pat's have started slow in the past. 

Week 1 - 24/36 341 yards 3 TD 0 INT 9.5 ypa

Week 2 - 20/28 264 yards 2 TD 0 INT 9.4 ypa

Week 3 - 28/42 304 yards 2 TD 0 INT 7.6 ypa

Week 4 - 18/39 150 yards 0 TD 1 INT 3.8 ypa

The Bills' defense did its part in the first half by limiting Brady to 9 of 22 for 90 yards and an interception. It was Brady's lowest completion percentage in the first half since he went 7 for 19 in a 27-26 win over Cleveland on Dec. 8, 2013.

 

Allen was awful today but Brady was equally as bad , minus 2 picks , I think it was 2 amazing secondaries battling it out and the QBs were the victims. Our victim just happens to be the GOAT at QB. 

 

This Pats team came in scoring 33 , 43 and 30 points. They're a GREAT offense and we made them look terrible. Defense held them to 1 TD and 1 FG. That is just Amazing , even if it was at Home. 4 weeks in and this D has yet to give up 20 points in a game. 

i truly think they're that good. This defense can take this team on a playoff run. It's year 3 for McD and he has built a Championship level defense and it was on full display today. Absolutely brilliant play.

 

 

 

[atlbillsfan1975]

This D is that good. Edmunds became a big factor today. Loved seeing that. 

The secondary is just that good.

weakest link right now is DE. Johnson might develop into something. If he doesn’t, we know Beane will get that addressed. 

This is Brady’s last season. Between now and when we play them on 12/22, I think a lot more things will become clear. Brady doesn’t have it. Brady’s arm is less than what Fitz’s arm was when he was with the Bills. I hope the entire league goes after him. Brady isn’t who he was and I’m glad our d showed it. 

 

[KD in CA]

Brady's worst ypa in a game he won in his career.  How's that for a gut punch?

[Rocbillsfan1]

The patriots d says hello but yea we’re good.

[Utah John]

Somehow despite Allen's putridity today, the Bills outgained the mighty Pats offense 375 to 224.  

 

The Pats had SEVEN three and outs, one four and out, and one five and out.  

 

I finished the game telling myself I had just watched the two best defenses in the AFC, and possibly in the NFL.  

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

This D is that good. Edmunds became a big factor today. Loved seeing that. 

The secondary is just that good.

weakest link right now is DE. Johnson might develop into something. If he doesn’t, we know Beane will get that addressed. 

This is Brady’s last season. Between now and when we play them on 12/22, I think a lot more things will become clear. Brady doesn’t have it. Brady’s arm is less than what Fitz’s arm was when he was with the Bills. I hope the entire league goes after him. Brady isn’t who he was and I’m glad our d showed it. 

 

 

While I hope you’re correct, it’s one thing to show the blueprint, quite another to execute it.  

 

The 3 best defenses in the league are probably the Bears, Bills and Patriots. 

 

The Pats are going to light up their next 3 opponents.  

[Johnnycage46]

To give up 4 picks...4! And a blocked punt for a TD...to be in a one score game at the end was amazing D.  I love this D.  Let's hope Allen heals up and learns and curbs the mental mistakes. They do that and this is easily playoff team.  And could go relatively deep in the playoffs.

Edited September 30, 2019 by Johnnycage46

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Not to mention the constant pressure made Brady throw it away time after time...sometimes to no one and from inside the tackle box, hmmmm....thanks for nothing zebras!!

[Johnnycage46]

1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Not to mention the constant pressure made Brady throw it away time after time...sometimes to no one and from inside the tackle box, hmmmm....thanks for nothing zebras!!

Alot of funny business with the refs today.  Very inconsistent and biased.  I guess that's the Kraft empire for ya

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

17 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

 

That was Tom Brady's statline today... Of course the running attack killed us for over 200 yards or so . Nope , not today. 74 rush yards on 23 attempts for a whopping 3.2 ypc... That's brilliance right there. That's Championship level defense . 

Ya but it's only week 4 , Pat's have started slow in the past. 

Week 1 - 24/36 341 yards 3 TD 0 INT 9.5 ypa

Week 2 - 20/28 264 yards 2 TD 0 INT 9.4 ypa

Week 3 - 28/42 304 yards 2 TD 0 INT 7.6 ypa

Week 4 - 18/39 150 yards 0 TD 1 INT 3.8 ypa

The Bills' defense did its part in the first half by limiting Brady to 9 of 22 for 90 yards and an interception. It was Brady's lowest completion percentage in the first half since he went 7 for 19 in a 27-26 win over Cleveland on Dec. 8, 2013.

