MJS Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Right now it seems like Maycock has had his legs cut from under him. This whole situation is making him look like the GM in name only. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if Mayock is having second thoughts right about now about taking the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, MJS said: He laughed and said he thought the video was awesome. He has ignored all of Brown's crap and didn't want him suspended, even after he threatened Mayock and flipped out. He doesn't care, he just wants him on the field. Got a linky or source for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Got a linky or source for that? Read the thread. Edit: Page 2, link to tweet from Chris Mortensen. Edited September 7, 2019 by MJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, SJDK said: No. You can say any pub is good pub all you want but if brown is released nobody is signing him to a big contract. Nobody. Players notice that stuff. They would think twice about signing Rosenhaus. Wasn't saying it was good pub. Wasn't saying nobody would sign AB to a big contract if the Raiders cut ties. I just don't see the tie between the video and Rosenhaus - except that now he has to manage the situation and protect his clients and his own interests. If he manages that his stock could actually rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Got a linky or source for that? 49 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I give up Edited September 7, 2019 by Warcodered Wrong tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: This makes alot of sense and could be part of the problem with him getting the money. Dude could just be mentally ill on his own too. The illusions of grandeur are there for sure lol that would be delusions of grandeur, FYI ..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 47 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I give up Well then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Wow. What an idiot. I’m not sure about California, but in most states it’s a criminal offense to record a phone call without permission. I’m guessing Gruden did not give AB permission to record that call. That could easily be grounds to terminate his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: how the hell could Gruden be amused by this - at all ? or think it was "awesome".......something's not right with him either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Wasn't saying it was good pub. Wasn't saying nobody would sign AB to a big contract if the Raiders cut ties. I just don't see the tie between the video and Rosenhaus - except that now he has to manage the situation and protect his clients and his own interests. If he manages that his stock could actually rise. In all honesty it was probably Rosenhaus that told AB to do make/post the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: Brown is off his rocker. Not Incognito off his rocker but he is off his rocker none the less. They need to room together. 2 men enter, 1 man leaves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, mannc said: Wow. What an idiot. I’m not sure about California, but in most states it’s a criminal offense to record a phone call without permission. I’m guessing Gruden did not give AB permission to record that call. That could easily be grounds to terminate his contract. It could be, but per the unnamed Raiders source quoted in a tweet up thread, it won't be. Gruden laughed it off. "Just play football, Man" Mayock needs to either leave quietly, or place his manhood in a Blind Trust if he's gonna stay because that article linked above by Kurtenbach had it Damn Straight: this won't be the last of Brown's antics, not by a long chalk: "But the video won’t be the end of it. Not by a longshot. You give Brown an inch and he takes a yard, both on the field and off it. Now Gruden has effectively given him multiple passes for two transgressions that would have gotten any other player in the NFL immediately cut. What’s next? I couldn’t have fathomed Friday night’s video, so whatever is coming is sure to be a doozy. Oh, and we haven’t even started the season yet. Just wait until actual football is involved. Do you think Brown will hesitate to share his true feelings on quarterback Derek Carr if he’s not getting the ball frequently enough?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: In all honesty it was probably Rosenhaus that told AB to do make/post the video. Was it also Rosenhaus that instructed AB to confront Mayock? How about the helmet issue, Rosenhaus? You may be right, I'm not dying on that hill, just wasn't my first thought. Maybe it's been sitting on the shelf the past few weeks and he/they decided to post it today. From what I've seen Rosenhaus has been trying to protect his investment and I'm not sure how posting the video this evening helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I’m certain Mark Davis will step in and diffuse the situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It could be, but per the unnamed Raiders source quoted in a tweet up thread, it won't be. Gruden laughed it off. "Just play football, Man" Mayock needs to either leave quietly, or place his manhood in a Blind Trust if he's gonna stay because that article linked above by Kurtenbach had it Damn Straight: this won't be the last of Brown's antics, not by a long chalk: "But the video won’t be the end of it. Not by a longshot. You give Brown an inch and he takes a yard, both on the field and off it. Now Gruden has effectively given him multiple passes for two transgressions that would have gotten any other player in the NFL immediately cut. What’s next? I couldn’t have fathomed Friday night’s video, so whatever is coming is sure to be a doozy. Oh, and we haven’t even started the season yet. Just wait until actual football is involved. Do you think Brown will hesitate to share his true feelings on quarterback Derek Carr if he’s not getting the ball frequently enough?" AB: Just what the hell do I have to do to get you people to fire me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Was it also Rosenhaus that instructed AB to confront Mayock? How about the helmet issue, Rosenhaus? You may be right, I'm not dying on that hill, just wasn't my first thought. Maybe it's been sitting on the shelf the past few weeks and he/they decided to post it today. From what I've seen Rosenhaus has been trying to protect his investment and I'm not sure how posting the video this evening helps. Not saying you're wrong, just had the feeling of something an agent would tell his client to put out there with the timing of everything. Also AB has seemed pretty damn out of his mind recently to come up with idea of recording his boss on a phone call. Just my 2 cents. Edited September 7, 2019 by The Wiz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 AB > James Comey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Mark Davis has a lot of coaches and players in the sewer with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 And people thought Terrell Owens had drama... TO was a saint compared to Brown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: And people thought Terrell Owens had drama... TO was a saint compared to Brown. Could be one of two things: 1- It's just the media access of today, vs. 10 years ago. 2- TO really just was trying to get attention, while AB is just straight up insane... Edited September 7, 2019 by whatdrought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: Brown is off his rocker. Not Incognito off his rocker but he is off his rocker none the less. ....and Chuckie has a few loose screws for keeping him.....what an embarrassment....SMH..