Punching Bag Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 11 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: Good thing they all can catch. After snagging 26 passes in 2016, Singletary had only nine receptions last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 i didn't read every page but, i'm curious...where do we go from here? am i supposed to believe we go into the season with all or even most of these backs? does beane have something up his sleeve for today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, SCBills said: We’ll see.. his short burst looks good to me. That’s far more important in getting to the edge than breakaway speed, which the combine says he lacks even though “game speed” keeps being referenced as indicating otherwise. Good point on Allen, as I’m sure teams would be hesitant to do that after Josh keeps the read option and busts a 30 yard run to the outside. I went through and watch most of his in game carries and I could only find like a maximum of like 20 instances where he bounced all the way around to the outside, and that’s against small schools. Almost all of his carries were between the linemen. If I’m drafting a RB in the top 3 rounds, they better be able to bounce it outside and between the linemen as well as catch the ball. This guy is going to be relegated to 1st and 2nd down carries and maybe red zone touches due to his knack at finding the end zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 11 hours ago, 100DollarBills said: Against who? Players that aren't even getting drafted? Majority of players in college are not drafted no matter what conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, Limeaid said: Majority of players in college are not drafted no matter what conference. Yeah but we are talking about Bethune friggen Cookman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: So we sign 3 rbs to million dollar plus deals only to draft an RB in the 3rd? As much as like the first 2 picks, I kinda hate this. I feel there is an outdated thought process to our team with offense. This guy has to be special (Tarik Cohen) to justify this in the 3rd. If he ends up being a KR or change of pace back, it’s a bad pick. Jaylon Ferguson or the 3 guys immediately drafted after DS would have been better picks IM0. As annoying as he is and how he has a lot of things handed to him, Kiffin is a really good offensive coach. Only yeldons under contract after this year. The draft is as much about the future as it is about plug and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 11 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: This might be a killer fantasy pick boys since we added some beef in the trenches. Not in love with the position but certainly depends on if he can revitalize the rushing game cause we absolutely need him as a home run hitter or a new and improved Shady Hedging the risk here I suppose. Don't really care much for Ivory on the roster. Well Ivory was released so you should be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Only yeldons under contract after this year. The draft is as much about the future as it is about plug and play. Fair. I just think with so many needs and how many rbs they are always available, a small rb in the 3rd isn’t the best use of a pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Fair. I just think with so many needs and how many rbs they are always available, a small rb in the 3rd isn’t the best use of a pick. Wasn’t Ferguson available? If so I would have selected him instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 100DollarBills said: I went through and watch most of his in game carries and I could only find like a maximum of like 20 instances where he bounced all the way around to the outside, and that’s against small schools. Almost all of his carries were between the linemen. If I’m drafting a RB in the top 3 rounds, they better be able to bounce it outside and between the linemen as well as catch the ball. This guy is going to be relegated to 1st and 2nd down carries and maybe red zone touches due to his knack at finding the end zone. I do agree with you on what you’d like in a RB drafted that high. I’m also still a bit perplexed we went RB at all. I just think the Bills want a north/south runner for a power blocking scheme. He’s certainly that. As far as receiving and blocking, it doesn’t seem they asked him to do much of that so we’ll have to see if it’s in his skill set...and I’d agree, for where he was drafted, it better be. Edited April 27, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Any concerns I had were quickly dispelled when I watch his games vs Oklahoma and UCF. Teams and defense vastly superior in talent he popped off the screen. Edited April 27, 2019 by Mat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, Toesy said: I would say the guy's speed is comparable to Thurman Thomas-shiftiness is more important in the NFL-if you are going to try to outrun NFL defenses around the corner you literally have to have Spiller speed usually. Except NFL defenses are a lot faster in 2019 than they were during Thurman's era. LBs especially, who more frequently are running in the 4.4s and 4.5s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, 100DollarBills said: Wasn’t Ferguson available? If so I would have selected him instead. I would have loved them. I’ve been on him for awhile. All time sack leader to go with Oliver represents much more value than a RB IMo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Any concerns I hand were quickly dispelled when I watch his games vs Oklahoma and UCF. Teams and defense vastly superior in talent he popped off the screen. He was held near the LOS most of the game until a late garbage time score. I understand that the Oline is inferior compared to the OU d-line, but I didn’t come away as impressed as you are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 If we took rb i wanted Henderson but after Henderson was gonna i wanted WR Butler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Any concerns I hand were quickly dispelled when I watch his games vs Oklahoma and UCF. Teams and defense vastly superior in talent he popped off the screen. I hear you on UCF but Oklahoma had one of the worst defenses in college football. I think they were 114. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Except NFL defenses are a lot faster in 2019 than they were during Thurman's era. LBs especially, who more frequently are running in the 4.4s and 4.5s. Yeah i agree. Almost nobody gets around the edge in the pros. Its all about the quickness, vision and decison making. He looks fun this kid. I like fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, 100DollarBills said: He was held near the LOS most of the game until a late garbage time score. I understand that the Oline is inferior compared to the OU d-line, but I didn’t come away as impressed as you are. Yeah, I went to check on it but OU’s defense sucked last year. https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22/p3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Fair. I just think with so many needs and how many rbs they are always available, a small rb in the 3rd isn’t the best use of a pick. I think they saw value on the board. They clearly weren't tremendously high on the wideouts - hence signing two free agents and drafting a tight end and back instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 This pick is what good teams do, draft a replacement a year before the opening. In saying that, what the heck are the Bills doing bringing another RB onto the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Any concerns I hand were quickly dispelled