YoloinOhio Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Doubt they trade in division but interesting nonetheless 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Surprisingly (as I’m in the nyc market, and a rival fan) I’ve never paid much attention or heard much about him since he was drafted. Has he lived up to the hype as being the best player in that draft class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, Codyny13 said: Surprisingly (as I’m in the nyc market, and a rival fan) I’ve never paid much attention or heard much about him since he was drafted. Has he lived up to the hype as being the best player in that draft class? No not really. But he’s young and has a lot of potential still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 This would just be a friggin maraschino on that giant Sunday of sadness that is the beginning of the Gase era. Please let it happen. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 He's okay I guess. Not a bad player, definitely will be paid more than he's worth but he's a good player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I have heard of him....get ur done 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 The Jets keep on drafting high-1st round DT's and keep on getting rid of them. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 so their d line goes from absolute beastly to ok. with our new o line we'd be running it down all day. we don't have a need for him but they got a second i think for sheldon richardson. someone will offer that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 This is why it’s so stupid to look at the draft in a vacuum and not on the implications to the whole team. Drafting Q Williams meant Leonard Williams is a Jet for at most another year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I shook my head and was really pissed when the Jets drafted him. I thought he would be a devastating force with Wilkerson and Richardson. And to this point I must say I haven't been impressed with Leonard one bit. Average player who is nowhere near the monster status he was projected to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 You can never have too many good Williamses. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Chew 'em up and spit 'em out - In keeping with their DT sunflower seed philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Darnold and Adams next! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 He is a solid player. The Jets DT's haven't been their issue. Their issue has been the lack of talented de's and cornerbacks. Which will coincidentally be a similar issue this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Geez, Jet fans would really lose their minds if the Bills somehow landed this guy. Gase wouldn’t be able to leave the stadium for anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 38 minutes ago, Doc said: The Jets keep on drafting high-1st round DT's and keep on getting rid of them. It's kind of an issue when you are hyper focused on one position at the top of the draft. They can't get them out of the rookie contract because of how much money it takes to resign them and it would be investing too much at one position. Interestingly enough that is one position I think they can play a long time too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Doubt they trade in division but interesting nonetheless Hmmmm, is there anyone we have available who looked all-world vs Gase and Miami but is otherwise "lukewarm"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, dje85 said: He is a solid player. The Jets DT's haven't been their issue. Their issue has been the lack of talented de's and cornerbacks. Which will coincidentally be a similar issue this year. And yet they draft another DT in the first round this year..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennjay Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 This would be such a Jetsy thing to do. And I predict they'll be thrilled with the 4th round pick they'd get for him, because no one will bid higher for a non-Pro Bowler you can get on your own terms when he's a FA after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 The first domino from the Quinnen Williams draft decision. Would have been better if they had traded L. Williams before the draft. A team like the Bills might have been interested. Now after 6 DTs went in the first round, Jets' compensation will be limited. I am not complaining. There will be other trades the Jets make. There is no way the Jets go into the season with their current roster. Last thing Gase wants is for Maccagnan to get the credit if the Jets do well. Now if the Jets do well, he will take credit for the roster changes. If they dont, he will blame it on Maccagnan's roster build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Seems like a slightly better Shaq Lawson? Which isn’t a bad thing to have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc said: The Jets keep on drafting high-1st round DT's and keep on getting rid of them. The Bills have a history of doing the same. You can't dump players or fire everyone without effecting the stability of the franchise. Used to drive me crazy. Hopefully those days are over... .. Edited May 20, 2019 by HOUSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Darnold and Adams next! Actually - neither Gase or the future GM will have any ties to Darnold and will not have nearly the investment in his success as a regime that drafted him. Of course they will want him to develop because it should help lead to wins, but wins will likely be the priority over commitment to Darnold as the franchise. Don’t be shocked if he’s benched after a few picks or if they draft a QB next year . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Why would you want him? He's been a massive disappointment the last 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennjay Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Doc said: The Jets keep on drafting high-1st round DT's and keep on getting rid of them. Once upon a time you could say this about the Bills and CB's (Antoine Winfield, Nate Clements, . . .), except the Bills didn't get rid of them -- they played out their rookie contracts and then left. Edited May 20, 2019 by Ennjay typo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: I shook my head and was really pissed when the Jets drafted him. I thought he would be a devastating force with Wilkerson and Richardson. And to this point I must say I haven't been impressed with Leonard one bit. Average player who is nowhere near the monster status he was projected to be. It’s almost as if drafting interior defensive linemen high in the first round isn’t the ticket to success in the modern NFL... