Dr.Sack Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, Chill said: How about act like a qb and slide. Lowering your head for extra yards is just asking for injury. Pretty dumb for a second year qb. He shouldn’t have even been in that situation, a series of dumb decisions put him at risk. Thats the key word here, risk. He shouldn’t be exposed to this type of danger. I’m starting to come across the word dumb more and more when people talk about Josh Allen’s game. He’s reckless at times but I think he will learn and play smarter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: I’m starting to come across the word dumb more and more when people talk about Josh Allen’s game. He’s reckless at times but I think he will learn and play smarter. Dumb is just an adjective that could be replaced with any other word describing lack of intelligence. Today was extraordinary. I’m hopeful he will learn to play smarter, his team and fans depend on him. He has the potential to be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, Chill said: How about act like a qb and slide. Lowering your head for extra yards is just asking for injury. Pretty dumb for a second year qb. He shouldn’t have even been in that situation, a series of dumb decisions put him at risk. Thats the key word here, risk. He shouldn’t be exposed to this type of danger. I suppose you are going to ignore where he says Brady also does this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 43 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said: Off topic, but did anyone see the hit M. Peters ( Rams DB) took when returning a pick six today vs Tampa Bay ?...he got absolutely destroy by a Oline guy.....I am surprised he got up.....that hit looked awful... One of the hardest hits I recall seeing. Like a truck and a Mini Cooper colliding full speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Iron Maiden said: Off topic, but did anyone see the hit M. Peters ( Rams DB) took when returning a pick six today vs Tampa Bay ?...he got absolutely destroy by a Oline guy.....I am surprised he got up.....that hit looked awful... That was frightful. He literally could have been killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Yep. That is intention to hurt. Classic example. Even if it is not intention to hurt..... if the NFL wants to stop helmet-to-helmet, it has to be consistent. You lay your helmet into another player’s helmet making a tackle, you’re gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 To be honest... cole beasely just stood there and watched allen run. He was in front of allen and could have blocked the guy who hit him, but if you watch replay beasely is literally just standing there doing nothing the entire time allen is scrambling. Why??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgetty Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Iron Maiden said: Off topic, but did anyone see the hit M. Peters ( Rams DB) took when returning a pick six today vs Tampa Bay ?...he got absolutely destroy by a Oline guy.....I am surprised he got up.....that hit looked awful... Saw that too. Teammates had to lift him up an basically carry him off. He’s got 180 vs 300 lbs full speed blasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 hours ago, whatdrought said: Me thinks this thread isn’t actually about updates anymore... Your question of the continuity of this thread is not an update.. .my pointing this out isnt much of an update either. I would apologize but that too would not be an update. Back to the arguing about the concussion guys. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Your question of the continuity of this thread is not an update.. .my pointing this out isnt much of an update either. I would apologize but that too would not be an update. Back to the arguing about the concussion guys. Sorry. So what’s the update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Putin said: So what’s the update? I hope Josh is feeling better today. Its all I have. 3 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: To be honest... cole beasely just stood there and watched allen run. He was in front of allen and could have blocked the guy who hit him, but if you watch replay beasely is literally just standing there doing nothing the entire time allen is scrambling. Why??? Just saw it on the news. Cle was not in a place to make a block. Josh was tied up and then the hit came. Literally seconds to react and he would have had to run around the tackle (clean one) to make the block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Even if it is not intention to hurt..... if the NFL wants to stop helmet-to-helmet, it has to be consistent. You lay your helmet into another player’s helmet making a tackle, you’re gone. Agreed, and anyone who says it wasn't dirty need only look at the db's reaction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 hours ago, SCBills said: It was 3rd down in the 4th Quarter down 6. Nobody is sliding there. SOMEbody would. I have a memory of it happening in a Bills game....but can't remember who it was. Similar situation and I think the quarterback stepped out of bounds....and we were furious (as we should be). You play to win the games. Maybe it was Kyle Orton? Seems it was about that time period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, fergie's ire said: SOMEbody would. I have a memory of it happening in a Bills game....but can't remember who it was. Similar situation and I think the quarterback