Hebert19 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Now I'm not endorsing the bring in Duke William's like the other threads in here but we need some help. Knox is nice. But he's not there yet. Beasley is great. Brown is great. Zay is well zay. Not good enough. McKenzie is solid but a better runner than receiver. Gore and Singletary not scaring anyone. Feels like we need another even average weapon. I thought it would be foster but he's invisible again...but I do feel like we will see more of him next week against the Pat's. Thoughts. What/who is out there? If the schedule goes the way I am anticipating this team could be 7 and 2 thru 10 weeks. If so...we need to make a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Singletary has yet to hit his stride, I'm hoping the plan is to keep him fresh for the second half of the season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 This guy is available. Get 'r done, Beane 1 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I’d give Tampa Bay almost whatever they want in terms of draft picks if they ever decided to rebuild and put Mike Evans on the market. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: This guy is available. Get 'r done, Beane Haha— you beat me to this (though I was going to say “git r done, buddy.”)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Agree. We need a true #1 receiver who can take a 10 yard cross and turn it into a 75 yard TD. Next years draft is LOADED at WR. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Sweeney needs to be more involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Now I'm not endorsing the bring in Duke William's like the other threads in here but we need some help. Knox is nice. But he's not there yet. Beasley is great. Brown is great. Zay is well zay. Not good enough. McKenzie is solid but a better runner than receiver. Gore and Singletary not scaring anyone. Feels like we need another even average weapon. I thought it would be foster but he's invisible again...but I do feel like we will see more of him next week against the Pat's. Thoughts. What/who is out there? If the schedule goes the way I am anticipating this team could be 7 and 2 thru 10 weeks. If so...we need to make a move. We have one in Foster...dude has not been utilized hardly at all this year hard to be visible when you aren't on the field and when you are are the 4th or 5th read on the play...he was electric late last season... Edited September 23, 2019 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Agreed an elite no 1 takes us to another level but man looks like where going to be pretty good this year and there are 4 truly great wr talents that we may have trade up to get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 It's never a bad idea to add talent but, I think it's too early to tell. Except for Josh, Dion and Zay, everyone else is new to this team. I'm willing to give them more than 3 games to gel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Would argue that we need more help on the line right now than we do at skilled positions. But completely agree that Beane should consider a trade of some sort to beef up this team as we start to play some actual football teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Bills should trade for AJ Green honestly. Give up a 4th or at most a 3rd. If he doesn't stay healthy when he comes back get rid of him. But could be a nice boom or bust candidate. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Agree. We need a true #1 receiver who can take a 10 yard cross and turn it into a 75 yard TD. Next years draft is LOADED at WR. Brown can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, SCBills said: I’d give Tampa Bay almost whatever they want in terms of draft picks if they ever decided to rebuild and put Mike Evans on the market. I don't know if I were going to give away the farm, think I may prefer goign for the OT from Washington, or someone similar and maybe only need to sell the north 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Bazooka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 We need to replace Zay Jones with what KB was supposed to be -- a guy that's always open. Unfortunately, KB was closed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, matter2003 said: We have one in Foster...dude has not been utilized hardly at all this year hard to be visible when you aren't on the field and when you are are the 4th or 5th read on the play...he was electric late last season... I agree and I love foster but perhaps he is too similar to Beasley and brown...or doesn't run crisp enough patterns. I mean he was clearly better than zay last year and yet here we are with zay as number 3 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Would argue that we need more help on the line right now than we do at skilled positions. But completely agree that Beane should consider a trade of some sort to beef up this team as we start to play some actual football teams. OL needs time to gel. There is some talent there. I think Gore/Singletary has a chance to be a very good duo, but of course.. small sample size. I like our TE’s. Knox looks like the real deal. Sweeney is serviceable. Would really like to see what Kroft brings to the table. WR is the spot to address. We’re a true #1 away from having a high level complete offense. The Rams do it with a bunch of really good 2’s but we need Zay or Foster to step up to run that attack. FWIW, Zay has flashed