RD 3, Pick 74: RB Devin Singletary, Florida Atlantic

[akm0404]

There are a bunch of different kinds of speed - the 40 measures only straight line top end raw speed.  Which is super important and I think in pretty much every case, the faster the better.  But, it isn't the whole story as running backs rarely get a 40 yard lane to accelerate through.  Acceleration in particular is the trait that most people think of when they watch "fast" players on the field.  

 

Kareem Hunt is an oft-cited example - he ran about the same 40 time as Singletary and I don't know many people who wouldn't call hunt "fast" - he broke plenty of long touchdowns.  Their 20 yard short shuttle and 3-cone times were also fairly similar.  

 

Not to say that Singletary's measurables will translate to the field in the exact same way, but why not cross our fingers and hope for the best.

 

I said before, if Singletary ran 2 blinks faster, he'd have been a top 10 pick.

1 minute ago, DrinkinBuddy said:

I love the bills draft for the most part. The 1st 2 picks were a dream scenario. I'm struggling a bit with the two 3rd rounders.

 

I think we're in an era where combine numbers dominant discussion. Singletary's #s are lackluster but what don't they don't capture is his elite vision. Shady and Faulk had rare vision where they saw the entire field and used to maximize their yards. Obviously much debate in this 28 page thread about this.

 

So say we went another route with our 1st 3rd rounder and didn't move up for Knox. What ifs don't really matter except for discussion purposes on a message board. 

 

What if our picks shook out like so:

 

3.11: Winovich - EDGE

4.10: Bryce Love - RB

4.35: Moreau -  TE

 

Would the masses prefer this outcome to Singletary/Knox?

 

That scenario certainly benefits from the hindsight of now knowing exactly where everyone else was picked (a luxury that GMs don't have while the draft is in progress), but I think the masses would have generally been in favor of that as well.

 

Definitely would be taking a considerably worse TE prospect (imo), and taking a RB that almost certainly won't play in 2019 due to lingering issues with his surgically repaired knee.  Winovich seems like a solid edge prospect that was worthy of selection.

[billybob71]

3 minutes ago, akm0404 said:

There are a bunch of different kinds of speed - the 40 measures only straight line top end raw speed.  Which is super important and I think in pretty much every case, the faster the better.  But, it isn't the whole story as running backs rarely get a 40 yard lane to accelerate through.  Acceleration in particular is the trait that most people think of when they watch "fast" players on the field.  

 

Kareem Hunt is an oft-cited example - he ran about the same 40 time as Singletary and I don't know many people who wouldn't call hunt "fast" - he broke plenty of long touchdowns.  Their 20 yard short shuttle and 3-cone times were also fairly similar.  

 

Not to say that Singletary's measurables will translate to the field in the exact same way, but why not cross our fingers and hope for the best.

 

I said before, if Singletary ran 2 blinks faster, he'd have been a top 10 pick.

and hopefully he treats his woman better too

[Last Guy on the Bench]

Been watching a lot of this kid and getting really excited. Three things I love:

 

1) He has this awesome Aikido way of breaking tackles. He regularly sort of goes in the direction of the force of the tackle. He lets the defender push him, or spin him, or knock him back. The defender is expecting resistance, and he doesn't get it on the vector he was expecting, and all of a sudden he is off balance, stumbling, grabbing at a sleeve or an ankle, and Singletary hits the jets and is out of his grasp. I keep seeing this and it's fascinating. Maybe other RBs do this too? I've never really noticed it. Once in a while Singletary will just pop someone, but mostly he absorbs the hit and lets it redirect him. He's so quick he adjusts to the new angle way faster than the defender can. The funniest is when a defender hits him square from the front and Singletary moves backward a step or two and the defender falls on his knees or even face.

 

2) Has a great feel for when to run around in the backfield looking for an escape, trying to reverse fields (he doesn't do this all that often, but when he does, it often works) and when to just slice through the muck for a few yards. He seems very decisive about which of these two options to pursue when he's bottled up, and usually seems to get it right.

 

3) After every TD he just tosses the ball immediately to the nearest ref. Classic Marv Levy "Act like you've been there before."

 

Love this kid. Can't wait to see him in action with the big boys. 