when I watch his games vs Oklahoma and UCF. Teams and defense vastly superior in talent he popped off the screen. Agreed! His team was badly outmatched on the line. I didn't see one play where his oline won. Not one. But he kept making things happen. That run at 1:09 is a thing of beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Yeah, I went to check on it but OU’s defense sucked last year. https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22/p3 Which is even more troubling. Still though, a terrible big school program defense is still more physical than a most players from Fl Atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Yawn. CJ Spiller ultra-light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 For all the chatter of too slow or too much workload .. please compare Devin (CUSA player) to Kareem (a MAC player) .. yes Hunt is bigger but just saying I see some of the following knocks on Singletary 40 YARD Dash - 4.62 for Hunt vs 4.66 for Devin (but Devin can't outrun defenders .. damn that .04 seconds) Didn't play against top flight competition ... MAC vs C-USA ..let's agree a push (all love to UB aside) Used too much .. last year of college .. each had 260ish carries Both picked in the 3rd round One can only hope (sans the Hunt Hotel incident) that maybe just maybe we got something like the Chiefs got in the 3rd http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/kareem-hunt?id=2557917 Draft Review comments for Hunt Bottom Line Big back with plus vision and enough elusiveness to make the first defender miss. Feel for the rushing lane helps him choose the correct path between the tackles but lacks the burst to turn the 4-yard run into 14. Zone-scheme runner with serviceable hands out of the backfield. Adequate in most areas and has talent to become a backup that can step in and handle a bigger load if needed. Devin Review Comments https://www.nfl.com/prospects/devin-singletary?id=32195349-4e18-6919-d1e6-003f4632ba87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Yawn. CJ Spiller ultra-light. How do you come to that comparison? Spiller was a speed-demon who kicked it outside often. He had decent bulk. He was more of an out of the backfield threat than a #1 RB. Singletary is knocked for lack of speed, bulk and pass catching production. Singletary actually shows power and uses the middle of the field very well, which is why he scored three times the number of TDs Spiller did in college. I mean, yeah, they both have/had sick spin moves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 The guy appears to have great balance-that is why he is able to break tackles so easily-what I do like is a lot of his stuff-like that run at 1.09 seems to be effortless-he made that tackler seem like a little kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, 100DollarBills said: He will be a limited RB in the NFL, once teams figure out how to contain him up the middle, he’s finished because he doesn’t have enough speed to make it around the outside. Does that mean any back that doesn't run 4.5 or better is a "limited" back and will be "finished" bc they can't get outside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Not a fan of this pick. Prove me wrong Devin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Yawn. CJ Spiller ultra-light. Don't get the Spiller comp here. CJ was a blazer with bad vision and poor tackle breaking ability. DS has elite vision, balance and had 93 broken tackles last season. Saquon Barkley had 94 the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I do not like this pick, moreso after we signed TJ Sheldon, but I understand why we did it. If one of the vetarn RBs we have on the team is catched up by father time, we have a reasonable, productive RB to step up and help the team. Big if. His highlights look impressive, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: Some of you guys must work for Bills PR dept, every pick you love. This draft will end up getting both Sean and Beane fired, this RB ran about a 4.7, ok to be small if you are the fastest guy on the field. He will never be that in the NFL Some of you guys must work for opposition press, every pick you hate but I blame the water affecting children during development. Neither will be fired over this draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 IMO the 40 time is a big deal for a CB or kick returner but that is about it-people forget that a lot of these kids train specifically for the 40 with sprint coaches-there is a link between 40 speed and real game speed but they aren't the same thing-for a great 40 time your sprint start is really important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, R Y G A R said: Don't get the Spiller comp here. CJ was a blazer with bad vision and poor tackle breaking ability. DS has elite vision, balance and had 93 broken tackles last season. Saquon Barkley had 94 the year before. Inferior competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I think we're going to love this kidd! Man look at his interview... I love interviews its speaks volumes about the player sometimes Watch "RB Devin Singletary joins NFL Total Access Today" on YouTubehttps://youtu.be/5UNXenQKz74 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 12 hours ago, DC Tom said: Interesting. He's got great balance, patience, and vision. And he's a fast little mother. But he looks small, and in most of those highlights he's getting great blocking. There's little there to show off any power or strength he may or may not have. Based solely on those...he looks like a third-down back. He could be successful in the NFL, behind a line that blows defenses off the line - which makes the Ford pick interesting, as well. Based on his build, though...doesn't look like an RB that's going to have a very long career. He is NOT a power back, he is opposite of Ivory. Blocking which should work for McCoy should work for him although I do not think he will be that good and he will need a 2nd back to share touches or he will wear down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I think Shady gets dealt for a ham sandwich and Yeldon and Gore carry the load while Singletary is groomed to take over as our bell cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Nelius said: Fired?! Come on dude, you're clearly pushing the other extreme and can't be taken seriously yourself if that's your reaction to this draft Don't harp on him, it is the Niagara water. It is like harping on schooling on kids who were born in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I think Shady gets dealt for a ham sandwich and Yeldon and Gore carry the load while Singletary is groomed to take over as our bell cow. Im not in favor of dealing shady unless we’re getting an impact player. I think shady has a bounce back year. Better line, better passing game (hopefully) should mean good things for shady. Question is whether he has gas in the tank for another season. I’m not giving up on him though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 12 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: Seems to work, led the nation in broken tackles and yards after contact (and in TDs). The good thing is he is not a fumbler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Limeaid said: He is NOT a power back, he is opposite of Ivory. Blocking which should work for McCoy should work for him although I do not think he will be that good and he will need a 2nd back to share touches or he will wear down. ...is the initial Sproules comparison potentially an accurate (sure it's premature) one?............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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