OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 T.J. Yeldon expects “heated competition” between Bills running backs Posted by Josh Alper on June 27, 2019, 7:08 AM EDT Running back LeSean McCoy said this month that he expects to play the “same role” in the Bills backfield that he has in past seasons, but some of the team’s roster moves suggest they’d be open to a different arrangement. McCoy has been the clear No. 1 back in Buffalo, but had a rough 2018 season before the Bills moved to acquire Frank Gore, T.J. Yeldon and Devin Singletary this offseason. Yeldon said that the team pitched him on the idea of a robust fight for playing time before he signed on as a free agent. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/27/t-j-yeldon-expects-heated-competition-between-bills-running-backs/#comments 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Iron sharpens iron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) Except for a Type I.a Supernova... Edited June 28, 2019 by Ralonzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I really would not write off Yeldon just yet...the guy is a natural pass catcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Any chance we keep McCoy, Gore, Singletary AND Yeldon? Do you guys feel that is at all possible ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Any chance we keep McCoy, Gore, Singletary AND Yeldon? Do you guys feel that is at all possible ? Of course that’s possible. Is it wise? That’s debatable. I have liked Yeldon since he was at Bama but he gets nicked up a lot. The old guys will be hurt at one point or another. That leaves the bulk of the work to a guy coming from a tiny college program. If they are set on keeping Shady/Gore I suppose the fourth guy doesn’t matter much because you can find guys similar to Marcus Murphy off the street. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Any chance we keep McCoy, Gore, Singletary AND Yeldon? Do you guys feel that is at all possible ? The only way I see this happening is if Yeldon proves to be more capable at special teams than Sinorise Perry. I would say that's pretty unlikely, as Perry is known as one of the better special teams contributors from the HB position in the entire league. Thus far, in both his first and second season as head coach, McDermott has kept a 4th HB almost solely for special teams purposes. This is going to happen at WR, too. The top 4 sports are locked in with Brown, Foster, Jones, and Beasley. Roberts is also a lock, as he will be the primary KR. That leaves likely only ONE WR spot available at most. McKenzie, McCloud, Williams, Sills, Easley, and Phillips will have to battle for that one spot. If the Bills keep only FIVE WRs, well...there really aren't any spots available on the 53-man roster. McDermott loves him some special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 The offense will have battles in almost all positions for both starters and reserves. It will make for great watching during camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 7 hours ago, Logic said: The only way I see this happening is if Yeldon proves to be more capable at special teams than Sinorise Perry. I would say that's pretty unlikely, as Perry is known as one of the better special teams contributors from the HB position in the entire league. Thus far, in both his first and second season as head coach, McDermott has kept a 4th HB almost solely for special teams purposes. This is going to happen at WR, too. The top 4 sports are locked in with Brown, Foster, Jones, and Beasley. Roberts is also a lock, as he will be the primary KR. That leaves likely only ONE WR spot available at most. McKenzie, McCloud, Williams, Sills, Easley, and Phillips will have to battle for that one spot. If the Bills keep only FIVE WRs, well...there really aren't any spots available on the 53-man roster. McDermott loves him some special teams. The only way I see this happening is if DiMarco is cut and they ax the FB from this offense. It will be interesting to see what Wade does when the pads go on. Physically he is a beast. I can also see Yeldon catching on if Josh gets comfortable throwing to him out of the backfield and as a safety valve. Depending on how the TE's play out TJ has the opportunity to earn some field time with his pass catching ability. He's probably our best threat to catch the ball from the RB position and create yards to move the sticks. Especially if the pressure is on Josh and Daboll is coaching him up to pass first, then run only as necessary. 8 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Any chance we keep McCoy, Gore, Singletary AND Yeldon? Do you guys feel that is at all possible ? I think there is a chance. All depends on how ST plays out and who Daboll feels can contribute most on game days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 It's a welcomed change to have talent and depth at positions so we can have a legit competition. Just a few short years ago this was definitely not the case. Another testament to Beane, McDermott, and what they are doing with this team. