Josh Allen - week TWO report card

[rayray808]

WEEK ONE: B-

 

WEEK TWO: B

 

19/30 - 253 yards - TD - 21 yards rushing - rushing TD - 63% completion rate

 

A tale of two halves for me, and it could be play calling... but I think I liked what I saw today. His ability to assess the gambles better are beginning to show: throwing at guys feet when the screen isnʻt there vs throwing the ball out of bounds vs chucking the ball to someone open to complete the first down.

 

1st half: I loved that the Giants came down and scored right away. It allowed Josh to enter a game knowing that he needed to get momentum back, and that he did. He ended the half with 200+ yards passing and I was so excited to see them come out of the half and just deliver the knockout punch. Well...

 

2nd half: I blame the majority on play calling but jeez that was a let down. Still though, Allen did what needed to be done and made the throws necessary to seal the deal.

 

It wasn't sexy, or the "fantasy football" QB1 game for the ages, but he did better than last week... and most importantly got us 2 road wins to start the season.

 

FUN FACT OF THE WEEK: Josh Allen is now tied with Sam Darnold for wins at Metlife Stadium.

 

GO BILLS 

[Hebert19]

My question is....will he lead league in rushing TDs.  My guess is yes.  

[CincyBillsFan]

My grade is an A for the simple reason that we won and like last week he was instrumental in our victory. 

 

The offensive explosion in the late 1st/2nd quarter was all Allen.  The 98 yard drive was as beautiful as it was improbable.

 

Sure the 3rd quarter sucked and that was a combination of by design and some sloppy play by the offense.  But when the Bills needed Allen to come through he did  leading a masterful TD drive in the 4th to seal the win.

 

Looking only at his numbers he gets a B+ but taking into account his clutch play when we needed it most (98 yard TD drive and 4th quarter TD drive) and the fact that the Bills won he gets an A+.  So by averaging a B+ & A+ I get an A.  Now that's my kind of analytics! 

 

 

[Max Fischer]

It's a solid B+.  Only conservative 3rd Q play calling held him back.  

 

Sidenote - I'm not that critical of the 3rd Q playcalling, I thought it was somewhat appropriate and probably signaled that this Offense is not made to play safe. I'll be surprised if the Bills again play like that with a lead. 

 

I thought Allen was in command the entire game. He made throws that two or three QBs could possibly make.  He made the right reads and not for one or two off throws and a handful of drops the Bills could have easily scored over 40.  Once the coaches give him more leash I think we will see how good he could be.  

 

 

 

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

I'm giving him an A this week, felt he was the MVP of the game.

[DuckyBoys]

I'd give him an A this week  Three very long drives . Several third and longs converted.  No turnovers, no wild hero ball shenanigans Also 4/4 in the red zone

[GunnerBill]

A- 

 

I thought his best game as a pro. 

[Wayne Arnold]

C+

 

Weak 2nd half.

 

Those giving him an A have to raise their expectations. 

[Bangarang]

A

 

He was very good today. 

[BillsfanAZ]

I think the third quarter and into the 4th were hard to watch. It was a huge drop by Knox. That would have sustained a drive that could have led to more points on the board.

[John from Riverside]

A SOLID B plus

 

over 200 yards

scored points

no turnovers

 

HE gets an A if the 3rd quarter wouldnt have been a bla

[Ben]

W thats all that matters

 

[TroutDog]

I question whether it was play calling in the second half or O execution. I’d tend towards the latter. 

 

With that being said, I’d say Josh earned an ‘A’ having no turnovers, earning a ‘W’ and passing at 64%...well above his preconceived threshold. ON THE ROAD...for the second week. 

Edited September 15, 2019 by TroutDog

[CincyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

C+

 

Weak 2nd half.

 

Those giving him an A have to raise their expectations. 

 

My first expectation is that Allen leads us to a WIN.  That has happened two weeks in a row.  If he does that he's already flirting with an A.

