RD 3, Pick 74: RB Devin Singletary, Florida Atlantic

[HappyDays]

22 hours ago, Mango said:

 

He was credited with 4 drops on 10 targets last season...

 

I can't find this recorded anywhere. Where did you get this from?

[Mango]

21 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I can't find this recorded anywhere. Where did you get this from?

Mentioned it on the one of the prospect videos I watched. I’ll have to dig up which one it was. His targets went down every year, deducted it was because he only caught 6-10 his senior year. 

[davspo]

If you don’t like this pick then you clearly have not watched the film-  looks like A young Shady- elusive, compact, powerful, tackle breaker- 

[LSHMEAB]

4 minutes ago, davspo said:

If you don’t like this pick then you clearly have not watched the film-  looks like A young Shady- elusive, compact, powerful, tackle breaker- 

Shady is only one of those four adjectives (elusive), so I don't get the comparison.

 

It's entirely possible to watch the film and still not like the pick. That doesn't mean he won't pan out, but it's a little silly to dismiss divergent opinions because you personally liked what you saw.

[davspo]

Just now, LSHMEAB said:

Shady is only one of those four adjectives (elusive), so I don't get the comparison.

 

It's entirely possible to watch the film and still not like the pick. That doesn't mean he won't pan out, but it's a little silly to dismiss divergent opinions because you personally liked what you saw.

Easy there fella- just giving my 2 cents

[Lurker]

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fau-owls/fl-sp-devin-singletary-drafted-20190426-story.html

 

Good read...

[Protocal69]

51 minutes ago, Mango said:

Mentioned it on the one of the prospect videos I watched. I’ll have to dig up which one it was. His targets went down every year, deducted it was because he only caught 6-10 his senior year. 

I did just read that Devin Singletary  did have a 40% drop rate. His target share was 8% which is on the medium side of HB. 

 

With that being said I do like the pick. Catching he should be able to get better at on the Juggs machine

 

 

Edited April 28, 2019 by Protocal69

[buffalobillswin]

Best part about this pick is that hopefully we can get rid of Shady now.

[MakeBuffaloGreatAgain]

54 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Shady is only one of those four adjectives (elusive), so I don't get the comparison.

 

It's entirely possible to watch the film and still not like the pick. That doesn't mean he won't pan out, but it's a little silly to dismiss divergent opinions because you personally liked what you saw.

Brian Westbrook type?

[Tcali]

15 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said:

Best part about this pick is that hopefully we can get rid of Shady now.

...shady will get 10-15 carries---which is what a speed and moves type RB should get at this stage of his career.Gore will get 10-15 because he has proven that he is still effective at an advanced age.Singletary and the other guy they picked up in FA will get 10 touches as well. ...Unless Singletary really shines

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

Just now, Tcali said:

...shady will get 10-15 carries---which is what a speed and moves type RB should get at this stage of his career.Gore will get 10-15 because he has proven that he is still effective at an advanced age.Singletary and the other guy they picked up in FA will get 10 touches as well. ...Unless Singletary really shines

 

Cant wait for us to run the ball 40 times a game! 

 

Why did we even draft a QB?

[LSHMEAB]

1 minute ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said:

Brian Westbrook type?

I like that comp. They have a very similar running style. What I'd like to see is DS develop the type of receiving skills as a Westbrook. It's just really odd how infrequently Devin was used as an outlet out of the backfield. Let's just hope is was either by design or something that can be improved with experience.

[Tcali]

Just now, Chemical said:

 

Cant wait for us to run the ball 40 times a game! 

 

Why did we even draft a QB?

the key word is touches the 4th RB will get mostly passes. so 28-30 is reasonable.Allen isnt the best accurate pocket passer type

[Lurker]

https://www.rotoworld.com/article/evaluations/nfl-draft-rb-deep-dive?page=1

 

"Motor is also a skilled receiver — you’ll have to return to 2017 to see it, as FAU’s offense lost all its creative chutzpah this past season when Lane Kiffin was replaced by Charlie Weis’ 24-year-old son and receiving was yanked from Motor’s list of things to do" 

 

[Foxx]

On 4/26/2019 at 10:09 PM, Teddy KGB said:

I like a lot of this 

 

 

thanks.

 

it would appear that his best attribute is his vision. also that he possesses the natural talent ability to have his body do and go where his vision says. i would also say that he is a one cut and hit the hole runner, more North/South than Shady is. if he can translate that to the NFL level, look out. 

[Tcali]

4 minutes ago, Foxx said:

thanks.

