billsredneck1 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) I don't get it. Is it because they want to get clicks? I'm listening to WGR guys saying this..are you kidding me? Well throw it on because the Karma and the Bills with Josh Allen will hang 40 on the Jets. iIm confident now, knowing all the media pundits are playing what they believe to be the safe side bet. Underdogs even with our own reporters? To them all i can say is... SUCK IT! Edited September 5, 2019 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) i dunno...maybe because most of the national pundits are saying the same thing? it might be true? Edited September 5, 2019 by Foxx 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Foxx said: i dunno...maybe because most of the national pundits are saying the same thing? it might be true? Fake news 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: I don't get it. Is it because they want to get clicks? I'm listening to WGR guys saying this..are you kidding me? Well throw it on because the Karma and the Bills with Josh Allen will hang 40 on the Jets. iIm confident now, knowing all the media pundits are playing what they believe to be the safe side bet. Underdogs even with our own reporters? To them all i can say is... SUCK IT! Curious who these WGR guys might be? I've said elsewhere, I'll say here: at this time of year, the media goes off last year's performance. What else they got to go on? And last year the Jets scored the 23rd most points in the league. The Bills, the 30th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 i'm stoked. i think this is gonna be a beatdown....and i remember the opener a few years ago when it was supposed to be a cake and we got spanked....i get that, but now i got a strong feeling about this. we need this win bad. it's gonna be the difference between 9-7 and 10-6. mcd and dabol are gonna crush it yum! #feargreggonot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 No love for Buffalo. All the ESPN experts picked the Jets to win outright. Wont change perceptions until they start winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Curious who these WGR guys might be? I've said elsewhere, I'll say here: at this time of year, the media goes off last year's performance. What else they got to go on? And last year the Jets scored the 23rd most points in the league. The Bills, the 30th. nate geary?...i'm guessing because i don't write this stuff down, but it was minutes before i started the thread. i've been hearing it all day too. every local host is calling the jets more talented on offense. is that because they're scared of man boobs? we got this ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: I don't get it. Is it because they want to get clicks? I'm listening to WGR guys saying this..are you kidding me? Well throw it on because the Karma and the Bills with Josh Allen will hang 40 on the Jets. iIm confident now, knowing all the media pundits are playing what they believe to be the safe side bet. Underdogs even with our own reporters? To them all i can say is... SUCK IT! Quarterbacking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: I don't get it. Is it because they want to get clicks? I'm listening to WGR guys saying this..are you kidding me? Well throw it on because the Karma and the Bills with Josh Allen will hang 40 on the Jets. iIm confident now, knowing all the media pundits are playing what they believe to be the safe side bet. Underdogs even with our own reporters? To them all i can say is... SUCK IT! I like your optimism and enthusiasm! Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpsuit Jim Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Who cares? Our offense doesn’t play against their offense. The real question is whether or not their offense is better than our defense. Hint: It isn’t. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, Jumpsuit Jim said: Who cares? Our offense doesn’t play against their offense. The real question is whether or not their offense is better than our defense. Hint: It isn’t. ^This guy gets it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I think it's going to be a tight game that comes down to who makes the fewest mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Well apparently they have a better QB, and picked up one of the top RBs in the league while the Bills go with a 3rd rounder and 2 guys over 30. On paper the Bills have no #1 WR, just a bunch of decent ones with a few different skillsets. The Bills biggest signing this offseason was on their online and he is one good hit away from spending time on the bench figuring out his name.... I think the Bills will be better, but I understand why the Jets would still be viewed as favorites 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) It's simple..... the QB. Like it or not, Allen is going to be disrespected and be shoved down everyone's throats as a BUST........until Allen proves them wrong. Most were so convinced Allen was going to be absolutely awful coming out of college with a 0% chance of getting better. They will hold onto every shred of that they can until Allen obliterates that narrative. Allen could throw for 350 yards in several games this year with a 57% completion percentage and all they will focus on is how he is "inaccurate" because he misses a couple throws once in a while and isn't completing 63% of his passes. Even if Allen does fantastic this year, there will still be the