 

My second expectation is that he's clutch.  Sure a QB can complete a couple of nice passes at the end of the half that take their team from the 15 yard line to midfield then the half is over.  Or on 3rd & 20 a QB can throw a beautiful 17 yard pass.  But that's not clutch, that's just numbers.  Clutch is taking his team on a 98 yard drive to break the game open.  Allen gets a lot of credit for making some terrific throws on a drive that I kept saying "let's at least get the ball out to the 30 so we can get a good punt off".  That TD drive was way more important then everything the O didn't do in a lethargic 3rd quarter.

 

Clutch was Allen leading the Bills on a long 4th quarter TD drive after the Giants had cut the lead to 7.  The key play was an amazing scramble & throw by Allen.  In fact Allen's play in both 4th quarters, on the road, has been outstanding and the very definition of clutch. 

[DuckyBoys]

13 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

C+

 

Weak 2nd half.

 

Those giving him an A have to raise their expectations. 

you gotta stop trolling us

[Buffalo Boy]

    I really appreciated watching him give up on plays and throw it away or into the ground.

    He didn’t make a single egregious decision that I saw. I still don’t like the diving head. first on runs but he slid feet first at least once so that shows progress. 

    The amount of growth we are seeing from this KID is so heartening.

 

[Buddo]

There were a couple of awesome throws in amongst a very professional performance, where whenever he played a bit of ‘hero ball’, he hit his target. The throw on the move to Knox, was as good as anything else we will see this weekend. ?

 

No less than an A- for me. He also was largely very sensible with the football 

[sven233]

Today he was a solid B.  I'd give him an A for the first half and a C for the 2nd half so we'll call it a B overall.

 

But no matter what letter you give him, the only one that matters is the W.

[dubs]

27 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

C+

 

Weak 2nd half.

 

Those giving him an A have to raise their expectations. 

 

Ha!!  Funny thing is a lot of people will think you’re serious with that!  ?? 

[Drunken Pygmy Goat]

He missed 2 throws, and was slighlty off on 1 or 2 completions. A- at worst IMO

[skibum]

I can't give him better than a B until he starts hitting guys in stride. He is still mostly putting the ball in places where guys have to adjust awkwardly, and have no shot at running anywhere after the catch. If he ever gets that dialed in, he will become a Hall of Famer. 

[Perry Turtle]

For the second week in a row, the Bills needed a drive in the 4th quarter, and Allen drove them down the field.  You don't win the Super Bowl the second week of the season, but you can do a lot to build the right foundation.

 

is this an A game for the 10th week of the season?  Probably not.  Is it an A game for the second game of the season, both in the road, with 8 new starters on the offense?  Yep.

[Kelly the Dog]

6 minutes ago, skibum said:

I can't give him better than a B until he starts hitting guys in stride. He is still mostly putting the ball in places where guys have to adjust awkwardly, and have no shot at running anywhere after the catch. If he ever gets that dialed in, he will become a Hall of Famer. 

So it's either above average or Hall of Fame? There is no in between?

[Wayne Arnold]

13 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

you gotta stop trolling us

 

I won't apologize for being a tough grader. My hope for Allen is that of a future Super Bowl champion and Hall of Famer. I'm going to grade him accordingly.

 

He needs a killer instinct. He should want to destroy the bad teams like the Giants. I could see the Giants going 1-15 this season and they made it a game because the offense didn't show up after halftime until late in the 4th quarter.

 

Brady will pick his opponent's heart out and eat it in front of his children.

 

That's what I want that in my QB. Without it, we'll never see our Bills overtake the Patriots.

[Andy1]

I’ll give him an A- for the game. I was very impressed with all the long dives he put together. That is something we haven’t seen much from our QBs in the past. I think he can continue to grow by varying ball velocity when appropriate . It still seems like it’s all fastballs. His decision making has definitely improved and that is a great thing to see. 

[njbuff]

The way the OL is a work-in-progress and was disappointing in pass protection................

 

I am giving Allen an A today.

 

He missed a few throws, but they all do.

 

He is still meshing with NINE new starters around him.