 

Allen was awful today but Brady was equally as bad , minus 2 picks , I think it was 2 amazing secondaries battling it out and the QBs were the victims. Our victim just happens to be the GOAT at QB. 

 

This Pats team came in scoring 33 , 43 and 30 points. They're a GREAT offense and we made them look terrible. Defense held them to 1 TD and 1 FG. That is just Amazing , even if it was at Home. 4 weeks in and this D has yet to give up 20 points in a game. 

i truly think they're that good. This defense can take this team on a playoff run. It's year 3 for McD and he has built a Championship level defense and it was on full display today. Absolutely brilliant play.

 

 

 

 

Not to mention that the Pats’ TD came right before a ridiculous pass to white over Milano, and Milano has perfect coverage and had his arm between the ball and defender (and White still caught it). Without that somewhat miraculous catch, they probably don’t even score an offensive TD today.

[Big Blitz]

We're elite but the best D is in Chicago.  

 

Updated ranking:

 

Bears 

Bills 

Patriots 

Vikings

Panthers

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

The pressure on Brady wasn't anything extraordinary, he just isn't, and never has been, any good under pressure.  Their offense is just designed to mask that.  It's been maddening for decades watching defenses not rattle his ass early and often.  

[NoHuddleKelly12]

If nothing else this game proves we can hang with anyone in this league on any given Sunday, and our D will allow us to overcome a lot—who knows what kind of 4th quarter magic Allen would’ve pulled out of his behind for the 4th straight week to take advantage of it, had he not been almost killed by a Pats cheap shot. 

[Kelly the Dog]

2 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

The pressure on Brady wasn't anything extraordinary, he just isn't, and never has been, any good under pressure.  Their offense is just designed to mask that.  It's been maddening for decades watching defenses not rattle his ass early and often.  

Blitzing him does not work. All stats show that. The Bills strategy and play today was extraordinary. You can't ever do everything. 

[JerseyBills]

3 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

The pressure on Brady wasn't anything extraordinary, he just isn't, and never has been, any good under pressure.  Their offense is just designed to mask that.  It's been maddening for decades watching defenses not rattle his ass early and often.  

I actually thought it was great pressure. Yes they didn't get a sack but how many balls did Brady throw away?? ALOT. I felt like we consistently got him off his mark and just made it very uncomfortable in the pocket for him all DAY. We absolutely dominated..

 

it was one of the best defensive performances I've seen against Brady/Belicheck

12 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

 

Not to mention that the Pats’ TD came right before a ridiculous pass to white over Milano, and Milano has perfect coverage and had his arm between the ball and defender (and White still caught it). Without that somewhat miraculous catch, they probably don’t even score an offensive TD today.

Great point.

That coverage was as good as it gets. They probably complete that pass 10% of the time.

I'll say it again, that was one of the best defensive performances I've ever seen against Brady/Belicheck and McDaniels. 3.2 ypc on the ground to boot. ????

[Special K]

28 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Not to mention the constant pressure made Brady throw it away time after time...sometimes to no one and from inside the tackle box, hmmmm....thanks for nothing zebras!!

 

IMO, Brady played like a coward today....never seen a QB throw the ball into the dirt less than 2 seconds into a play like that on multiple occasions.

 

He had about 5 intentional grounding penalties, and surprise surprise the refs only call one of them.

[dlonce]

41 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

We're elite but the best D is in Chicago.  

 

Updated ranking:

 

Bears 

Bills 

Patriots 

Vikings

Panthers

Nope, we are better. Until the Bears play the Pats they are an aberration.

Edited September 30, 2019 by dlonce

[Kelly the Dog]

10 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

IMO, Brady played like a coward today....never seen a QB throw the ball into the dirt less than 2 seconds into a play like that on multiple occasions.

 

He had about 5 intentional grounding penalties, and surprise surprise the refs only call one of them.