Edited April 29, 2019 by Last Guy on the Bench

[Toesy]

Good points-the guy doesn't get leveled by hard hits because he doesn't drop his head down to take them on-like you noticed, he lets the hit move him and if the guy hasn't totally wrapped him up instantly he is loose again. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

57 minutes ago, akm0404 said:

Not disagreeing with your overall sentiment, but we're talking 1/10ths of seconds, not 1/1000ths.

 

I think the splits are the important part - I tried to look it up but i couldn't find these posted anywhere.  If his first 10 split is solid to good - that's the most important aspect to a RB of his style.  Stopping on a dime and getting going quickly.

[Kelly the Dog]

45 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

i think that 1/10th of a second may be more important when assessing a wr running deep routes but significantly less important when talking rb

And he has a great 20 yard time, which is far more important than 40 for a RB.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

24 minutes ago, Last Guy on the Bench said:

Been watching a lot of this kid and getting really excited. Three things I love:

 

1) He has this awesome Aikido way of breaking tackles. He regularly sort of goes in the direction of the force of the tackle. He lets the defender push him, or spin him, or knock him back. The defender is expecting resistance, and he doesn't get it on the vector he was expecting, and all of a sudden he is off balance, stumbling, grabbing at a sleeve or an ankle, and Singletary hits the jets and is out of his grasp. I keep seeing this and it's fascinating. Maybe other RBs do this too? I've never really noticed it. Once in a while Singletary will just pop someone, but mostly he absorbs the hit and lets it redirect him. He's so quick he adjusts to the new angle way faster than the defender can. The funniest is when a defender hits him square from the front and Singletary moves backward a step or two and the defender falls on his knees or even face.

 

2) Has a great feel for when to run around in the backfield looking for an escape, trying to reverse fields (he doesn't do this all that often, but when he does, it often works) and when to just slice through the muck for a few yards. He seems very decisive about which of these two options to pursue when he's bottled up, and usually seems to get it right.

 

3) After every TD he just tosses the ball immediately to the nearest ref. Classic Marv Levy "Act like you've been there before."

 

Love this kid. Can't wait to see him in action with the big boys. 

 

Yeah - he breaks tackles in a very interesting way.  

5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

And he has a great 20 yard time, which is far more important than 40 for a RB.

 

I think it was puzzling to people when they looked at his combine numbers.  He was average to poor across the board in conventional combine activities - so its hard to get excited i guess?  

Edited April 29, 2019 by dneveu

[billybob71]

And we all know its kinda silly trying to predict a players NFL career based on combine numbers or highlight reels. So many factors determine a players future. Work ethic ,preparation, how they treat their lady or kids and teammates, practice habits, mental fortitude, how they handle success and becoming a millionaire etc etc. etc. Maybe if we as fans could meet these prospects and spend time with them and interview their coaches friends and family lol but we  are entitled to our "takes" and we only have what games we can watch, stats, and combine numbers to go on. But surely we all see the futility in trying to say a player is gonna be a success or failure immediately after their drafted. Here's to hoping the Bills are getting more picks right then wrong so we can all enjoy future winning seasons.

[nucci]

When drafted Thurman was considered not fast and his receiving skills were lacking

[ctk232]

On 4/26/2019 at 7:07 PM, Juror#8 said:

Interesting pick. Definitely old at rb. But figured there was still rb value later in the draft. Was hoping for wr at 74. And the dude is small and not that fast per metrics. Apparently super durable and good vision though based on the brief scouting I’ve just read so I guess there’s that ...

I think at least a few of us were surprised by the pick in the third given the WR options available, and remaining TEs as well. I'm not going to lament picking a player I admittedly know very little about, but for that simple reason alone, I was curious why we didn't feel that any of the other offensive skill position picks still on the board weren't worth the third over Singletary - or even remaining Defensive talent fwiw.

 

The biggest reason being, despite the many supporters on this board, I honestly didn't and still don't believe we needed to add to the RB stable this year. While Shady and Gore aren't getting any younger, I'm not sure what Singletary might add for this year specifically and beyond that another third round pick couldn't also add more of at another position. Time will tell and I'm excited for young guys on the team, but I hope this guy out plays the flags concerning him at the RB position in the NFL. 

Edited April 29, 2019 by ctk232

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Watch him be a fan favorite like almost immediately

[akm0404]

1 minute ago, ctk232 said:

I honestly didn't and still don't believe we needed to add to the RB stable this year. While Shady and Gore aren't getting any younger, I'm not sure what Singletary might add for this year specifically and beyond that another third round pick could at another position.