majority out there calling "fluke." Any other QB does the same thing, they will get praised for being the next great one. Just the way it is, unfortunately. That said, I hope Josh starts flexing on everyone this year. GO BILLS! Edited September 6, 2019 by sven233 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Jumpsuit Jim said: Who cares? Our offense doesn’t play against their offense. The real question is whether or not their offense is better than our defense. Hint: It isn’t. our offense doesn't play their offense....that's deep. 6 sacks.gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: I don't get it. Is it because they want to get clicks? I'm listening to WGR guys saying this..are you kidding me? Well throw it on because the Karma and the Bills with Josh Allen will hang 40 on the Jets. iIm confident now, knowing all the media pundits are playing what they believe to be the safe side bet. Underdogs even with our own reporters? To them all i can say is... SUCK IT! It’s because of several things: the Bell signing, he’s viewed as an elite back; their QB is perceived to be a better passer than our QB currently; past performance - they scored more points than us last year. But it’s entirely your prerogative if you want to ignore these things and whine like a homer and start a thread just to cry SUCK IT. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: Well apparently they have a better QB, and picked up one of the top RBs in the league while the Bills go with a 3rd rounder and 2 guys over 30. On paper the Bills have no #1 WR, just a bunch of decent ones with a few different skillsets. The Bills biggest signing this offseason was on their online and he is one good hit away from spending time on the bench figuring out his name.... I think the Bills will be better, but I understand why the Jets would still be viewed as favorites why is darnold the better qb? ...already? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Maybe because we only have 3 returning starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, JoPar_v2 said: It’s because of several things: the Bell signing, he’s viewed as an elite back; their QB is perceived to be a better passer than our QB currently; past performance - they scored more points than us last year. But it’s entirely your prerogative if you want to ignore these things and whine like a homer and start a thread just to cry SUCK IT. i get it and i'm scared of greggo. but darnold is a sitting duck with our d....so we gonna make a statement early.....i hope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Not getting respect is a mental advantage for the Bills. Enjoy it while it lasts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Curious who these WGR guys might be? I've said elsewhere, I'll say here: at this time of year, the media goes off last year's performance. What else they got to go on? And last year the Jets scored the 23rd most points in the league. The Bills, the 30th. Well, if we go off last year’s performance, why not start with head to head play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 The Jets have more “names” these guys recognize. You hear Darnold, Bell, Mosley, etc etc and say yeah they’re way better than buffalo. We don’t have “names” we have a team. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Never ever listen to WGR, they by and large appear to dislike the Bills, if you listen to them you deserve your angst. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: Never ever listen to WGR, they by and large appear to dislike the Bills, if you listen to them you deserve your angst. Yup. Proud to be WGR-free. Those guys are awful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: i get it and i'm scared of greggo. but darnold is a sitting duck with our d....so we gonna make a statement early.....i hope Haha don’t worry friend greggggg will wear out his welcome after about 8 games. Probably only have to deal with him once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, JoPar_v2 said: Haha don’t worry friend greggggg will wear out his welcome after about 8 games. Probably only have to deal with him once Just now, JoPar_v2 said: Haha don’t worry friend greggggg will wear out his welcome after about 8 games. Probably only have to deal with him once i'm hoping him and gase get into it by week 8....or sooner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Quarterbacking. That’s what I was going to say. I think it basically comes down to Josh Allen vs Sam Darnold. National media and most outside of buffalo are much higher on Darnold. Plus, he was hyped as the next great QB in the year+ leading up to the draft, where as Allen was almost universally trashed. Allen has a lot more to overcome to price people wrong. It’s easy to look for things to prove your opinion right. It’s a lot harder to admit you were wrong, especially some of the draft analysts (etc) that were so adamant Allen was not going to be a successful NFL QB. Even as a Buffalo fan I know that Allen has a lot to prove still, and that Darnold is ahead of him as an accurate passer (and probably on reading defenses and a # of other things. Darnold has received top QB coaching/training for much longer than Josh Allen has) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 56 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: why is darnold the better qb? ...already? He was the higher ranked prospect coming out and outside of Buffalo, the league would view him as the better QB right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Who cares. The game is played on the field not in people's minds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Jumpsuit Jim said: Who cares? Our offense doesn’t play against their offense. 