One they didn't call was brutal. Officials for 30 years have not been following the letter or the spirit of the penalty and let quarterbacks get away with throwing it away just to avoid a sack just because there was a receiver in the vicinity even though the QB was not at all trying to throw to him.  There was one in in third quarter Brady threw away that was clearly IG and worse than the one they actually called on him earlier. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

13 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

One they didn't call was brutal. Officials for 30 years have not been following the letter or the spirit of the penalty and let quarterbacks get away with throwing it away just to avoid a sack just because there was a receiver in the vicinity even though the QB was not at all trying to throw to him.  There was one in in third quarter Brady threw away that was clearly IG and worse than the one they actually called on him earlier. 

I got tired of yelling at the refs on TV, I felt hoarse. It helps to have small children around, they keep this game all relative to its place IRL, but this loss especially smarts knowing many of our issues today were self inflicted, but the contributions of the zebras were yet again, galling. Today’s referee was about as willing to share flags against Brady’s constant grounding, as the McDonalds Hamburglar enjoys sharing a sack of quarter pounders and fries...I’m just sayin! 

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Blitzing him does not work. All stats show that. The Bills strategy and play today was extraordinary. You can't ever do everything. 

This. 

 

The only disappointing thing with the defense was that Hughes went against their Weakest Link (Newhouse) at LT and he couldn't do much the whole day.  Newhouse is Not an NF: Caliber LT and yet he contained Jerry Hughes.  Most of the time Brady was harassed today by everyone except Hughes

[Mark Vader]

2 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Not to mention the constant pressure made Brady throw it away time after time...sometimes to no one and from inside the tackle box, hmmmm....thanks for nothing zebras!!

This is what frustrates me about intentional grounding and how it's called.

[mannc]

2 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

This D is that good. Edmunds became a big factor today. Loved seeing that. 

The secondary is just that good.

weakest link right now is DE. Johnson might develop into something. If he doesn’t, we know Beane will get that addressed. 

This is Brady’s last season. Between now and when we play them on 12/22, I think a lot more things will become clear. Brady doesn’t have it. Brady’s arm is less than what Fitz’s arm was when he was with the Bills. I hope the entire league goes after him. Brady isn’t who he was and I’m glad our d showed it. 

 

I agree. The problem is, Belichick just proved they can still beat good teams on the road even when they get lousy QB play.  They aren’t going away when Brady retires.

[Success]

Just now, mannc said:

I agree. The problem is, Belichick just proved they can still beat good teams on the road even when they get lousy QB play.  They aren’t going away when Brady retires.

Their D isn’t exactly young, either.

 

But yeah - we’re in for it as long as he’s coach,   probably.  

 

[Dr.Sack]

Belichick won the game.

[transient]

7 minutes ago, mannc said:

I agree. The problem is, Belichick just proved they can still beat good teams on the road even when they get lousy QB play.  They aren’t going away when Brady retires.

 

4 minutes ago, Success said:

Their D isn’t exactly young, either.

 

But yeah - we’re in for it as long as he’s coach,   probably.  

 

 

Part of the Patriots*** dominance lies in their confidence and their ability to get into other teams' heads... a big part of that dies with the end of Brady's career, probably even more of it if he falls to pieces before our very eyes before he retires and loses a few games along the way that they otherwise wouldn't have lost.

4 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

Belichick won the game.

 

The Bills offense and special teams lost that game with the help of the refs and some questionable coaching decisions.

[Bing Bong]

3 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

This D is that good. Edmunds became a big factor today. Loved seeing that. 

The secondary is just that good.

weakest link right now is DE. Johnson might develop into something. If he doesn’t, we know Beane will get that addressed. 

This is Brady’s last season. Between now and when we play them on 12/22, I think a lot more things will become clear. Brady doesn’t have it. Brady’s arm is less than what Fitz’s arm was when he was with the Bills. I hope the entire league goes after him. Brady isn’t who he was and I’m glad our d showed it. 

 

Edmunds vastly improving might have been the biggest kicker this year. Love it

1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I got tired of yelling at the refs on TV, I felt hoarse. It helps to have small children around, they keep this game all relative to its place IRL, but this loss especially smarts knowing many of our issues today were self inflicted, but the contributions of the zebras were yet again, galling. Today’s referee was about as willing to share flags against Brady’s constant grounding, as the McDonalds Hamburglar enjoys sharing a sack of quarter pounders and fries...I’m just sayin! 

Haha you'd think at some point the refs would stop giving the GOAT plausible deniability.. like he magically turns into a terrible QB who under throws his WRs 5 yards into the dirt conveniently when pressured. If you're the greatest of all time you're probably just intentionally throwing the ball in the dirt on half your throws.