 

I think that sometimes it is a good idea to build your roster with an eye to the future, and not always make reactionary picks as holes develop (the "whack a mole" approach).

[ctk232]

16 minutes ago, akm0404 said:

 

I think that sometimes it is a good idea to build your roster with an eye to the future, and not always make reactionary picks as holes develop (the "whack a mole" approach).

For sure, but I'm not saying we should have addressed a hole here necessarily, just that there were players at other positions arguably of greater value, not just for their fit within the team but simply as a player at their position. You can plan for the future in next year's draft as well; I'm not sure what drafting an RB this year instead of next really does for us here. 

 

I'm not down on this kid before he even has a chance to prove himself, and I hope I'm wrong - but what exactly does he bring at the third round pick value that another guy can't in next year's draft, that we couldn't have used this year's pick on someone else potentially of greater value? Beane had his board set and was high enough on this guy, but I wonder what else we may have been able to do here particularly at TE and on the defensive side of the ball with edge rush or secondary depth. 

 

 

Edited April 29, 2019 by ctk232

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, Last Guy on the Bench said:

Been watching a lot of this kid and getting really excited. Three things I love:

 

1) He has this awesome Aikido way of breaking tackles. He regularly sort of goes in the direction of the force of the tackle. He lets the defender push him, or spin him, or knock him back. The defender is expecting resistance, and he doesn't get it on the vector he was expecting, and all of a sudden he is off balance, stumbling, grabbing at a sleeve or an ankle, and Singletary hits the jets and is out of his grasp. I keep seeing this and it's fascinating. Maybe other RBs do this too? I've never really noticed it. Once in a while Singletary will just pop someone, but mostly he absorbs the hit and lets it redirect him. He's so quick he adjusts to the new angle way faster than the defender can. The funniest is when a defender hits him square from the front and Singletary moves backward a step or two and the defender falls on his knees or even face.

 

2) Has a great feel for when to run around in the backfield looking for an escape, trying to reverse fields (he doesn't do this all that often, but when he does, it often works) and when to just slice through the muck for a few yards. He seems very decisive about which of these two options to pursue when he's bottled up, and usually seems to get it right.

 

3) After every TD he just tosses the ball immediately to the nearest ref. Classic Marv Levy "Act like you've been there before."

 

Love this kid. Can't wait to see him in action with the big boys. 

 

...three yards and a cloud of dust....

[Toesy]

Beane said he was going to draft for ability not need so he did it.

[WideNine]

36 minutes ago, nucci said:

When drafted Thurman was considered not fast and his receiving skills were lacking

 

I think Thurmal dropped because of concerns with the knee injury he had in college.

 

His combine numbers were not shabby at all I think and somewhat better than Singletary's in many categories (not knocking Singletary - just keeping it real). Thurman was considered a 1st round target for many prior to his fall to the 2nd round of the draft and kept Barry Sanders on the bench at Oklahoma.

 

4.47 - 40 yd

2.59 - 20 yd split

1.61 - 10 yd split

4.21 - 20 yd shuttle

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, DrinkinBuddy said:

I love the bills draft for the most part. The 1st 2 picks were a dream scenario. I'm struggling a bit with the two 3rd rounders.

 

I think we're in an era where combine numbers dominant discussion. Singletary's #s are lackluster but what don't they don't capture is his elite vision. Shady and Faulk had rare vision where they saw the entire field and used to maximize their yards. Obviously much debate in this 28 page thread about this.

 

So say we went another route with our 1st 3rd rounder and didn't move up for Knox. What ifs don't really matter except for discussion purposes on a message board. 

 

What if our picks shook out like so:

 

3.11: Winovich - EDGE

4.10: Bryce Love - RB

4.35: Moreau -  TE

 

Would the masses prefer this outcome to Singletary/Knox?

I’m going to say they probably would. Bills lack pass rushers, and Winovich flat gets after it. Liked him better than Gary. Hate that the Pats * got him, he definitely fits their profile. Drafting is all about projection, interesting to see how it all plays out. 

49 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Watch him be a fan favorite like almost immediately

He will likely get a lot of touches in preseason, so that will elevate him to legendary status with part of the fan base. 