potential this year. He can’t throw himself the ball though. Edited September 23, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 People absolutely kill me. Knox isn’t there yet? No crap Sherlock. He’s a rookie in his 3rd game. But just had a coming out party today. With a TD and some angry runs that are going to make the league take Notice starting tomorrow morning. Singletary has had 2 solid games as a rookie and if he was in there today would have done even more. Hell, even Yeldon had 50 yards combined today and he sucks. Nobody said McKenzie was ever going to be special. He’s our freaking 6th WR on the roster. What do you expect? But for a 6th WR, a position on most teams that don’t make any difference at all, McKenzie has made a decent season of himself so far. It doesn’t matter if he’s running the ball, catching it, throwing passes, kicking FGs, or anything else. He’s the 6th WR and he’s contributing. Zay Jones????!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Are we really going to keep going with this incredibly stupid argument? The same Jones that averages over 16 yards a catch today? The same Jones that had a 50 yard TD etched in stone it Allen can actually throw an accurate pass to him? If Allen plants his feet on that throw and hits him in the end zone, that same Zay Jones would have had over 80 yards and a TD today. But keep piling on him like the other haters because they don’t like him. We still haven’t had Kroft out there yet. He and Knox will likely be Dabolls version of Gronk and Hernandez when they get on the field at the same time. The talent on this team is just fine. What it needs is a solid 4 quarters without hitting a few duds. Without being a little flat. Without a few costly and stupid turnovers. It’s 8+ new starters on offense, depending on who’s out there on a specific play. They will get there but just stop with the jokes. 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Oil Company Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Rd1 2020 NFL draft. Be patient 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 You mean a RT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, SCBills said: I’d give Tampa Bay almost whatever they want in terms of draft picks if they ever decided to rebuild and put Mike Evans on the market. In a heart beat. 1st and 3rd round picks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) All signs point to Duke, but would be great to see McKenzie get more touches as well. They do need a better option than Yeldon, I'd take Marcus Murphy at this point. Edited September 23, 2019 by Nelius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Tee Higgins WR clemson 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, GreggTX said: We need to replace Zay Jones with what KB was supposed to be -- a guy that's always open. Unfortunately, KB was closed. On Zay Jones not being good enough, that pass in the Giants game should have been a TD, but the throw was off. We all saw a potential TD today not thrown where it should have been. Zay is fine. And good enough. I didn't say he's a #1,but that should have been 2 tds in 3 games and the catch in game 1 on the game winning td. Hey, if we can get a better option, great but he's not playing bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, GreggTX said: We need to replace Zay Jones with what KB was supposed to be -- a guy that's always open. Unfortunately, KB was closed. Zay made a clutch catch and once again Robert Foster completely disappeared, but I guess it's fun to keep picking on Zay or something. Foster is the weak link, let's see what Duke can do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Nelius said: Zay made a clutch catch and once again Robert Foster completely disappeared, but I guess it's fun to keep picking on Zay or something. Foster is the weak link, let's see what Duke can do. His run blocking is pretty good so far too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: They are both underwhelming... I would welcome an AJ Green trade. Exactly why would Cincy trade AJ Green? Let's at least be realistic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I would agree; a Stud WR1 and improvement at the tackle position(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I hope that Foster is largely invisible so far due to lingering injury (toe from the summer) rather than being in the doghouse for some reason. One of the most absurd takes from preseason was the idea that Foster was on the bubble. He was truly remarkable after being cut and played at the level of a top 20 receiver, of a true difference-maker. There could be more going on behind the scenes than we know as fans, but I’m skeptical that concerns over conditioning, work ethic etc. post his first offseason on an NFL salary (sadly common for players to put in minimal effort and uninspired play after getting their first contract or a huge pay bump on the second) would be concerning enough to be out of the plans. Brown was was a great signing and largely fits the same role as Foster, which is certainly a large factor in his reduced snaps and targets. But the Chiefs have made a living off of daring opponents to pick their poison against 4 quality burners, with Kelce serving as a physical mismatch threat and ability on contested balls. If Foster is prepared and healthy, would love to see him on the field over Zay more. Sending him and Brown deep with Beasley and the impressive rookie TEs underneath, + Singletary’s dual