 

Ya know.. GOAT throws

Edited September 30, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P

[HamSandwhich]

3 hours ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:

The patriots d says hello but yea we’re good.

Patriots D didn’t stop the most prolific Offense in the game up to that point. 

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said:

Patriots D didn’t stop the most prolific Offense in the game up to that point. 

 The bills stopped the chiefs?

Compare to the pats in yards, points, sacks, turnovers.   

[row_33]

5 hours ago, KD in CA said:

Brady's worst ypa in a game he won in his career.  How's that for a gut punch?

they won on the road and were never behind on the scoreboard

 

 

[downunderbill]

As bad as it was, an  Allen led offence outscored a Brady led offence. The Buffalo D is legit.

[row_33]

3 minutes ago, downunderbill said:

As bad as it was, an  Allen led offence outscored a Brady led offence. The Buffalo D is legit

scoreboard is all that matters, who got the W

 

they won on the road without playing well

 

you are claiming a moral victory for the Bills?

 

[downunderbill]

2 minutes ago, row_33 said:

scoreboard is all that matters, who got the W

 

they won on the road without playing well

 

you are claiming a moral victory for the Bills?

 

 

You're right, better to mope and b##ch about the loss on social media. No one is happy about the loss.

Edited September 30, 2019 by downunderbill

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Watching our game and the Bears and similar teams i think Defenses are catching up to these high flying Offenses . Running the football will become important again

 

 

[row_33]

6 minutes ago, downunderbill said:

 

You're right, better to mope and b##ch about the loss on social media. No one is happy about the loss.

they stood up to the Pats, especially after the horrible start to the game

 

it is a step in the right direction 

 

Hope that wasn’t their “super bowl” and they can’t get back to this level again the rest of the way

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

5 hours ago, KD in CA said:

Brady's worst ypa in a game he won in his career.  How's that for a gut punch?

 

next time it will be in a loss.

 

 

[HamSandwhich]

53 minutes ago, mattynh said:

 The bills stopped the chiefs?

Compare to the pats in yards, points, sacks, turnovers.   

Don’t be disingenuous. 

 

Ask yourself, who had the tougher offense to take on. If the Chiefs had a better O up to that point it was a negligible difference. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pats weren’t #1 after the first 3 weeks.

 

II would think anyone would agree that the Pats O was heads and shoulders better. It’s Brady, what did he do?

Edited September 30, 2019 by HamSandwhich

[RobbRiddick]

Not that it matters but you know we won't drop much in the power rankings. If anything it shows we are legit. 

 

If we can just figure out how to score more points. But that defense of the Pats is so good, most other defenses will be easy in comparison 

[Todd Allan]

Who thinks there will be a big fine, or even a game suspension on Jones, for the dirty hit on Allen?

(There had better be!)

I hope he's already back to normal (no symptoms this morning), but maybe it would help Josh's understanding of the game if he misses a start or two.

He really saw the field better after last year's injury put him on the bench. Just sayin'.

 

Overall, I agree that this game should show the league we're a legitimate contender for a playoff spot this year and going forward. We'll sort out the turnover problems, I'm sure. The O line will jell more, and coupled with Singletary's return, that should make Josh's life easier in the pocket. That should lead to fewer "hero ball" mistakes. Good things are in store for Josh Allen & the Buffalo Bills.

(And let's not forget that Jim Kelly threw a lot of picks in his day, but was a HoF QB.)

Even if Barkley starts, I expect the train to keep on a-rollin'.

We've got a chance to beat that hated team in Foxboro in December, if this year's squad continues to grow together and develop.

Still trusting The Process.

Go Bills!

[Stank_Nasty]

8 hours ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:

The patriots d says hello but yea we’re good.

The pats d gave up more points to a much worse offense than the bills d gave up to Tom Brady yesterday. 

 

We had the better unit. 

2 hours ago, row_33 said:

scoreboard is all that matters, who got the W

 

they won on the road without playing well

 

you are claiming a moral victory for the Bills?

 

I think he’s claiming the bills were the better d. 

 

Which is true. 

[May Day 10]

7 hours ago, Special K said:

 

IMO, Brady played like a coward today....never seen a QB throw the ball into the dirt less than 2 seconds into a play like that on multiple occasions.

 

He had about 5 intentional grounding penalties, and surprise surprise the refs only call one of them.

 

Yes, but he is the upright qb at the end of the game, and may play until he is 45.