[BillsFan1988]

3 hours ago, Cripple Creek said:

So, he will be an average NFL player, we reached, Beane was nervous and we lost the draft.  You may have just set the record for # of hot takes in less than 52 words.

 

One thing I have learned in my many years on this planet is "do not make pronouncements about things you are not expert in." Have an opinion, offer that opinion, but, don't make pronouncements because they have a tendency to make you look stupid if anyone cares to bring them up down the road.

I've been making proclamations for 20yrs I've been right @ least 70% of the time.  That's my opinion maybe I'm right maybe I'm wrong but Singletary will not live up to his 3rd rd grade . I'll even go one further fans on this board will be unhappy about this pk for quite some time and they'll be talking about players like Winovich and Sternberger amongst others of players we missed on.  

Edited April 29, 2019 by BillsFan1988

[Buddy Hix]

1 hour ago, DrinkinBuddy said:

I love the bills draft for the most part. The 1st 2 picks were a dream scenario. I'm struggling a bit with the two 3rd rounders.

 

I think we're in an era where combine numbers dominant discussion. Singletary's #s are lackluster but what don't they don't capture is his elite vision. Shady and Faulk had rare vision where they saw the entire field and used to maximize their yards. Obviously much debate in this 28 page thread about this.

 

So say we went another route with our 1st 3rd rounder and didn't move up for Knox. What ifs don't really matter except for discussion purposes on a message board. 

 

What if our picks shook out like so:

 

3.11: Winovich - EDGE

4.10: Bryce Love - RB

4.35: Moreau -  TE

 

Would the masses prefer this outcome to Singletary/Knox?

I really didn’t understand the Singletary, especially with Chase W on the board but I’m encouraged by what I am reading about Singletary.

 

I think our fan base would have been happy regardless of who was picked once we landed Oliver. Beane has a lot of support right got now amongst the fans. Here’s to hoping that we find success with this roster.?

[akm0404]

5 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said:

I've been making proclamations for 20yrs I've been right @ least 70% of the time.  That's my opinion maybe I'm right maybe I'm wrong but Singletary will not live up to his 3rd rd grade . I'll even go one further fans on this board will be unhappy about this pk for quite some time and they'll be talking about players like Winovich and Sternberger amongst others of players we missed on.  

 

lol

[Solomon Grundy]

On April 26, 2019 at 10:13 PM, NewEra said:

He’s fun.  Similar to shady.  Would’ve referred sternberger, Hakeem butler or Harmon, but I really like singletarys slillset 

I see a little Shady and a little Thurman Thomas. Thurman was shifty at the line, squeezed through the little holes and wasn't the fastest but effective with his speed.

[Toesy]

Nowhere has Beane said that Singletary is a gadget player, or somebody to sit on the bench, or somebody maybe useful next year or 20 years from now-all Beane said was he was going to draft the Best Player. RBs do not improve-they are either able to do it as rookies or they will never be able to do it.

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, the skycap said:

I see a little Shady and a little Thurman Thomas. Thurman was shifty at the line, squeezed through the little holes and wasn't the fastest but effective with his speed.

For sure.  Just effective at moving the chains.  Love to see those TD numbers too.  It’s all about getting in the endzone.  Some guys excel at it.  Some are born to cross the goal line.  He was always listed at 5’9 203+.  He measured at the combine at 5’7 which I love.  I really don’t see how height matters as a RB.  I’d much rather have our guy be small, stocky and elusive. He’s similar in stature to Barry.  Similar in skill set to Barry.  Just nowhere near as fast as Barry.  I think we’re going to love this kid

[TheBrownBear]

Travis Henry with better elusiveness?  That's what I'm seeing.

[Chuck Wagon]

I still think this is a very hard pick to justify with Winovich and Ferguson on the board and the state of the DEs on our roster.

[Boatdrinks]

5 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

I still think this is a very hard pick to justify with Winovich and Ferguson on the board and the state of the DEs on our roster.

It’s the old maxim about drafting for need. Singletary was probably RB1 on some boards, though not necessarily Buffalo’s.Wasnt a need like DE/ Edge . Seems like they followed the near mythical BPA strategy. 

[John from Riverside]

15 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Travis Henry with better elusiveness?  That's what I'm seeing.