 

it would appear that his best attribute is his vision. also that he possesses the natural talent ability to have his body do and go where his vision says. i would also say that he is a one cut and hit the hole runner, more North/South than Shady is. if he can translate that to the NFL level, look out. 

he does that brilliant cut/shake before he hits the line(without slowing down). sets everything up.

[ColoradoBills]

It sounds like Devin Singletary MAY have an issue in the receiving department.

If true it will be something he needs to work on a lot this summer.

He will have 2 of the better Running Back Receivers to help him improve.

 

Oh I forgot, a 21 year old rookie football player cannot improve.

I've heard that here. 

[3rdand12]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

It sounds like Devin Singletary MAY have an issue in the receiving department.

If true it will be something he needs to work on a lot this summer.

He will have 2 of the better Running Back Receivers to help him improve.

 

Oh I forgot, a 21 year old rookie football player cannot improve.

I've heard that here. 

If i was Devin i might have to become a regular church goer if he is not already ( yes i know he might be busy Sundays) lol
But to be mentored by two potential pro bowlers and one of them is surely a Pro's pro for sure, if not both of them.
 blessed to be learning behind his Learned Elders : )

[Foxx]

13 minutes ago, Tcali said:

he does that brilliant cut/shake before he hits the line(without slowing down). sets everything up.

something like, Le'Veon Bell?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

It sounds like he is perfectly capable of being one, they just didn’t use him as such last year at FAU. 

...think there was a similar knock about Houston not using Oliver effectively as well....easily correctable IMO....

[LSHMEAB]

28 minutes ago, Lurker said:

https://www.rotoworld.com/article/evaluations/nfl-draft-rb-deep-dive?page=1

 

"Motor is also a skilled receiver — you’ll have to return to 2017 to see it, as FAU’s offense lost all its creative chutzpah this past season when Lane Kiffin was replaced by Charlie Weis’ 24-year-old son and receiving was yanked from Motor’s list of things to do" 

 

Interesting read.

 

He didn't put up great numbers as a receiver in 2016/2017, but he did catch 19 and 26 passes respectively with a modest YPC.

 

The 6 receptions is an eye opener, but this is a reasonable explanation.

[ColoradoBills]

16 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

If i was Devin i might have to become a regular church goer if he is not already ( yes i know he might be busy Sundays) lol
But to be mentored by two potential pro bowlers and one of them is surely a Pro's pro for sure, if not both of them.
 blessed to be learning behind his Learned Elders : )

 

Shady and Frank will only touch the ball a few times in Preseason.

We all will see a lot of Devin in those games.

I'm looking forward to see if he can duplicate what he has done to the NFL.

 

You're right about being blessed.  Having those guys is a dream for a rookie.

 

Welcome to Buffalo Devin and Good Luck!

[Bookie Man]

I think he's a capable receiver. He caught the ball well at the combine. And it's weird, watching his highlights he didn't catch one screen pass. I think it's more offense design than anything. 

[billsfan89]

This is an OK Pick in my mind, a definite depth need as Shady and Gore don't have many years left and Yeldon is at best a good third down back. I am not sure if this is good value or not and I generally would have preferred to trade up for a receiver or TE. I loved the first two pick but I think this one is just OK. 

[3rdand12]

29 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

This is an OK Pick in my mind, a definite depth need as Shady and Gore don't have many years left and Yeldon is at best a good third down back. I am not sure if this is good value or not and I generally would have preferred to trade up for a receiver or TE. I loved the first two pick but I think this one is just OK. 

you surely knew they would pick youth at RB at some point ? They had to.

[Misterbluesky]

I really liked Murphy,tough runner,big thighs and tough to bring down on the first tackle.Somebody will be him up once he's released.

[Kelly the Dog]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

https://www.rotoworld.com/article/evaluations/nfl-draft-rb-deep-dive?page=1

 

"Motor is also a skilled receiver — you’ll have to return to 2017 to see it, as FAU’s offense lost all its creative chutzpah this past season when Lane Kiffin was replaced by Charlie Weis’ 24-year-old son and receiving was yanked from Motor’s list of things to do" 

 

Thanks for that. Stats are often worthless without context and that makes sense.

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

you surely knew they would pick youth at RB at some point ? They had to.

 

I think most of us would have been ok with a RB in the latter rounds.  A 3rd Round Pick.... this guy better be the real deal. 

 

Edited April 28, 2019 by SCBills

[Mojo44]

21 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I think most of us would have been ok with a RB in the latter rounds.  A 3rd Round Pick.... this guy better be the real deal. 