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I don’t know why any of these guys spout off before training camp. There is no benefit to it. If Yeldon makes the team, great, but why make claims or statements prior to the competition. One thing in general will be fun is watching in camp all of the competitions especially on the O Line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 13 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Any chance we keep McCoy, Gore, Singletary AND Yeldon? Do you guys feel that is at all possible ? I’d almost say likely, not just possible. Unless the wheels come off one of the old men and you cut him in camp, I’d venture the 4th guy there contributes much more than the 10-11th pass catcher. 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: I don’t know why any of these guys spout off before training camp. There is no benefit to it. If Yeldon makes the team, great, but why make claims or statements prior to the competition. One thing in general will be fun is watching in camp all of the competitions especially on the O Line. You find this answer to an interview question to be spouting off? Do you find bellichick to be overly talkative?!? “That’s a blessing,” Yeldon said, via the Buffalo News. “Coming in my first couple years, I didn’t have vets like that. Being here in this situation, I can learn a lot from those guys. It’s a lot for me to take with me in my future years. It’s going to be a heated competition. That’s one thing they told me coming in. There’s going to be competition regardless.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I would think that management would be expecting both Singletary and Yeldon to be on the 2020 roster, so that might play a factor in the roster decisions for next season. Strong likelihood that McCoy and Gore won't be here in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 4:46 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: T.J. Yeldon expects “heated competition” between Bills running backs Posted by Josh Alper on June 27, 2019, 7:08 AM EDT Running back LeSean McCoy said this month that he expects to play the “same role” in the Bills backfield that he has in past seasons, but some of the team’s roster moves suggest they’d be open to a different arrangement. McCoy has been the clear No. 1 back in Buffalo, but had a rough 2018 season before the Bills moved to acquire Frank Gore, T.J. Yeldon and Devin Singletary this offseason. Yeldon said that the team pitched him on the idea of a robust fight for playing time before he signed on as a free agent. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/27/t-j-yeldon-expects-heated-competition-between-bills-running-backs/#comments Best thing about Yeldon talking is to confirm the front office isn't blind to the fact that McCoy may have lost a step. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 TJ Yeldon won’t be on the opening day roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 6:18 PM, NewDayBills said: Any chance we keep McCoy, Gore, Singletary AND Yeldon? Do you guys feel that is at all possible ? That will happen, but McCoy or Gore could easily go down or just be done during TC. Yeldon’s value as a pass catcher should make him a virtual lock to make the team. And you know Singletary will be here. What’s gonna happen to the old guys is the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, njbuff said: That will happen, but McCoy or Gore could easily go down or just be done during TC. Yeldon’s value as a pass catcher should make him a virtual lock to make the team. And you know Singletary will be here. What’s gonna happen to the old guys is the question No doubt. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 2:01 PM, klos63 said: I would think that management would be expecting both Singletary and Yeldon to be on the 2020 roster, so that might play a factor in the roster decisions for next season. Strong likelihood that McCoy and Gore won't be here in 2020. this might be tough to manage in the short term. they almost need a guy to go on IR yikes ! just to keep him on the team for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I was reading an article on wgr55.com and found something interesting regarding Devin Singletary . Sam Monson from Pro Football Focus was quoted as saying: "Devin Singletary was asked to workout as a wide receiver at the Combine, so some teams had a reason to believe he can be dangerous in the pass game... He was very highly graded by PFF in the college ranks. I like him a lot as a prospect." If true, this changes my mind on the competition. I had McCoy and Frank as 1A and 1B. I had Yeldon ahead of Singletary based on experience, but if he can show good vision, show he can pick up a blitz AND catch the ball out of the backfield, I think he's going to have a bigger role than Yeldon. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/monson-beasley-perfect-way-treat-inaccurate-quarterback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 6:21 AM, machine gun kelly said: I don’t know why any of these guys spout off before training camp. There is no benefit to it. If Yeldon makes the team, great, but why make claims or statements prior to the competition. One thing in general will be fun is watching in camp all of the competitions especially on the O Line. We have the pieces in place to be a mauling O line- lets hope they gel and play at a high level. I would love to see a control the clock, cram the ball down your throat kind of game with 2-3 big plays downfield! