Rocket94 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: This is why I didn't like our 3rd round. Too many good DE/Edge players left. It really has nothing to do with D Singletary or the RB need. It's clear to anyone who knows football that DE/Edge is a need this year, that 4 guys in those positions were picked within 20-30 picks of this pick and that RB wasn't. Trading back to 3 and taking a development TE didn't help. Well I only like the 3rd round because It potentially improves the team in those areas. I am defensive minded...after Ford, I would have shifted back to defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: Well I only like the 3rd round because It potentially improves the team in those areas. I am defensive minded...after Ford, I would have shifted back to defense. Then we agree 4 good DE/Edge players taken within the next 32 picks. After that Buffalo would have had 2 4ths to pick up help at RB/TE/LB/S Buffalo took LB in the 5th S in the 6th leaving 2 4th round picks to get a RB and TE, after adding a true DE/Edge prospect Edited April 28, 2019 by RocCityRoller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I know...it was painful to watch! ha! So we do know that it is on the Bills minds. Going to be interesting to see how they address it...it has to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Then we agree 4 good DE/Edge players taken within the next 32 picks. After that Buffalo would have had 2 4ths to pick up help at RB/TE/LB/S Buffalo took LB in the 5th S in the 6th leaving 2 4th round picks to get a RB and TE, after adding a true DE/Edge prospect Our RB and TE wouldn’t be there in the 4th, and would most likely be playing up in Foxboro (if you read the tea leaves). Vosean Joseph is a potential stud linebacker who had a 3-4th Round draft projection. We would’ve drafted him under either scenario so no harm, no foul. We couldve taken say, Jaylon Ferguson, but would’ve ended up with the Jets type TE - Wesco, and not a guy who has TE1 potential. Not saying you’re wrong, but there’s very real tradeoffs in player skill at RB/TE were we to wait until the 4th. Edited April 28, 2019 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 We will know fairly soon if this kid is an NFL back. Beane did leave some nice prospects on the board to draft him. I have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Protocal69 said: Poor receiver? Show me the drops please. I’m waiting. I did something crazy and looked up some facts. Devin had 51 receptions in his career but only 6 his last season. The entire FAU backfield only had 16 receptions last year. 12 hours ago, SCBills said: Lol, people are just saying stuff now. I’m perplexed by the pick but pretty soon Singletary will be a 5’2 back, who ran a 5.0/40 and was born without thumbs. "born without thumbs" That's Gold Jerry Gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: I still don't like Buffalo's third round. This is what reaching smells like. I have no problems with D Singletary as a player, I hope he does well and makes me eat crow his whole career. I have no problems with OBD drafting a RB in the mid rounds. I just don't like this pick in this position given what other players were available. Specifically: Edge: Jaylon Ferguson (my favorite of this bunch) EDGE: Chase Winovich DE/Edge: Maxx Crosby DE: Anthony Nelson TE: Jace Sternberger S: Will Harris S: Mike Edwards G: Conner McGovern G: Ben Powers G: Phil Haynes LB: Bobby Okerke WR: Hakeem Butler all positions of need taken in 3-4 after this pick Plenty of good RB option taken later too, run on RBs didn't happen until late 3rd to 4th. Damien Harris Bryce Love Justice Hill Dexter Williams Ryquell Armstead Those were mostly guys in the 3-4th round range. This pick and Dawsn Knox.... a lot of value left for an undersized and slow guy, and a development guy. I hope I am wrong I guess McBean had him ranked the highest on his board , and since we’re on the subject of eating crows I hope nobody eats more ( CROW ) then me about the Oliver pick , Edited April 28, 2019 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: This is why I didn't like our 3rd round. Too many good DE/Edge players left. It really has nothing to do with D Singletary or the RB need. It's clear to anyone who knows football that DE/Edge is a need this year, that 4 guys in those positions were picked within 20-30 picks of this pick and that RB wasn't a need here. Trading back to the 3rd and taking a development TE didn't help. Last time I checked our D was pretty good last year......you act like it needs to be fixed. It does not.....we lost Meatball and 3 tech was a need.....we replaced that need......relax till you actually have something to worry about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Rocket94 said: I know...Winovich. Now he is in New England. And I thought I read here that he’s already been selected to the NFL hall of fame. 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Last time I checked our D was pretty good last year......you act like it needs to be fixed. It does not.....we lost Meatball and 3 tech was a need.....we replaced that need......relax till you actually have something to worry about Some people will find a way to complain about winning the lotto. Oh, but the taxes!