16 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Who cares. The game is played on the field not in people's minds. Me: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Foxx said: i dunno...maybe because most of the national pundits are saying the same thing? it might be true? Worst. Logic. Ever. National media pundits are lazy trash. They also like to kiss NYC butt. 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Who cares. The game is played on the field not in people's minds. Because we like to watch football things, and their stupid is tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Putting any thought into anything from a media/internet type on sports or anything is usually time wasted. Think for yourself.....if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Curious who these WGR guys might be? I've said elsewhere, I'll say here: at this time of year, the media goes off last year's performance. What else they got to go on? And last year the Jets scored the 23rd most points in the league. The Bills, the 30th. I mean, I’d expect them to look at last year but also extrapolate a projection based on the last 6 months of sometimes drastic change to units Edited September 6, 2019 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I think it’s because, generally speaking, people see three things... 1) Darnold is ahead, if only slightly, in his development, than Allen. 2) they see Anderson, Enunwa, Crowder, Bell, Montgomery, and Herndon (when he comes back) as better weapons than Brown, Beasley, Jones, Singeltary, Gore, and Knox/Sweeney/Kroft 3) Bell is still viewed as an elite, game-breaking type of player. The Bills are viewed as not having that type of player. -For the most part I agree with those views. But I do believe we have three things to our advantage 1) Allen’s potential is higher in my estimation than Darnolds, so if they both pan out I believe Allen May end up being the better QB. 2) we invested more properly into our offensive line, giving our young QB a better chance at standing upright for longer. 3) I believe our coaching is better than theirs. The Bills staff is all on the same page. The Jets coaching is a big “?” To me. Gase worked well with Peyton Manning, but that’s like saying how helpful Doug Flutie was to Tom Brady when he was with New England. Other than that he underachieved with an overpaid Miami roster. I also have a lot of faith in Daboll. Somewhere last year I read a stat (this is vague mind you bc I have no source) that the Bills ran the most different formations throughout the season of any team in the league. That tells me he’s not afraid to experiment, which I’m happy to see. Creativity is key in today’s NFL and we finally have an offensive coordinator who believes that and believes in a pass first offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) What gets said at this point doesn’t matter. Pundits can say what they want. They could say we’re either gonna get blown out or steamroll the Jets, or either will win a close game. Point is they know about as much as we do, which is nothing. I read what they say but put absolutely no stock in it. Out of all Bills fans and all pundits from last year, who actually thought Matt Barkley would go in to met life and leave the Jets a pummeled, bloody mess with a much worse O line? Forget who says what and let what happens on Sunday unfold on its own Edited September 6, 2019 by buffalo2218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) Le'Veon Bell. Edited September 6, 2019 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: why is darnold the better qb? ...already? Not so much "already," as "so far." Darnold's the better passer, and that's what will make the difference in the long run. Maybe Allen's caught up ... who knows? ... but until he proves it, it's an extremely reasonable guess. Throw in Le'Veon and an OL that has 4 of 5 guys from last year and they are going to have a lot fewer concerns about gelling than our OL does. Very reasonable guess that the Bills offense won't be as good as theirs, especially so early. Edited September 6, 2019 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) Darnold did beat Allen and the Bills in Buffalo last year so that’s probably part of it along with they have Bell and the media is all over him this year Edited September 6, 2019 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 They have a far better RB than we do, even receivers, and a better perceived QB right now. I don't think it's outrageous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: I don't get it. Is it because they want to get clicks? I'm listening to WGR guys saying this..are you kidding me? Well throw it on because the Karma and the Bills with Josh Allen will hang 40 on the Jets. iIm confident now, knowing all the media pundits are playing what they believe to be the safe side bet. Underdogs even with our own reporters? To them all i can say is... SUCK IT! This was almost the lowest scoring offense in history at one point. We have to prove were better on the field not on paper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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