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Brandon Beane: 'I think LeSean McCoy can still play' “I’m not concerned. I think LeSean still can play. If not, we would have made the decision to move on,” Beane said speaking to a select group of reporters last month. “He’s very confident, when you talk to him, that he still sees himself up here, and I don’t think you’re changing that. And I wouldn’t want him to think any different. But we’re focused on this year. That’s what we have him under contract for, and I definitely think he’s got enough left in the tank to help us in 2019.” McCoy might have competition around him, but there’s reason to believe Beane’s right. McCoy did have a career-worst 3.2 yards per carry last season. The Bills leading rusher wasn’t even him or a running back, it was quarterback Josh Allen. But while the Bills running backs struggled week-after-week last year, Buffalo did in another area as well. While there’s no solid numbers like touchdowns or interceptions to grade an offensive line on, there is Pro Football Focus. The analytics folks breaking down Bills’ 2018 season graded out Buffalo’s offensive line every week, and for a large chunk of the year, the team’s offensive line graded the team as the second-worst run blockers in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I think we have to be careful not misread what Yeldon said. What he said is that there's going to be heated competition at running back. He said that's what the coach told him. Well, that's what the coach tells everyone. That's the work ethic McD wants the Bills to live by - fight for every inch, pressure the guy who's playing ahead of you and be pressured by the guy who's behind you. That's a matter of course for these Bills, not a commentary on what the coaches might think about who's going to start. I don't think signing Yeldon had anything to with Beane expecting Yeldon to take Shady's job, any more than signing Tyree Jackson suggests the Bills expect him to challenge Josh Allen for the starting job. Yeldon is going to compete because (1) he's a competitor and (2) the Bills want competition. Logic's comments are, as always, interesting. I liked the Yeldon signing, but for 2020, when there's a good chance Shady is gone or Gore has hung 'em up or both. But for 2019, if Singletary shows much of anything, he's making the team. And if Logic is correct about special teams, and it sounds correct, Yeldon has a lot of pressure on him to make the team. And Logic's comments about WR are also interesting. He names four locks, but I don't think there are four locks. I think that only three of the four are locks - three "starters," if you will. The fourth guy (Foster, Jones or Brown, I'd guess) will be threatened by the other guys (McKenzie, McCloud, Williams, Sills, Easley, and Phillips). Williams is an unknown, but he has the pedigree to take the fourth spot, even the third. Sills is an enigma, but if he shows anything special, the Bills won't want to risk sending him to the practice squad. The point is that at those two positions, and definitely at the offensive line, the coaches are looking at more guys with the potential to be contributors on the 53 than they have room for. The message to those guys is "bring it every day, because only the best are making it." Even to Shady and Gore -"bring it or you'll be looking for a job elsewhere." Yeldon already has gotten the message. Shady and Gore have played their entire careers with that mentality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 21 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: We have the pieces in place to be a mauling O line- lets hope they gel and play at a high level. I would love to see a control the clock, cram the ball down your throat kind of game with 2-3 big plays downfield! Amen 34. I’d love to see old school football with the #1 defense run and pass, Int’s up, Sacks and Pressures up (especially Brady) and the #1 run game with #15 pass. That’s a dream I have for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I think this team is going to rebound and destroy teams monstwr year coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 It will come down to Yeldon vs DiMarco IMO. I'm thinking Senorise stays because he is a beast on special teams. That might make DiMarco expendable as well. Singletary will be the main back by years end IMO. His pass catching ability might make Yeldon expendable too. Shady-Gore-Singletary-Senorise is who I have so far. We got down to Keith Ford last year, so I can see us keeping 5. Yeldon pass catching upside vs DiMarco special teams for 5th spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Gore can also play FB, which makes DiMarco's roster spot in serious jeopardy, unless there are injuries, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 6:18 PM, NewDayBills said: Any chance we keep McCoy, Gore, Singletary AND Yeldon? Do you guys feel that is at all possible ? Hopefully McCoy will be shipped off to some team that has a TC/Preseason injury to their #1 RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, MacGyver said: Hopefully McCoy will be shipped off to some team that has a TC/Preseason injury to their #1 RB. don't