Reed83HOF Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I give up We just forgot the only person who might want attention as much as AB was Gruden.? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I give up I'm with you. This is some pretty weird stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I cannot wait for the ESPN 30 for 30 on this. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Recording phone calls (private convos) is illegal in California, no? Let alone posting them on social media. *consults legal team* California is 2 party consent to recording someones conversation, so AB just committed a felony most likely lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, Johnnycage46 said: I'm with you. This is some pretty weird stuff. Seriously! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, brianthomas said: California is 2 party consent to recording someones conversation, so AB just committed a felony most likely lol Gruden: “I love felonies, man. Knock on wood if you’re with me.” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Seems like hes going through some sort of mid career/existential crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I give up They deserve each other. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 This is disturbing imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 58 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Oh man - AB posted this on Youtube... Watch it before it comes down - it contains taped phone calls with Gruden So he went out and had a PR or video firm produce that for him including the shots of him in the pool over the taped phone calls from Gruden? Whoaoa 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I cannot wait for the ESPN 30 for 30 on this. I was gonna reply with a "what if I told you..." But I honestly have no idea how to frame this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 53 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Well he said no more games there at the end lets see if that becomes a reality, I mean Jesus this guy does not seem right. But also he didn't do this himself right? So he hired someone to make a video like this? I'm not sure we dodged a bullet or a grenade at this point. Would seem to be the case. That's pretty professional in its production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Would seem to be the case. That's pretty professional in its production. and yet he didn't credit anyone in the video or the description wonder if he'll actually pay them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 54 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Recording phone calls (private convos) is illegal in California, no? Let alone posting them on social media. *consults legal team* That is my understanding - unless it was done with the consent of both parties "Hey Coach, Imma record this, that good with you?" Lordy lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Next step is Agent Drew quits on him, otherwise he looks like he’s in on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: and yet he didn't credit anyone in the video or the description wonder if he'll actually pay them. There's a logo with a name in it at the end, "Stick Talk" is how I read it. I assume that's the video company. I wonder if Rosenhaus knew about this SMDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So he went out and had a PR or video firm produce that for him including the shots of him in the pool over the taped phone calls from Gruden? Whoaoa I'm at a loss, I reallyam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: @Hapless Bills Fan- not so sure they made up Whether or not they made up....That was Then, This is Now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, SJDK said: Next step is Agent Drew quits on him, otherwise he looks like he’s in on it. You're joking about Rosenhaus quitting, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I liked the video... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I'm at a loss, I reallyam That whole video just reeks of perceived victimhood. Poor AB, maligned and misunderstood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Anyone wonder if Gruden knew he was being recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: You're joking about Rosenhaus quitting, right? No. You can say any pub is good pub all you want but if brown is released nobody is signing him to a big contract. Nobody. Players notice that stuff. They would think twice about signing Rosenhaus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, StHustle said: That video was actually pretty dope! AB honestly acts like a guy who is coked up alot. Dont ask me how I know. This makes alot of sense and could be part of the problem with him getting the money. Dude could just be mentally ill on his own too. The illusions of grandeur are there for sure lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I liked the video... Viewed from an abstract perspective as a PR video, it's very very well done. The music, the lighting, the camera angles, the transitions. Viewed from the perspective of an organization that is trying to put this behind them and move on.......it's a freakin' gauntlet, and that's not to mention the issue of whether Gruden gave permission for his call to be recorded thus rendering it legal under CA law (or whether he can give such permission as an employee of the Raiders organization acting as a Raiders employee) 2 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Anyone wonder if Gruden knew he was being recorded? Oh yeah. Big Time wonder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I liked the video... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Possibility it may have been a convo from before the Mayock incident and maybe it was ok’d by Gruden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 He's a complete idiot who needs some serious therapy but I must say the video/editing was top notch Reminds me of the Joker movie trailer Maybe Joaquim Phoenix and him can rap together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: There's a logo with a name in it at the end, "Stick Talk" is how I read it. I assume that's the video company. I wonder if Rosenhaus knew about this SMDH Your right looked it up it's a guy that's done a video for him before it looks like. Still would of been nice to link to his twitter, Instagram, or any other way he does business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Viewed from an abstract perspective as a PR video, it's very very well done. The music, the lighting, the camera angles, the transitions. Viewed from the perspective of an organization that is trying to put this behind them and move on.......it's a freakin' gauntlet, and that's not to mention the issue of whether Gruden gave permission for his call to be recorded thus rendering it legal under CA law (or whether he can give such permission as an employee of the Raiders organization acting as a Raiders employee) Oh yeah. Big Time wonder. I don’t think anyone involved really cares about the taping. Viewed another way it could be looked at as a mercurial, talented individual trying to put closure on an absurd situation by folding it into his brand. Times have changed, that’s for sure. I’m not defending the guy - but I don’t see this video as a big deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Even if Gruden is fine with it, I bet Mayock is fuming. Mayock seems to be a professional and actually cares how the organization is perceived. Gruden does not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Anyone wonder if Gruden knew he was being recorded? Yes. I also wonder when the conversation took place. Seems like it could be anytime since the Mayock 'all in' comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, MJS said: Even if Gruden is fine with it, I bet Mayock is fuming. Mayock seems to be a professional and actually cares how the organization is perceived. Gruden does not. Has Mike Mayock ever had to manage employees and a brand, in his life? He seems totally in over his head to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, MJS said: Even if Gruden is fine with it, I bet Mayock is fuming. Mayock seems to be a professional and actually cares how the organization is perceived. Gruden does not. With regard to this situation, what has Gruden said (or done) on the record that makes you think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, MJS said: Even if Gruden is fine with it, I bet Mayock is fuming. Mayock seems to be a professional and actually cares how the organization is perceived. Gruden does not. Right now it seems like Maycock has had his legs cut from under him. This whole situation is making him look like the GM in name only. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, Warcodered said: Right now it seems like Maycock has had his legs cut from under him. This whole situation is making him look like the GM in name only. Which he is. He reports to Gruden, which is now obvious. He’s a scout, that’s it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: With regard to this situation, what has Gruden said (or done) on the record that makes you think that? He laughed and said he thought the video was awesome. He has ignored all of Brown's crap and didn't want him suspended, even after he threatened Mayock and flipped out. He doesn't care, he just wants him on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 What the F did I just watch?!?!? What was that all about?!?!?! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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