 

I agree completely! But I am also expecting to be pleasantly surprised.There are a lot of appealing things about this pic despite some limitations. Gotta love his touchdown production in college.

[Augie]

I get upset when guys fly up in a draft because of measurable from the Combine, so I guess I can’t be too upset if a guy doesn’t drop like a brick. I know it matters to some degree, but the film looks pretty impressive. What do I know, so I’ll wait and see. 

 

PLUS, it made @Kirby Jackson happy, so that’s a good thing. I’ll trust his judgment (for now.....but the angry mob will be coming with torches and pitchforks if he’s not a Pro Bowler as a rookie......it’s a tough crowd here!) 

[billsfan89]

18 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

you surely knew they would pick youth at RB at some point ? They had to.

 

Yes they needed to go RB but I think they could have gone for one in round 4 or 5. I think with Yeldon, Shady, and Gore you can take a developmental guy later. Once again a certain depth need but I would have gone after a pass catcher. 

[Bakin]

From the limited video I’ve seen - I see why they say he has great vision. 

Some of the cuts he makes, WHEN he makes them, are just gold. 

Wonder if that will translate to the Bigs....the competition that FAU faced was pretty whack. 

[Turk71]

4 hours ago, davspo said:

If you don’t like this pick then you clearly have not watched the film-  looks like A young Shady- elusive, compact, powerful, tackle breaker- 

Shady ran the 40 in 4.45, Singletary 4.66. Pretty big difference there. Singletary significantly slower in 3 cone drill, 20 yard shuttle, 10 yd split etc.

Will be interesting to see if his style works against much much quicker and faster competition than he saw at FAU. I am a bit skeptical but hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Edited April 28, 2019 by Turk71

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said:

I really liked Murphy,tough runner,big thighs and tough to bring down on the first tackle.Somebody will be him up once he's released.

 

Isn’t it great when other teams want your castoffs, instead of us building our rosters with guys other teams let go? I know there’s always some of both, but the balance seems to be shifting. I like that! 

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Yes they needed to go RB but I think they could have gone for one in round 4 or 5. I think with Yeldon, Shady, and Gore you can take a developmental guy later. Once again a certain depth need but I would have gone after a pass catcher. 

fair point.

 seems they see something worth working up ?

 Gore and Shady are likely gone next year and they wanted and apprentice. so many say you can find value after the 1st and second rounds .
maybe he is just that.

25 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

Shady ran the 40 in 4.45, Singletary 4.66. Pretty big difference there. Singletary significantly slower in 3 cone drill, 20 yard shuttle, 10 yd split etc.

Will be interesting to see if his style works against much much quicker and faster competition than he saw at FAU. I am a bit skeptical but hope to be pleasantly surprised.

all about vision and intuitive game for those guys. If he can hit the hole and run . and if f he can learn to catch : ) while running !
he has a season to learn

[Mat68]

1 hour ago, Bakin said:

From the limited video I’ve seen - I see why they say he has great vision. 

Some of the cuts he makes, WHEN he makes them, are just gold. 

Wonder if that will translate to the Bigs....the competition that FAU faced was pretty whack. 

Watch FAU vs Oklahoma and UCF.  They have the full games on YouTube.  I understand neither are super elite college defenses.  But both teams have way more talent.  He looks like he is the best player on the field.  His acceleration and vision show through.  I have 0 concerns after watching both games.  I will go as far to say he makes a Cohen type impact on the offense as a rookie.  Basically, what McKenzie did last year but a guy that is more elusive and better runner.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Turk71]

9 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Watch FAU vs Oklahoma and UCF.  They have the full games on YouTube.  I understand neither are super elite college defenses.  But both teams have way more talent.  He looks like he is the best player on the field.  His acceleration and vision show through.  I have 0 concerns after watching both games.  I will go as far to say he makes a Cohen type impact on the offense as a rookie.  Basically, what McKenzie did last year but a guy that is more elusive and better runner.

Against Ok 18 carries 69 yds 3.8 ypc , 26 of those yds on one carry; meaning 17 carries for 43 yds 2.5 ypc on the rest of them. Oklahoma had 25 defenders record at least one tackle which means the entire bench got to play. I am pretty sure he wasn't the best player on the field that day.

[akm0404]

If he ran a 4.50 40, he would have gone in the top 10. 

[dakrider]

This was simply a bad pick due to the fact there were several very good WR's on the board here!  Singletary is undersized and not fast.