I am actually not seeing that....Travis Henry was a "bowling ball with knives rolling down hill"

 

This guy is a different cat......and I dont mean that in a bad way....but different

 

 

[Chuck Wagon]

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

It’s the old maxim about drafting for need. Singletary was probably RB1 on some boards, though not necessarily Buffalo’s.Wasnt a need like DE/ Edge . Seems like they followed the near mythical BPA strategy. 

 

 

Well, IMO Winovich / Ferguson were BPA and also a need.

 

But I know the Bills have been linked to Singletary throughout the process.

[WideNine]

8 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Travis Henry with better elusiveness?  That's what I'm seeing.

 

Maybe sans the whole 11 kids by 10 different mothers thing. Travis had that run-you-over at the line thing going on, but Singletary really reminds me a bit of Thurman Thomas in those quick few lateral skip steps he has that make the first man miss - then a decisive burst forward (not dancing back there). Has a little Shady in how he uses slight shoulder fakes and hesitation to create or widen the creases to get through as well.

 

He looks like a kid that is good at avoiding the few defenders that may come free on a run blitz and not get stopped in the backfield. 

 

 

 

[Cripple Creek]

51 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said:

I've been making proclamations for 20yrs I've been right @ least 70% of the time.  That's my opinion maybe I'm right maybe I'm wrong but Singletary will not live up to his 3rd rd grade . I'll even go one further fans on this board will be unhappy about this pk for quite some time and they'll be talking about players like Winovich and Sternberger amongst others of players we missed on.  

Congratulations, not that I believe a word of it, but congratulations.

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, Chuck Wagon said:

 

 

Well, IMO Winovich / Ferguson were BPA and also a need.

 

But I know the Bills have been linked to Singletary throughout the process.

That’s always the unknown: who is where on the Bills board ?  I acknowledged that RB wasn’t a need like DE/ Edge was in my post, so I agree this was not a need pick. Note : just heard interview w Beane where he said Singletary was the top RB on their board. He also said there was a closely ranked player available at another position that they considered at 3, but went with Singletary. Didn’t say what that position was though, but there you go. 

[Rocket94]

6 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

That’s always the unknown: who is where on the Bills board ?  I acknowledged that RB wasn’t a need like DE/ Edge was in my post, so I agree this was not a need pick. Note : just heard interview w Beane where he said Singletary was the top RB on their board. He also said there was a closely ranked player available at another position that they considered at 3, but went with Singletary. Didn’t say what that position was though, but there you go. 

Ferguson and Winovich were there. Obviously the Bills did not view them as highly as the pundits and talking heads. Though, I do believe that Winovich will be the consummate, over achieving Patriot. As defensive minded as I am, Singletary seems like a good choice.

Edited April 29, 2019 by Rocket94

[John from Riverside]

I think Beane is being honest when he said that he stayed true to his board........yes there were other players...they felt that Singletary was the best talent on the board at that time.

 

I mean....obviously time will tell but you can really see the writing on the wall with this one....our starting RB is OLD.....his backup is OLD.....we have a guy that is primarily a special teamer and we have Yeldon the pass catcher.

 

They went with the guy they thought was the most talented....his TD production is crazy....his touches load says he might not be a gadget back.....

 

Who is to say Winovich (sp) is any better then Shaq Lawson?

[NewEra]

43 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Travis Henry with better elusiveness?  That's what I'm seeing.

Stiff arm isn’t even close.  It was Henry’s go too move by far

15 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I think Beane is being honest when he said that he stayed true to his board........yes there were other players...they felt that Singletary was the best talent on the board at that time.

 

I mean....obviously time will tell but you can really see the writing on the wall with this one....our starting RB is OLD.....his backup is OLD.....we have a guy that is primarily a special teamer and we have Yeldon the pass catcher.

 

They went with the guy they thought was the most talented....his TD production is crazy....his touches load says he might not be a gadget back.....

 

Who is to say Winovich (sp) is any better then Shaq Lawson?

Everyone that’s hates the Singletary pick.  

[John from Riverside]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Stiff arm isn’t even close.  It was Henry’s go too move by far

Everyone that’s hates the Singletary pick.  

Hating on the Singletary pick makes no sense to me......RB was obviously a need and you could make a case this was the best RB in this class.   In the 3rd round

[Magox]

17 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

 

 

They went with the guy they thought was the most talented....his TD production is crazy....his touches load says he might not be a gadget back.....

