Phil The Thrill Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I was listening to The Bills Beat podcast with Joe B and Matt Fairborn who were covering rookie minicamp. The most interesting discussion was on Tyree Jackson. The two said that, despite poor weather (wind) Jackson initially was very inconsistent and sloppy on mechanics. He did seem to settle down a bit eventually but that the camp was a reminder as to why he went undrafted....he has a long way to go. Many believe that Jackson simply moves into the #3 QB spot vacated by Derek Anderson’s retirement. However Joe believes that Tyree has a long way to go to earn a spot on the active roster. He thinks that Anderson’s retirement makes it harder for Jackson, because he now has to beat out Matt Barkley for a spot which likely won’t happen given his experience. Because the question is....will Buffalo even keep 3 QB’s on the active roster? In his first two seasons, McDermott has not done. Most recently the Bills traded AJ McCarron rather than keep 3 active QB’s. In 2017, the Bills did keep 3 QB’s but 1 was Joe Webb who contributed mostly on ST’s and was their emergency QB. This begs the question would it give Tyree a better chance to make the Bills if he took a role similar to Joe Webb? He could play special teams or another position while learning QB behind a good mentor like Matt Barkley and even Josh Allen. You know that the Bills value position flexibility and it makes you wonder whether playing ST’s would be the best move for Jackson until he fully develops as a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Sounds good. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Jackson isn’t someone I’d care to waste a roster spot on. I’d put him on the practice squad and continue to try and develop him. I don’t see him ever being a starting QB in the NFL (at least not a good one). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: Jackson isn’t someone I’d care to waste a roster spot on. I’d put him on the practice squad and continue to try and develop him. I don’t see him ever being a starting QB in the NFL (at least not a good one). I would agree with you on never becoming a starter, which is why it makes you wonder whether it’s worth using him as a Joe webb to take advantage of his athletic ability and size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 You mean replace the Joe Webb "Package"? ..Joe was the ultimate weapon..special teams, WR, Snow Game QB.... Can Tyree handle this? What a blessing that would be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Tyree doesn’t play special teams and fumbles the rock a good amount as a runner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 All this from Rookie Camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 He could be our next Joe Webb.. One year and gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 What kind of package were you thinking? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 35 minutes ago, JoeF said: You mean replace the Joe Webb "Package"? ..Joe was the ultimate weapon..special teams, WR, Snow Game QB.... Can Tyree handle this? What a blessing that would be. The Spider. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Actually thought that Tyree had a high ceiling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 57 minutes ago, JoeF said: You mean replace the Joe Webb "Package"? ..Joe was the ultimate weapon..special teams, WR, Snow Game QB.... Can Tyree handle this? What a blessing that would be. I think we really need Dunkirk Don to weigh in on this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Actually thought that Tyree had a high ceiling? Ej Manuel high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I agree with the premise, but them saying that Anderson's retirement makes it HARDER for Jackson to make the team is just idiotic. There's just no way that's true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 A blizzard specialist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Actually thought that Tyree had a high ceiling? People make way too much out of high ceiling or low ceiling . A good football player is a good player nobody thought Brady had a high ceiling ... at that level everybody is super talented and it really is how hard you are Willing to work and grind nobody thought Kyle Williams had a 5x pro bowler ceiling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I'm sorry, is the "next Joe Webb" supposed to be something we aspire to?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 lol, a thread about "the next Joe Web". Put him on the wall too @Gugny? ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I am all about the package. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: People make way too much out of high ceiling or low ceiling . A good football player is a good player nobody thought Brady had a high ceiling ... at that level everybody is super talented and it really is how hard you are Willing to work and grind nobody thought Kyle Williams had a 5x pro bowler ceiling Seems you are agreeing with my original sentiments.. Im hoping Tyree can turn out more like Brady or Kyle and less like Joe Webb Edited May 14, 2019 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 He is slated for the PS, unless he really impresses during OTAs and Camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: lol, a thread about "the next Joe Web". Put him on the wall too @Gugny? ? Wow... such insight. Thanks for your contribution to this thread 7 hours ago, MJS said: I agree with the premise, but them saying that Anderson's retirement makes it HARDER for Jackson to make the team is just idiotic. There's just no way that's true. The argument is that with Anderson on the roster they were highly considering keeping 3 QB’s on the 53 man roster. With him gone, it’s no longer a consideration. It’s not a guarantee that they’ll keep 3 QB’s anymore. Anderson has to prove he’s good enough to warrant a spot on the 53, over another position Edited May 14, 2019 by Phil The Thrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If Jackson demonstrates that he can master the mental part of playing QB he would be a tremendous asset to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 That’s a good projection for a rookie qb. The next QB that ended up being a kick returner because he couldn’t throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I thought for sure this thread would bring Dunkirk Donny out of hiding. He loved talking about how each week would be the one where the spider web package would be unleashed. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: Wow... such insight. Thanks for your contribution to this thread The argument is that with Anderson on the roster they were highly considering keeping 3 QB’s on the 53 man roster. With him gone, it’s no longer a consideration. It’s not a guarantee that they’ll keep 3 QB’s anymore. Anderson has to prove he’s good enough to warrant a spot on the 53, over another position Anytime. That's about all it deserved when it's comparing someone to Joe ***** Webb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Actually thought that Tyree had a high ceiling? ..."Wildcat II" cometh........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) Not the same skillset as Taysom Hill, but can he block or catch? At his height, bring him in at RB, WR, or TE on the goal line and set up a couple of of other special plays where he has a RPO after the ball is either handed off or thrown backward to him. Why did that not post properly? See if this is easier to read: Not the same skillset as Taysom Hill, but can he block or catch? At his height, bring him in at RB, WR, or TE on the goal line and set up a couple of other special plays where he has a RPO after the ball is either handed off or thrown backward to him. Edited May 14, 2019 by Minotaur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 The only reason why people here have any interest in the situation is because he played for UB. The guy should have stayed in college for another year and worked on developing himself. It is highly unlikely that he will end up with a notable career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) If I had a dollar for the countless sports articles and threads with this tiresome approach: ......I still wouldn't pay to subscribe to the Buffalo News/Blitz, the Athletic, ESPN+, etc., etc. Edited May 14, 2019 by I am the egg man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Could showing Tyrees package as a rookie hurt his development? Joe W was/is a veteran when we asked him to show his pkg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Because we need another Joe Webb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Anytime. That's about all it deserved when it's comparing someone to Joe ***** Webb. If you read the original post, I wasn’t the one who made the comparison. But why let the truth get in the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: All this from Rookie Camp? ...and in mediocre weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: ...and in mediocre weather. Hear for yourself https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1126958523001266177?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Bad idea - he needs to learn to play QB first. If he can do that, then other doors open. I may be wrong but I did not understand he was an uber athletic talent - just big and strong, not fast/quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Were we supposed to hear the OP out for this one? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I think PS is the most likely spot for Tyree at this point. The PS is not a life sentence, however. If he can work on his craft and get his fundamentals nailed down at least somewhat better, then maybe we can talk about versatility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Might work with Chan's Wild Cat! Let's see how he does in training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 12 hours ago, KD in CA said: I'm sorry, is the "next Joe Webb" supposed to be something we aspire to?? I thought it was just me. I'm used to fellow Bills fans waiting for the next Jim Kelly. Never really expected calls for the next Joe Webb. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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