get your hopes up there pal. he's not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) On 6/28/2019 at 3:46 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: T.J. Yeldon expects “heated competition” between Bills running backs Posted by Josh Alper on June 27, 2019, 7:08 AM EDT Running back LeSean McCoy said this month that he expects to play the “same role” in the Bills backfield that he has in past seasons, but some of the team’s roster moves suggest they’d be open to a different arrangement. McCoy has been the clear No. 1 back in Buffalo, but had a rough 2018 season before the Bills moved to acquire Frank Gore, T.J. Yeldon and Devin Singletary this offseason. Yeldon said that the team pitched him on the idea of a robust fight for playing time before he signed on as a free agent. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/27/t-j-yeldon-expects-heated-competition-between-bills-running-backs/#comments That sounds like a good old competitive, enthusiastic and spirited attitude to me! At least he is saying the things we want to hear! Edited July 20, 2019 by Rocket94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 4:18 PM, NewDayBills said: Any chance we keep McCoy, Gore, Singletary AND Yeldon? Do you guys feel that is at all possible ? This is the way I see it. Bills are keeping 4 RBs/FB. I don't see 3 RBs, a ST'er and a FB. McCoy and Gore will not get a lions share of snaps during camp/preseason. They are long time vets and will work just enough to give Daboll a good sense on how they will play with the new line and Josh Allen. I suspect barring any extraordinary event that both make the team. That leaves 2 spots for the rest. Singletary gets one of them. That's a given but how he looks in camp/preseason with his abilities (especially catching the ball) will effect who the last guy is. So it comes down to 1 slot for remaining 4 RBs/FBs. Yeldon - His primary worth is catching the ball out of the backfield. He may be in next years plans too. Costs 500k to cut. DiMarco - I personally feel the FB is being phased out by Daboll. 1st year under McDermott with only 1 FB in camp. STs could save him but saving 3.4 million (after 1.1 dead) over the next 2 years is also in play. Perry - He is a special teamer and is not a true RB. If he is a ST force he can make the team. Costs 50k to cut him which is nothing. Murphy - Don't see any way he makes the team other than a rash of injuries. Costs nothing to cut. So IMO (barring injuries) it comes down to how well Yeldon plays at RB vs. the worth of a Perry as a difference maker on STs. One scenario I don't see happening is DiMarco and Perry both making the team on STs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: don't get your hopes up there pal. he's not going anywhere. Pal? Just how old are you? " Listen here ya see..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I would guess Yeldon is odd man out. Barring injury. Or someone makes a serious offer for Shady that Bills cannot say no too. For me it will be interesting indeed ho McBeanes handle to issue of too many solid players ate RB and O line Maybe even WR should be challenging to pare down to the 53. Bill have rarely if ever had this problem and wonder how they manage the surplus of decent players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I think if Shady shows he's lost a step in training camp he's either cut or traded. We should've traded him last year. Historically, similar backs with his style of running hit a wall at 30/31 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 8 hours ago, njbuff said: Gore can also play FB, which makes DiMarco's roster spot in serious jeopardy, unless there are injuries, of course. Tommy Sweeney is a bigger threat to DiMarco than anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Unless one of McCoy or Gore implodes, I could see buffalo trainers hiding mats all around Devin Singletary's house with the hopes of saving him for next year. Unless it becomes clear he's going to become a league leader, I don't see him being a necessary piece this year. If the Bills are serious about keeping all of these guys, they've really put themselves in a bind somewhere on this roster. Maybe DiMarco is finally done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 6/30/2019 at 12:48 PM, njbuff said: That will happen, but McCoy or Gore could easily go down or just be done during TC. Yeldon’s value as a pass catcher should make him a virtual lock to make the team. And you know Singletary will be here. What’s gonna happen to the old guys is the question Shady is just as good of a pass catcher when put in that role... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 6:18 PM, NewDayBills said: Any chance we keep McCoy, Gore, Singletary AND Yeldon? Do you guys feel that is at all possible ? Get rid of DiMarco and I am fine keeping all 4. It would be an upgrade because DiMarco offers basically NOTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Here this is perfect HB- Shady, Gore, Yeldon, Singletary, Perry (Special Teams) FB - Zero, None, ZIP. Bills Graduate to Modern Football and fill this role with a TE or OT when needed for short yardage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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