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 TBD Tonio Brown Drive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 35 minutes ago, wppete said: What the F did I just watch?!?!? What was that all about?!?!?! A cry for help. Do you want me to be a Raider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) This guy’s act is tedious at this point. It just goes to show that all that coachspeak about “no distractions” only applies up to a point. Talent wins out in that race if you got enough of it. Ship this guy to the XFL he belongs there. Edited September 7, 2019 by JoPar_v2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Well, apparently AB went to the right team. I’m not sure how many other teams would put up with this, especially from a guy who hasn’t even played s snap for their team yet and just got out of a messy “divorce” with his previous team. Gruden doesn't seem to care that AB has very quickly made the Oakland Raiders into a drama filled reality TV show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Even TO thinks AB has gone too far ..... TO says AB should take a few steps back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Wow. All I can say about that vid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Well, apparently AB went to the right team. I’m not sure how many other teams would put up with this, especially from a guy who hasn’t even played s snap for their team yet and just got out of a messy “divorce” with his previous team. Gruden doesn't seem to care that AB has very quickly made the Oakland Raiders into a drama filled reality TV show. The Oakland Raider Circus opening in Las Vegas some time soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 This situation is getting bizarre. It is starting to remind me of a tragic stage play. Brown is full of sorrow as a result of his flaws and his inability to cope with the external world. This is the NFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: Brown is off his rocker. Not Incognito off his rocker but he is off his rocker none the less. I didn't know this but apparently they're teammates now. What the hell is Mayock thinking with Brown, Burfect, and Incognito on the same roster? Is there some sort of weird curse on this franchise that just makes their coaches/Ms/Owners do insane things one after the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Recording phone calls (private convos) is illegal in California, no? Let alone posting them on social media. *consults legal team* Cal. Penal Code § 632 (a) A person who, intentionally and without the consent of all parties to a confidential communication, uses anelectronic amplifying or recording device to eavesdrop upon or record the confidential communication, whether the communication is carried on among the parties in the presence of one another or by means of a telegraph, telephone, or other device, except a radio, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand five hundred dollars ($2,500) per violation, or imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment. If the person has previously been convicted of a violation of this section or Section 631 , 632.5 , 632.6 , 632.7 , or 636 , the person shall be punished by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000) per violation, by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment. (b) For the purposes of this section, “person” means an individual, business association, partnership, corporation, limited liability company, or other legal entity, and an individual acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any government or subdivision thereof, whether federal, state, or local, but excludes an individual known by all parties to a confidential communication to be overhearing or recording the communication. (c) For the purposes of this section, “confidential communication” means any communication carried on in circumstances as may reasonably indicate that any party to the communication desires it to be confined to the parties thereto, but excludes a communication made in a public gathering or in any legislative, judicial, executive, or administrative proceeding open to the public, or in any other circumstance in which the parties to the communication may reasonably expect that the communication may be overheard or recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Not sure how the team could ever trust him again after this...you never know if you’re being recorded or not. Question is "Is this illegal in state where he made recording?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Question is "Is this illegal in state where he made recording?" One assumes AB was still in Cali when he recorded it, but you never know with that guy. If he was in Cali, yeah it’s a 2 party state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 AB is nuttier than a port-a-potty at a peanut festival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) What's wrong with this guy? Better question: what's wrong with Gruden and Mayock that this guy is still allowed to be on the team? This is a person who's life is going to be empty in 5 years... or now... Edited September 7, 2019 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Which he is. He reports to Gruden, which is now obvious. He’s a scout, that’s it. Then why was AB angry at Mayock for the fines? If Mayock reports to Gruden then Gruden obviously OKd them, if not actually authored them himself. Why shoot the messenger? Edited September 7, 2019 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: How can they EVER trust him, EVER again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Does Brown want to play anymore? I think Brown likes the attention and probably the money but I don’t think he likes the game. I think Brown has figured this out on some level and is struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I think Gruden's trying to figure out how Tomlin handled him to make him the most consistent and productive WR over the last eight seasons. There may be this feeling that once the regular season starts then AB will get down to business and dominate on the football field. We'll see if that's the case. I doubt it but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: @Hapless Bills Fan- not so sure they made up You just can't make this stuff up, sounds to me he really doesn't want to play football. He juts wants to be a family-man, nothing wrong with that. But, it's hard to walk away from $30 Million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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