 

I can't really complain too much about Allen, only the haters and people who are clueless about football are bashing Allen.

[Magox]

Solid B+

 

Those 3 straight TD drives including a 98 yarder was akin to an early knockout blow in the 2nd quarter.

 

The game was in very little doubt after that.  The only time that the Giants looked like they could be a threat Allen led them to another TD drive with that sick 3rd down conversion where he juked the defender escaped the pocket and threw a strike across his body on the run to Brown.  That play was clutch.

 

He made a few errant passes and held it longer than he should have a couple times but he was a standout performer.

Edited September 15, 2019 by Magox

[MJS]

I'd give him an A-. I didn't see anything bad that he did. There was one overthrow to Brown on the deep route, but that happens.

 

My absolute favorite play from him today was when they were backed up in their own end zone. He stood tall in the pocket and went through his reads to find Brown open for a big gain. Takes a ton of confidence and trust in your oline to stay in the pocket and wait (while standing in your end zone!) for the play to progress. Most QB's panic in that situation and get happy feet, then rush the throw or try to scramble to get out of the end zone. I was really impressed with how calm he was on the play. And dang, great protection by the online on that play too.

[Kelly the Dog]

All new OL except Dawkins, all new main receivers, all new TE and all new RBs. Started only 13 games or something. That's pretty impressive.

[Rico]

Another A+ for getting the win.

[Numark3]

This narrative of conservative play calling in the third quarter is going to hurt my head.  It. Did. Not. Happen.

 

Not moving the ball does not equal conservative play calling.  We took a lot of penalties and the giants had a pass rush all of a sudden.  

[Wayne Arnold]

Just now, Rico said:

Another A+ for getting the win.

 

Now that's just lazy.

[Mojo44]

1 minute ago, Crayola64 said:

This narrative of conservative play calling in the third quarter is going to hurt my head.  It. Did. Not. Happen.

 

Not moving the ball does not equal conservative play calling.  We took a lot of penalties and the giants had a pass rush all of a sudden.  

Yes! 1000 times yes! It seems this needs to be shouted from the rooftops. Also, they did not come out overconfident which is another silly narrative I am hearing. If they came out “overconfident” in the second half of this game then they must have been Uber over confident in the first half of the Jets game

[Hebert19]

8 different receivers on 19 completions.  A

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

6 minutes ago, Rico said:

Another A+ for getting the win.

As usual you get it!!!

[Seven-N-Nine]

B

 

Could have had a better grade but the play calling let him down.

[stinky finger]

31 minutes ago, skibum said:

I can't give him better than a B until he starts hitting guys in stride. He is still mostly putting the ball in places where guys have to adjust awkwardly, and have no shot at running anywhere after the catch. If he ever gets that dialed in, he will become a Hall of Famer. 

 

Either you didn't see the game or you're a JA hack who falls back on this tedious narrative. He was in full command today and the vast majority of his passes were lasers that were spot on. Not every pass. The vast majority.

 

[billsfan_34]

I think we forget JA has minimal starts under his belt and pretty raw coming out of college. He is going to have ups and down but the ups seem to be more than the downs as of late. He has all the tools, is smart and motivated. I hope he continues to get better.

28 minutes ago, njbuff said:

The way the OL is a work-in-progress and was disappointing in pass protection................

 

I am giving Allen an A today.

 

He missed a few throws, but they all do.

 

He is still meshing with NINE new starters around him.

 

I can't really complain too much about Allen, only the haters and people who are clueless about football are bashing Allen.

I like his progression. A few times he held the ball a little too long but overall pretty solid game. 

[MJS]

12 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

This narrative of conservative play calling in the third quarter is going to hurt my head.  It. Did. Not. Happen.

 

Not moving the ball does not equal conservative play calling.  We took a lot of penalties and the giants had a pass rush all of a sudden.  

I agree with that mostly, but I would say the offense was playing comfortably and not taking risks. Then NY scored and that got them back into a sense of urgency, and they drove right down the field and scored again.

[Reed83HOF]