stepped out of bounds....and we were furious (as we should be). You play to win the games. Maybe it was Kyle Orton? Seems it was about that time period. It was Kyle Orton. He was all but retired at that point, self-preservation was his approach. Edited September 30, 2019 by KellyToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Agreed, and anyone who says it wasn't dirty need only look at the db's reaction. Exactly. The way he flexed and was proud of himself was terrible. That starts with his coaches. The league won’t send a message but it should. One of the young yo and coming QB’s is victim of a blatant helmet to helmet. The league needs to worry less about Tom, he is on his way down in a hurry. Put as much protection in the young guys, they are the future of the league. Tom is the past, by end of the year we will all see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Exactly. The way he flexed and was proud of himself was terrible. That starts with his coaches. The league won’t send a message but it should. One of the young yo and coming QB’s is victim of a blatant helmet to helmet. The league needs to worry less about Tom, he is on his way down in a hurry. Put as much protection in the young guys, they are the future of the league. Tom is the past, by end of the year we will all see it. Vegas had their fingerprints ALL OVER this game. Bills covered the spread and the game was well under the 47 points anticipated! It was a rigged game for the house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh_Allen Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Does anyone have a step by step chart of the concussion protocol and what is needed to pass each stage? I'm wondering if like the first stage is to wait a few days, which right there might kill Allen's availability for Sunday. I'm not at all confident in Barkley and Allen needs to learn as much as possible as quickly as possible so this defense is not wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Josh_Allen said: Does anyone have a step by step chart of the concussion protocol and what is needed to pass each stage? I'm wondering if like the first stage is to wait a few days, which right there might kill Allen's availability for Sunday. I'm not at all confident in Barkley and Allen needs to learn as much as possible as quickly as possible so this defense is not wasted. Here you go. https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/newsroom/videos/nfl-head-neck-spine-committees-concussion-protocol-overview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh_Allen Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Here you go. https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/newsroom/videos/nfl-head-neck-spine-committees-concussion-protocol-overview/ Thanks Yeah, he's not playing Sunday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Josh_Allen said: Thanks Yeah, he's not playing Sunday... Yeah, you have no idea if that's true. We will see how things go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Did Allen have any known concussions in college? All I knew about was the shoulder injury. 18 minutes ago, Josh_Allen said: Thanks Yeah, he's not playing Sunday... It depends he could practice by Wednesday or Thursday if he clears some steps and still be in the protocol as long as the neurologist signs off before Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Doesn’t help Cam that he’s gone all vegan this year either... https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article235295427.html You are hopelessly uninformed. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh_Allen Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: It depends he could practice by Wednesday or Thursday if he clears some steps and still be in the protocol as long as the neurologist signs off before Sunday. It just strikes me that this coaching staff would go with the guy taking 1st team reps all week, Barkley. Allen would have to be practicing Wed and Thurs with the guarantee he'd start, otherwise he's taking reps from Barkley. Edited September 30, 2019 by Josh_Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 As bad as he was yesterday....he's still got more than enough game for teams like the Titans. Jeez I hope he plays. I kept expecting him to take off several times when had had a lot of time...even 2-3 and a slide would have been a big deal, as opposed to those sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 You know when the defense is off sides, they say the QB gets a "free play"? Right now, if there is an offensive flag thrown during a play, the defense gets a free dirty hit! Esp. if you play for the Cheats. WTF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Our receivers are better suited for Barkley's game than Allen's. They get open and it seems the only throw Allen makes consistently is when he is on the run. Allen's long ball is beyond awful and his short ball is worse. He's a great leader and makes exciting plays but I'm not convinced he's a starter in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, Josh_Allen said: Thanks Yeah, he's not playing Sunday... no proof of that Many players have been cleared from the protocol in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 56 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Here you go. https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/newsroom/videos/nfl-head-neck-spine-committees-concussion-protocol-overview/ Well he wasn’t exactly escorted to