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, mannc said: It’s almost as if drafting interior defensive linemen high in the first round isn’t the ticket to success in the modern NFL... Never said that and wouldn't go that far but he's definitely had an underwhelming career thus far. 46 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: And yet they draft another DT in the first round this year..... BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Actually - neither Gase or the future GM will have any ties to Darnold and will not have nearly the investment in his success as a regime that drafted him. Of course they will want him to develop because it should help lead to wins, but wins will likely be the priority over commitment to Darnold as the franchise. Don’t be shocked if he’s benched after a few picks or if they draft a QB next year . Yes I have been joking about it tongue in cheek, but Gase ruined Tannehill (not that he was great to begin with), who was there before he got to Miami. So I could see him and his new GM finding their own guy next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, mannc said: It’s almost as if drafting interior defensive linemen high in the first round isn’t the ticket to success in the modern NFL... eagles took fletcher cox at 12 and they won a superbowl. look at the jets draft history. they've ignored other positions with their high picks. this is where bpa gets you in trouble. richardson, williams, nathan shepard in the third last year they had no second rounder, and quinnen this year. doesn't help they've missed a lot of other places as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Good player playing in bad systems for his talent. He is not a traditional 43 DT. Only way I'd be for him is if he played End. Right or left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Actually - neither Gase or the future GM will have any ties to Darnold and will not have nearly the investment in his success as a regime that drafted him. Of course they will want him to develop because it should help lead to wins, but wins will likely be the priority over commitment to Darnold as the franchise. Don’t be shocked if he’s benched after a few picks or if they draft a QB next year . Darnold is an absolute stud. As a football fan, I hope they arent that stupid. As a Bills fan I hope they trade him as far away from the AFCE as possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said: Darnold is an absolute stud. As a football fan, I hope they arent that stupid. As a Bills fan I hope they trade him as far away from the AFCE as possible If he plays like a stud they won’t move on, obviously. If he struggles though, as he did at times last year like most rookies do (and remember he’s learning a new offense and the OL is not strong) it will something to watch for sure. A regime that hand picked a QB and proceeded to build around him with their names fully attached to him will be far more invested in the player than one regime that did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Doc said: The Jets keep on drafting high-1st round DT's and keep on getting rid of them. They Jets are good at spinning their wheels. I remember when we used to do that with CBs and RBs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: This is why it’s so stupid to look at the draft in a vacuum and not on the implications to the whole team. Drafting Q Williams meant Leonard Williams is a Jet for at most another year. OR - it could be said they felt L. Williams was only there for 1 more year anyway and got his replacement- rather than a top quality DE like Allen. The issue is where BPA meets need - meets long term planning. The firing of the GM and the new coaching staff just changed the equation for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCastleFanBills Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Him and Oliver next to one another on passing downs would be an issue to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Jets and Dolphins seem to be taking steps backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bruce Harper Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Codyny13 said: Surprisingly (as I’m in the nyc market, and a rival fan) I’ve never paid much attention or heard much about him since he was drafted. Has he lived up to the hype as being the best player in that draft class? No. He's a solid run-stuffer. A valuable contributor but not the stud we Jets fans had hoped. But maybe playing with Quinnen will free him up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Yes I have been joking about it tongue in cheek, but Gase ruined Tannehill (not that he was great to begin with), who was there before he got to Miami. So I could see him and his new GM finding their own guy next year. You and those who think like you (yes I know there are many but you're all dead wrong) have it backwards. Coaches don't ruin QBs. Bad to mediocre QBs ruin coaches. Tannehill wasn't much before, during, or after Gase. The term coach-killer is appropriate for a QB, the term QB killer is not appropriate since no coach has ever destroyed the career of a good QB. Here's an example of a coach who tried to kill a QB: When Atlanta drafted Brett Favre Jerry Glanville wanted nothing to do with him. In spite of Glanville's attempt to ruin him, Favre got traded & is now in the HOF. No coach can ruin a QB no matter how hard he tries. Edited May 20, 2019 by Albany,n.y. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Boy, It would be so Jetsy to tear down one of the strongest units on the team so they could acquire the draft capital to replace him in a year or two. Go Jests!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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