threat ability, should make for a legitimately difficult offense to plan against as Josh keeps up his rapid development. While the pass blocking has a lot of room for improvement, especially against blitzes and stacked weak side speed rushes, Josh needs to really work on working through his progressions and getting rid of the ball faster if there’s no play. When he starts locking in on Beasley in the face of heavy pressure or to get back into a rhythm, opposing defenses easily capitalize by swarming Beasley and daring Josh to throw downfield quickly. He does a great job of executing a diverse and unpredictable gameplan when he feels comfortable, but has to feel confident enough with downfield shots after a bad play or stalled series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: He's 31, hasn't stayed healthy and an expiring contract at the end of this year.... and they suck. If he hasn't stayed healthy, and he's 31, then what is the appeal? Why build a roster of an infirmary squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I like our weapons on offense. You need a good OL to run and have a balanced offense. We are built to bludgeon teams. Next week against NE I’m interested in if our offense can push around NE’s front 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) He plays defense but the one guy that hasn't been mentioned around here, probably because he is suspended right now is Patrick Peterson. How would our defense look with him? Edited September 23, 2019 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Right side of the line is an issue. Especially if Feliciano is out. Ford and Nscheke are struggling. I think Ford will be better by 2nd half of the season & I like the rotation for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, mrags said: People absolutely kill me. We still haven’t had Kroft out there yet. He and Knox will likely be Dabolls version of Gronk and Hernandez when they get on the field at the same time. Uh, no. On another thread, I read someone arguing the subtlety of what a best case scenario is. THIS is the epitome of that. Kroft is not nearly the receiver Hernandez was let alone Gronk. I hope Knox develops, but hoping he can become Gronk is overly optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: If he hasn't stayed healthy, and he's 31, then what is the appeal? Why build a roster of an infirmary squad? Because we are really not that far from being a legit contender. This team has a lot of flaws, but if Allen keeps improving his decision making and protecting the ball, this team could be good enough to win a playoff game or two as early as this year. Barely beating bad teams highlights the flaws in ball security, pass blocking, QB decision making/reaction time and “time wasting” mentality to protect narrow leads. The QB and team have clearly shown progress over Josh’s 13 starts in shoring up flaws, and has competitors with playmaking ability behind an offensive line that is middle of the road (easily bottom 5 in 2017 and 2018). Benjamin , Clay, and a greener Zay Jones (who is disappointing, but has gone from a massive liability to the type of guy good teams are fine with as a 4th or so option). Brown has always been underrated and is a good route runner who can burn people; the TEs are promising; Beasley is always open. Adding a big target with good hands and speed who is a flexible downfield and medium yardage threat would make this offense more unpredictable than just having Brown our wide and Beasley just past the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, familykwi said: Uh, no. On another thread, I read someone arguing the subtlety of what a best case scenario is. THIS is the epitome of that. Kroft is not nearly the receiver Hernandez was let alone Gronk. I hope Knox develops, but hoping he can become Gronk is overly optimistic. I think you are being overly anal about people talking on a message board. I never said either of these guys would be as good as a HOF TE and a very good gang member murderer. I simply said they will be Dabolls version of them on this team. He will likely use multiples TE sets more when Kroft comes back. It will likely open some things up a bit more. Just stop being so critical about people talking on a message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The offense isnt done yet......we have had 2 VERY good drafts and enter into next year with another group of draft picks and a ton of cap space....... TE set Need another RB Need another OT Need a WR go go along with Brown and Beasely BUT.....we are 3 and 0.....and good enough to make the playoffs this year The future is bright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 We had one but they cut Shady. I agree a big body WR would be a nice add. But, I would favor a two TE, single back, two WR formation when Kroft gets healthy. A combination of Knox, Kroft, Brown, and Beasley will be very difficult to defend. Both of the TEs could split out into a 3 wide formation or both could be on the LOS to run. All that said, the real need is a pass rusher. Murphy is still terrible. Lawson will never be a pass rusher. Oliver has not generated much push. He will take a long time to develop. They should trade for Vonn Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 How about Sammy Watkins or Robert Woods? Too bad Tyrol Taylor and Rex Ryan ruined their time here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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