 

 

 

There is very little evidence that shows that he is a gadget back.   He's a compact 205 pound running back at 5'8, he carries the rock like a superstar workhorse, and has done most of his running in-between-the-tackles.   He not only makes defenders whiff on their tackles which he was second in the nation at doing, but he breaks tons of tackles where he led the nation in yards after contact.     Take a look at this video of this run of his and give me your opinion if this has the look of a gadget back?

 

 

Quote

 

A First Round Prototype: Devin Singletary, FAU

The “Motor” man just doesn’t stop, running hard between the tackles or on the edge. In addition to his power running style, Singletary shows exceptional change of direction capability and gains a tremendous amount of yardage after contact. He breaks a ton of tackles and compiles more yards after contact than any other runner in this year’s class. In addition, Singletary possesses a stout, thick build, along with good vision and patience, which allows him to let his blocks to develop. He can cut on a dime and makes use of a powerful stiff arm. Even more impressive is how hard it is to bring him down in the open field. Playing in Conference USA does dim his accomplishments somewhat but he’s viewed as a prime-time back in this year’s crop and is widely regarded as the best player in FAU history.

 

 

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Hating on the Singletary pick makes no sense to me......RB was obviously a need and you could make a case this was the best RB in this class.   In the 3rd round

 

Seems like a bunch lead the DK Metcalf cult.  Aka the people that think our WRs suck.  Others would include the sack masters.  Aka, the guys that think we only have one DE, Jerry Hughes.  

 

Im not in either group, but I see why they feel that way.  More so that we can use another pass rusher.  We do, but I think we will add another via FA.  

 

I can see why people this our WRs are lacking.  We signed 2 midgets (and midgets get hurt) and we lack any big targets other than Duke Williams.  Zay has some size, but hasn’t been using it effectively.  A WR with size mad sense.  

 

While i I wasn’t a fan of this rb class other than Jacobs, Singletary, Montgomery and Darrel Henderson, I’m glad we chose Devin.  He really is so much fun to watch.  I hope he can hold up after his college usage 

[John from Riverside]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

Seems like a bunch lead the DK Metcalf cult.  Aka the people that think our WRs suck.  Others would include the sack masters.  Aka, the guys that think we only have one DE, Jerry Hughes.  

 

Im not in either group, but I see why they feel that way.  More so that we can use another pass rusher.  We do, but I think we will add another via FA.  

 

I can see why people this our WRs are lacking.  We signed 2 midgets (and midgets get hurt) and we lack any big targets other than Duke Williams.  Zay has some size, but hasn’t been using it effectively.  A WR with size mad sense.  

 

While i I wasn’t a fan of this rb class other than Jacobs, Singletary, Montgomery and Darrel Henderson, I’m glad we chose Devin.  He really is so much fun to watch.  I hope he can hold up after his college usage 

To me this all about Josh Allen.....who appears to be doing ok with these "Smurfs"

At the end of last season I felt we had found a real gem in Foster.......then we turned around and brought in 2 veteran WR's that start on any team (thats 3 wide outs)

 

A huge difference from last year's group.  Beane did exactly what he said he was going to do he got Josh Allen help.   The WR's we took later are total lottery tickets but we seam to do well with those especially UDFA's.......Sills was a good get.

 

Folks need to think big picture.   THIS IS A VERY GOOD DEFENSE......we added to it with Oliver....we added depth to it.....we improved our offense and we payed special attn to our offensive line.

 

A huge off season

[NewEra]

 

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

To me this all about Josh Allen.....who appears to be doing ok with these "Smurfs"

At the end of last season I felt we had found a real gem in Foster.......then we turned around and brought in 2 veteran WR's that start on any team (thats 3 wide outs)

 

A huge difference from last year's group.  Beane did exactly what he said he was going to do he got Josh Allen help.   The WR's we took later are total lottery tickets but we seam to do well with those especially UDFA's.......Sills was a good get.

 

Folks need to think big picture.   THIS IS A VERY GOOD DEFENSE......we added to it with Oliver....we added depth to it.....we improved our offense and we payed special attn to our offensive line.

 

A huge off season

I agree on all fronts, but I do think we need to add another pass rusher for when Trent takes his turn on the mat on the first day of training camp.

[John from Riverside]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

I agree on all fronts, but I do think we need to add another pass rusher for when Trent takes his turn on the mat on the first day of training camp.

Sure is nice to still have 30 million dollars in cap room with the vet cut after the draft to come....:)