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-troop Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Carries: 25 Yards: 131 Avg: 5.2 TDs: 3 Most physical I've seen him play. Very impressive game. I feel like he gets better as the field gets shorter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 9 hours ago, GreggTX said: I've been looking into this guy some more. I don't think he can be elite because of his speed, but he can be effective. We'll still need to add a RB next year, but RB by committee can work. He's small and slow, but doesn't go down easily. His speed is just enough to get by. Very elusive. Have you watched him play? He looks like a lot fater his 4.6 40 time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 8 hours ago, SCBills said: Dawson Knox probably would be too if we didn’t draft him. They traded out immediately after we jumped them and took him. Same could be said for Singletary as NE went Harris shortly after. If New England took them they would be geniuses though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: I still don't like Buffalo's third round. This is what reaching smells like. I have no problems with D Singletary as a player, I hope he does well and makes me eat crow his whole career. I have no problems with OBD drafting a RB in the mid rounds. I just don't like this pick in this position given what other players were available. Specifically: Edge: Jaylon Ferguson (my favorite of this bunch) EDGE: Chase Winovich DE/Edge: Maxx Crosby DE: Anthony Nelson TE: Jace Sternberger S: Will Harris S: Mike Edwards G: Conner McGovern G: Ben Powers G: Phil Haynes LB: Bobby Okerke WR: Hakeem Butler all positions of need taken in 3-4 after this pick Plenty of good RB option taken later too, run on RBs didn't happen until late 3rd to 4th. Damien Harris Bryce Love Justice Hill Dexter Williams Ryquell Armstead Those were mostly guys in the 3-4th round range. This pick and Dawsn Knox.... a lot of value left for an undersized and slow guy, and a development guy. I hope I am wrong Anyone who thinks Singletary is slow needs to stop looking at tables of statistics and actually watch him play 10 hours ago, GreggTX said: I've been looking into this guy some more. I don't think he can be elite because of his speed, but he can be effective. We'll still need to add a RB next year, but RB by committee can work. He's small and slow, but doesn't go down easily. His speed is just enough to get by. Very elusive. Go and actually watch him play. He plays plenty quick enough. Did he run quick in shorts, in a straight line? Not really. But he plays quick which is actually what matters. He simply isn't slow. Edited April 28, 2019 by Mountain Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Rampage said: A third round pick thread is almost as big as Ed Oliver's, and 90% of this one isn't even about the player. ?♂️ 91% now...thanks for your contribution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: Anyone who thinks Singletary is slow needs to stop looking at tables of statistics and actually watch him play Go and actually watch him play. He plays plenty quick enough. Did he run quick in shorts, in a straight line? Not really. But he plays quick which is actually what matters. He simply isn't slow. ...well the good news is nobody has labeled him a bust.....YET......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Singletary is my favorite pick in the whole draft. I really expect this guy to dominate right away, especially behind this OL. Granted I just watched his highlight videos and glanced at his stats but this guy seems incredible. The production is absolutely there and the tape is there, this guy is so exciting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 57 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...well the good news is nobody has labeled him a bust.....YET......... Don't give them ideas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Singletary is my favorite pick in the whole draft. I really expect this guy to dominate right away, especially behind this OL. Granted I just watched his highlight videos and glanced at his stats but this guy seems incredible. The production is absolutely there and the tape is there, this guy is so exciting. You mean you didn't burst into tears like some people because we signed an RB they had never seen who ran slower than a 4.13 40 yard dash? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Just now, Mountain Man said: You mean you didn't burst into tears like some people because we signed an RB they had never seen who ran slower than a 4.13 40 yard dash? He is just fun. His running style reminds me Darren Sproles and Shady McCoy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: He is just fun. His running style reminds me Darren Sproles and Shady McCoy. I completely agree. I wanted one of him or Myles Gaskin who has similar traits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Running style reminds me of Roger Craig, low short legs and hard to bring down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 12 hours ago, GreggTX said: I've been looking into this guy some more. I don't think he can be elite because of his speed, but he can be effective. We'll still need to add a RB next year, but RB by committee can work. He's small and slow, but doesn't go down easily. His speed is just enough to get by. Very elusive. Insanely quick is better than really fast. For a running back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Insanely quick is better than really fast. For a running back. ...good Lord, PLEASE no "Shaud draws" or "Spiller 'tween the tackles"....THOSE flashbacks are nightmarish.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...good Lord, PLEASE no "Shaud draws" or "Spiller 'tween the tackles"....THOSE flashbacks are nightmarish.......... Ha. Shaud of the dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Reading through this thread, I am curious, if Singletary had every attribute, measurable, and lack of holes if people think he would have lasted until the third round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 His style reminds me of Bell-very sneaky-he doesn't just make the cut and then take it downhill-he is constantly looking for any little opening-uses his blockers really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I’ll admit, for a pick that made me side-eye my tv, I can’t stop watching his highlight film. If his skill translates to the NFL, this dude is going to be must see tv. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-troop Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) "quicker than fast" Crazy fact for the day: Alfred Morris who also graduated from FAU ran a 4.67 40. He's still in the NFL. AND Singletary scored 40+ more touchdowns than him in college and smashed his rushing records. Edited April 28, 2019 by c-troop 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 16 hours ago, BuffAlone said: Beane put himself out there last year for JA and TE. A missed pick on a 3rd round RB don't compare in the slightest Ok? I wasn't talking about Allen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Reading through this thread, I am curious, if Singletary had every attribute, measurable, and lack of holes if people think he would have lasted until the third round? He's a running back, one of the most devalued positions in the NFL. So I don't think it is uncommon to get very good running backs in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, gregor7777 said: Ok? I wasn't talking about Allen... Didn't say you were. Just pointing out that if anything, Beane put himself out there with last year's draft...not this year's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 14 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: I still don't like Buffalo's third round. This is what reaching smells like. I have no problems with D Singletary as a player, I hope he does well and makes me eat crow his whole career. I have no problems with OBD drafting a RB in the mid rounds. I just don't like this pick in this position given what other players were available. Specifically: Edge: Jaylon Ferguson (my favorite of this bunch) EDGE: Chase Winovich DE/Edge: Maxx Crosby DE: Anthony Nelson TE: Jace Sternberger S: Will Harris S: Mike Edwards G: Conner McGovern G: Ben Powers G: Phil Haynes LB: Bobby Okerke WR: Hakeem Butler all positions of need taken in 3-4 after this pick Plenty of good RB option taken later too, run on RBs didn't happen until late 3rd to 4th. Damien Harris Bryce Love Justice Hill Dexter Williams Ryquell Armstead Those were mostly guys in the 3-4th round range. This pick and Dawsn Knox.... a lot of value left for an undersized and slow guy, and a development guy. I hope I am wrong Are you really upset that they got their RB in the mid third when the “run started in the late third” (of course ignoring that we and Chicago both picked mid 3 rb) For Knox... well, I ascribe this one to the patriots method of finding needs and creating tiers of players. Once you get to the last guy in the tier you have to try to go get him. They clearly took a need but they waited until just before a perceived drop which is the way to do it if going for need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) I feel like this thread is destined to be re-visited next year a la the Josh Allen draft thread with many mea culpas from people about their ridiculously negative initial hot takes. If you look at one highlight you can see the whining about the 40 time is ridiculous. "Slow"? Give me a break. How many runs in the NFL start from a sprinters stance and go in a straight line untouched. Zero. The most important thing is to have vision and quickness to even get to the second level - and then have elusiveness and balance and strength once you get there. He has all of these. As someone mentioned, oh boy so maybe worst case we'll just have to settle for a bunch of 15-30 yd runs - that really sucks. People whine that the Bills need playmakers - they get one of the biggest playmakers in the draft and people complain it's not a WR or that it was in the wrong round. In one of his interviews he mentions his biggest strength is versatility - including receiving. Just because he wasn't used as a receiving back at FAU doesn't mean he can't do it. He also mentions that some teams had him line up with the receivers at the combine and he "caught them all" I think the Bills have had their eye on him for a long time to be their RB of the future, and think the Gore signing was possibly partly in anticipation of getting this player. The way Gore prepares and his approach to the game is legendary - what better situation than to bring in your dynamic RB of the future to learn under two future HOFers. Edited April 28, 2019 by stevewin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: He's a running back, one of the most devalued positions in the NFL. So I don't think it is uncommon to get very good running backs in the later rounds. While it's not uncommon, most of the top RBs in the league were higher picks. Devalued or not, there is still a necessity to have a good RB on the roster, if not multiple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 On nfl.com they say that Singletary has a highlight reel of big hits in pass protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 4/26/2019 at 10:09 PM, Teddy KGB said: I like a lot of this Reminds me of Thurman...not the fastest runner, but has great vision, patience, and a low center of gravity ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Only thing I don't like is he is supposedly not much of a receiving threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Insanely quick is better than really fast. For a running back. This. It is pretty rare that RBs are breaking 50+ yard TDs these days. It is far more important to consistently pick up 5 yards than it is to have breakaway speed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Only thing I don't like is he is supposedly not much of a receiving threat. It sounds like he is perfectly capable of being one, they just didn’t use him as such last year at FAU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Just now, SCBills said: It sounds like he is perfectly capable of being one, they just didn’t use him as such last year at FAU. Hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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