the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh_Allen Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: no proof of that Many players have been cleared from the protocol in a week. I guess what I am saying is he'd need to be cleared early in the week to get practice reps. All those steps seem like they would take a week at least. I guess I'm basing my opinion on the game plan changes with Barkley at QB vs. Allen, maybe it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Patriots fans really are scumbags. The header on their site is Josh getting knocked out. https://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/forums/patsfans-com-patriots-fan-forum.10/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Maybe I’m one of the few that feels this way but as much as I would rather have Allen out there competing I don’t think there’s much of a drop off with Barkley. He had us a yard away from the go ahead TD if not for a Gilmore tackle and then Gore getting stuffed on the next play followed by a pass off Zay Jones’ hands that Duke Williams would have grabbed (they had obvious chemistry in pre-season I’d call him up for the Titans too bad it won’t happen though ). This team will fight for him too. He doesn’t have the mobility but he is probably a little better at finding the open receivers. I’m reluctant to say that he would have less turnovers than Allen though cause he’s had those issues in his career too, but as long as our defense keeps us in it - and they will - there isn’t too much of a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Josh_Allen said: I guess what I am saying is he'd need to be cleared early in the week to get practice reps. All those steps seem like they would take a week at least. I guess I'm basing my opinion on the game plan changes with Barkley at QB vs. Allen, maybe it doesn't. he can take all the mental Reps all week. And not face an actual rep until walkthrough and he is fine to play. and we want him to play. He gives us the best chance to win sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, cd1 said: You know when the defense is off sides, they say the QB gets a "free play"? Right now, if there is an offensive flag thrown during a play, the defense gets a free dirty hit! Esp. if you play for the Cheats. WTF I agree! Those penalties should not be offsetting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh_Allen Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: he can take all the mental Reps all week. And not face an actual rep until walkthrough and he is fine to play. and we want him to play. He gives us the best chance to win sunday I certainly want him to play, that's why I'm being a pain about the protocol stuff lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, BananaB said: Well he wasn’t exactly escorted to the dressing room. I was thinking the same. It says the player will be walked to the locker room. Allen ran in there on his own. I’m probably grasping at straws here though LOL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Josh_Allen said: I certainly want him to play, that's why I'm being a pain about the protocol stuff lol. I think he is gonna be fine. As long as he isn’t experiencing conditions of the concussion by tomorrow he will likely be good to go Sunday. If he is still in stage 1 tomorrow (Bills don’t talk staged though so will be hard to tell) he will be cleared by Sunday. what worries me is how cautious they were with Morse we might not see Josh until after the bye. Then again Morse has multiple concussions in his history as well. I do think we need Josh against Tennessee though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Maynard said: I agree! Those penalties should not be offsetting! petition the Rules Committee to change this at the next meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Maynard said: I was thinking the same. It says the player will be walked to the locker room. Allen ran in there on his own. I’m probably grasping at straws here though LOL. Just watching him go into the tent and then later when he jogged up the tunnel, he looked fully alert and with-it, and he didn't show any signs of motor impairment. Unfortunately we've all seen players concussed in the NFL before, and they generally look a lot more messed up than Josh did. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he's available on Sunday. I mean, how could my armchair diagnosis based on no medical training be wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 32 minutes ago, cd1 said: You know when the defense is off sides, they say the QB gets a "free play"? Right now, if there is an offensive flag thrown during a play, the defense gets a free dirty hit! Esp. if you play for the Cheats. WTF Great observation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: Just watching him go into the tent and then later when he jogged up the tunnel, he looked fully alert and with-it, and he didn't show any signs of motor impairment. Unfortunately we've all seen players concussed in the NFL before, and they generally look a lot more messed up than Josh did. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he's available on Sunday. I mean, how could my armchair diagnosis based on no medical training be wrong? Agreed. He looked alright. But these things are tricky. Hoping for the best. Prepared for the worst. Edited September 30, 2019 by Dkollidas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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